Still another pit bull attack

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday, Mar 5 - a Delaware man is put in the ICU by three of his neighbor’s pit bulls. https://www.wboc.com/news/violent-dog-attack-in-sussex-county-ended-with-a-dead-dog-and-one-man-in/article_0a8d054c-dc13-11ee-aa26-6332070f5f29.html?fbclid=IwAR2mToR4epIkmOMpIOIenDMMNcyayE2BN0pyAYiX38sLlazN-bxCndR_X6I



Why are you blaming the dogs when it is clearly the owner's fault?

There are bad poodle owners, too. They don’t put people into the ICU. Ergo: pit bulls are bad dogs.


It is the owners not the dog


As a foster who has had many pits, I disagree. But if it IS the owners, why y'all so effing shitty as a group? The most abusive, the most likely to to gross stuff like crop ears in the backyard, by FAR the least likely to spay/neuter (that's a fact. 80% of all dogs in the US are fixed, only 20% of Pits and their mixes). Very few in training kind of hated by pro dog trainers. I guess it's fair when I see you and your pit in the street to assume you're an animal abuser. That's cool.


I can only control what I do. My dog is neutered. My dog is trained and taken care of phtsically snd emotionally. Are you saying I am responsible for every pit bull owner?

Pit bulls attract tough guys...gang members who get the dogs and abuse them. They are the ones responsible. Why are you assuming that I am one of them?

If a lab attacked would you say it is the breed? Or say it was the owner's fault?

Surely you don’t believe that all of the many, many maulings posted here were perpetrated by dogs who were abused by tough guy gang members?


The vast majority yrs. Maybe they don't have to be gang members but people who only get the dogs to improve their tough guy image. If they live outside and aren't treated like a member of the family. Or thise with many dogs like the guy in LA where one attacks and the other join in

Vast majority? I don’t think so.


You "believe" but, yet offer no facts. But don't just take my word for it

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/


So you cite to ridiculous pro-pit propaganda, just laughable.

Except it’s no laughing matter.

Go to dogsbite.org for the unvarnished truth about pitbull attacks.

Most pit bull attacks happen to owners, family members, visiting friends, dog sitters, neighbors, and strangers who happen to be walking where somebody’s pit bull got loose.

There are countless stories of regular Joes and Janes who raised their pit bulls with love, never neglected or abused them, trained them well and then were horrified to see them kill a family member or friend.

It’s about the deep seated, thousands of generations of breeding in certain behaviors (attack without warning, hair trigger, bite and hold at all cost and in the face of extreme pain) which cannot be bred out in a few generations because suddenly there is a host of people foolish enough to think pit bulls are sweet babies, nanny dogs and all the other BS propaganda about these potentially lethal dogs.



Wrong. That organization if very against pit bulls and they cannot be trusted.

Because pitbulls kill so many people.


We kill more pit bulls than they kill us. Humans kill about one million a year. Humans also kill more humans and yet pit bulls are sern as the enemy

I can’t tell if this post is serious or not.


What would make the post "not serious"? Humans do kill more dogs than dogs kill humans. Humans are causing more harm to the planet. And humans kill more humans with guns, knives, wars. Humans cause dogs to be violent by mistreating them and yet you blame the dog. Why is that? Pit bulls are the most mistreated dogs and yet we don't expect any ramifications for how we treat them.

You’re not making a cogent argument. A million pit bulls are euthanized per year because there’s rampant overbreeding. Are you arguing that because humans euthanize pit bulls, we deserve to suffer horrific maulings every so often? Humans are more dangerous than pit bulls, but that’s not a reason to continue to breed way more pit bulls than are wanted as pets.


There are innocent victims no doubt and those do not deserve to be attacked. You all are generally saying that it is the dog's genetics that determine that they will always be a menace and aggressive. And I am saying that the cause is the humans who are "raising the dogs" We should blame the humans and punish them who mistreat dogs so much that they attack. Thats' what I am saying.

No one is saying that humans are blameless. We’re saying that because pit bulls have been weaponized, they’re dangerous. You want to argue about who is to blame for their being dangerous. We can’t go back in time and change the history of pit bulls. All we can do is try to get their population under control now that they exist. How do we do that?


Here is what one shelter is doing:
https://www.maddiesfund.org/solving-the-pit-bull-problem.htm

That’s a great program to get existing pit bulls adopted, but it does absolutely nothing to curb the steady stream of excess pit bulls that are bred.


Obviously one has to enforce neutering and spaying

My question is how do we do that? Currently, there is no such enforcement. How can we incentivize spaying and neutering, specifically targeting pit bulls? (Although I’m in favor of spaying and neutering all dogs who don’t belong to registered breeders.)
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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday, Mar 5 - a Delaware man is put in the ICU by three of his neighbor’s pit bulls. https://www.wboc.com/news/violent-dog-attack-in-sussex-county-ended-with-a-dead-dog-and-one-man-in/article_0a8d054c-dc13-11ee-aa26-6332070f5f29.html?fbclid=IwAR2mToR4epIkmOMpIOIenDMMNcyayE2BN0pyAYiX38sLlazN-bxCndR_X6I



Why are you blaming the dogs when it is clearly the owner's fault?

