Biden Admin to Remove Statue of William Penn from Philadelphia Park

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Anonymous wrote:It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care. God bless what America use to be😢

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.

Removing Penn's statue is simply silly. It is WOKE going too far. Certainly, we can add statues of others, but Penn's removal is bizarre.

Where did it say it was being removed for “woke” reasons?? From the NPS not some random DCUM poster making that claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care. God bless what America use to be😢

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.

The Park Service original plans called for erasing everything about William Penn. His statue. The model of the Slate Roof House (his home), his timeline, and info about the Welcome (his ship he and the Quakers came over on.) The park is even named after his ship. ESSENTIALLY, HISTORY WAS BEING ERASED WHEN YOU REMOVE ALL TRACES OF WILLIAM PENN from the site of his first home.

The park was going to be changed to a celebration of Native Americans.

Wasn’t the plaza (not a park) originally land donated to commemorate Native Americans?

His estate is elsewhere.

Americans are not conservationists by native. That’s why Franklin’s home was torn down. Because Americans like development. It’s a capitalist thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care. God bless what America use to be😢

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.

Removing Penn's statue is simply silly. It is WOKE going too far. Certainly, we can add statues of others, but Penn's removal is bizarre.

Where did it say it was being removed for “woke” reasons?? From the NPS not some random DCUM poster making that claim.

DP. This is directly from the NPS website:

PHILADELPHIA — The National Park Service proposes to rehabilitate Welcome Park to provide a more welcoming, accurate, and inclusive experience for visitors.
https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-seeks-input-on-the-rehabilitation-of-welcome-park.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Statue is now staying.

https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-withdraws-review-of-welcome-park-rehabilitation-proposal.htm

I guess there was a lot of kick back about cancelling William Penn.

You bet there was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Statue is now staying.

https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-withdraws-review-of-welcome-park-rehabilitation-proposal.htm

I guess there was a lot of kick back about cancelling William Penn.

Gosh so many people suddenly fans of a pacifist they’d never heard of before and a work of art they’d ignore if they were walking by it. Lol.

[Anonymous]

And for all you LWNJs screeching that the statue should have been removed, the Dem. Gov. disagrees entirely with you:

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D) celebrated the news on X, formerly Twitter, writing that the park “will remain the rightful home of this William Penn statue — right here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Penn founded.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/william-penn-statue-to-stay-in-welcome-park-after-national-park-service-reversal/ar-AA1mFhie

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care. God bless what America use to be😢

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.

Removing Penn's statue is simply silly. It is WOKE going too far. Certainly, we can add statues of others, but Penn's removal is bizarre.

Where did it say it was being removed for “woke” reasons?? From the NPS not some random DCUM poster making that claim.

DP. This is directly from the NPS website:

PHILADELPHIA — The National Park Service proposes to rehabilitate Welcome Park to provide a more welcoming, accurate, and inclusive experience for visitors.
https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-seeks-input-on-the-rehabilitation-of-welcome-park.htm

Sounds nice. Are we not fans of welcoming, accuracy, and inclusivity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Statue is now staying.

https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-withdraws-review-of-welcome-park-rehabilitation-proposal.htm

I guess there was a lot of kick back about cancelling William Penn.

Gosh so many people suddenly fans of a pacifist they’d never heard of before and a work of art they’d ignore if they were walking by it. Lol.

You must be disappointed no one was buying your idiotic nonsense about Penn being a "traitor."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care. God bless what America use to be😢

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.

Removing Penn's statue is simply silly. It is WOKE going too far. Certainly, we can add statues of others, but Penn's removal is bizarre.

Where did it say it was being removed for “woke” reasons?? From the NPS not some random DCUM poster making that claim.

DP. This is directly from the NPS website:

PHILADELPHIA — The National Park Service proposes to rehabilitate Welcome Park to provide a more welcoming, accurate, and inclusive experience for visitors.
https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-seeks-input-on-the-rehabilitation-of-welcome-park.htm

Sounds nice. Are we not fans of welcoming, accuracy, and inclusivity?

Definitely. But without a side order of cancellation - for absolutely no reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Statue is now staying.

https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-withdraws-review-of-welcome-park-rehabilitation-proposal.htm

I guess there was a lot of kick back about cancelling William Penn.

You bet there was.

If a Republican admin trying to develop the site for say the president’s hotel company had proposed to redo the plaza and move the statue all the people crying about it now wouldn’t have blinked an eye. You can take that to the bank.

I mean Trump literally tore down one of the great architectural gems of Manhattan, a building replete with history, and I have never heard a Republican bemoan that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care. God bless what America use to be😢

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.

Removing Penn's statue is simply silly. It is WOKE going too far. Certainly, we can add statues of others, but Penn's removal is bizarre.

Where did it say it was being removed for “woke” reasons?? From the NPS not some random DCUM poster making that claim.

DP. This is directly from the NPS website:

PHILADELPHIA — The National Park Service proposes to rehabilitate Welcome Park to provide a more welcoming, accurate, and inclusive experience for visitors.
https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-seeks-input-on-the-rehabilitation-of-welcome-park.htm

Sounds nice. Are we not fans of welcoming, accuracy, and inclusivity?

Definitely. But without a side order of cancellation - for absolutely no reason.

What cancellation? What does that even mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Statue is now staying.

https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-withdraws-review-of-welcome-park-rehabilitation-proposal.htm

I guess there was a lot of kick back about cancelling William Penn.

Gosh so many people suddenly fans of a pacifist they’d never heard of before and a work of art they’d ignore if they were walking by it. Lol.

You must be disappointed no one was buying your idiotic nonsense about Penn being a "traitor."

Who are you talking to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Statue is now staying.

https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-withdraws-review-of-welcome-park-rehabilitation-proposal.htm

I guess there was a lot of kick back about cancelling William Penn.

Gosh so many people suddenly fans of a pacifist they’d never heard of before and a work of art they’d ignore if they were walking by it. Lol.

You must be disappointed no one was buying your idiotic nonsense about Penn being a "traitor."

On the contrary I love hearing MAGA folk wax poetic about a pacifist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Penn

Wasn’t Penn a Quaker who lived peacefully with native Americans? And quakers were antislavery. In fact, Pennsylvania was a haven for freed slaves thanks to the Underground Railroad essentially run by quakers.

The group of Quakers that came to Pennsylvania sponsored by William Penn wrote the first anti slavery tract in the Americas.

This was written in 1688 in Germantown (a part of Philly.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1688_Germantown_Quaker_Petition_Against_Slavery

The Quakers were the woke and progressives of the 17th century! It’s true, you can’t deny it!

WP’s huge blindspot regarding slavery notwithstanding, of course.

[Anonymous]