There are bad poodle owners, too. They don’t put people into the ICU. Ergo: pit bulls are bad dogs.


It is the owners not the dog


As a foster who has had many pits, I disagree. But if it IS the owners, why y'all so effing shitty as a group? The most abusive, the most likely to to gross stuff like crop ears in the backyard, by FAR the least likely to spay/neuter (that's a fact. 80% of all dogs in the US are fixed, only 20% of Pits and their mixes). Very few in training kind of hated by pro dog trainers. I guess it's fair when I see you and your pit in the street to assume you're an animal abuser. That's cool.


I can only control what I do. My dog is neutered. My dog is trained and taken care of phtsically snd emotionally. Are you saying I am responsible for every pit bull owner?

Pit bulls attract tough guys...gang members who get the dogs and abuse them. They are the ones responsible. Why are you assuming that I am one of them?

If a lab attacked would you say it is the breed? Or say it was the owner's fault?

Surely you don’t believe that all of the many, many maulings posted here were perpetrated by dogs who were abused by tough guy gang members?


The vast majority yrs. Maybe they don't have to be gang members but people who only get the dogs to improve their tough guy image. If they live outside and aren't treated like a member of the family. Or thise with many dogs like the guy in LA where one attacks and the other join in

Vast majority? I don’t think so.


You "believe" but, yet offer no facts. But don't just take my word for it

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/


So you cite to ridiculous pro-pit propaganda, just laughable.

Except it’s no laughing matter.

Go to dogsbite.org for the unvarnished truth about pitbull attacks.

Most pit bull attacks happen to owners, family members, visiting friends, dog sitters, neighbors, and strangers who happen to be walking where somebody’s pit bull got loose.

There are countless stories of regular Joes and Janes who raised their pit bulls with love, never neglected or abused them, trained them well and then were horrified to see them kill a family member or friend.

It’s about the deep seated, thousands of generations of breeding in certain behaviors (attack without warning, hair trigger, bite and hold at all cost and in the face of extreme pain) which cannot be bred out in a few generations because suddenly there is a host of people foolish enough to think pit bulls are sweet babies, nanny dogs and all the other BS propaganda about these potentially lethal dogs.



Wrong. That organization if very against pit bulls and they cannot be trusted.

Because pitbulls kill so many people.


We kill more pit bulls than they kill us. Humans kill about one million a year. Humans also kill more humans and yet pit bulls are sern as the enemy

I can’t tell if this post is serious or not.


What would make the post "not serious"? Humans do kill more dogs than dogs kill humans. Humans are causing more harm to the planet. And humans kill more humans with guns, knives, wars. Humans cause dogs to be violent by mistreating them and yet you blame the dog. Why is that? Pit bulls are the most mistreated dogs and yet we don't expect any ramifications for how we treat them.

You’re not making a cogent argument. A million pit bulls are euthanized per year because there’s rampant overbreeding. Are you arguing that because humans euthanize pit bulls, we deserve to suffer horrific maulings every so often? Humans are more dangerous than pit bulls, but that’s not a reason to continue to breed way more pit bulls than are wanted as pets.


There are innocent victims no doubt and those do not deserve to be attacked. You all are generally saying that it is the dog's genetics that determine that they will always be a menace and aggressive. And I am saying that the cause is the humans who are "raising the dogs" We should blame the humans and punish them who mistreat dogs so much that they attack. Thats' what I am saying.

No one is saying that humans are blameless. We’re saying that because pit bulls have been weaponized, they’re dangerous. You want to argue about who is to blame for their being dangerous. We can’t go back in time and change the history of pit bulls. All we can do is try to get their population under control now that they exist. How do we do that?


Here is what one shelter is doing:
https://www.maddiesfund.org/solving-the-pit-bull-problem.htm

That’s a great program to get existing pit bulls adopted, but it does absolutely nothing to curb the steady stream of excess pit bulls that are bred.


Obviously one has to enforce neutering and spaying

My question is how do we do that? Currently, there is no such enforcement. How can we incentivize spaying and neutering, specifically targeting pit bulls? (Although I’m in favor of spaying and neutering all dogs who don’t belong to registered breeders.)


You have to hire people to follow up. But that isn't going to stop backyard breeders. Honestly there are people who believe that spaying and neutering are the worst things you can do to a dog. Even though the same people will dock their tails and ears.

I'm sure someone has a solution

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3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!
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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday, Mar 5 - a Delaware man is put in the ICU by three of his neighbor’s pit bulls. https://www.wboc.com/news/violent-dog-attack-in-sussex-county-ended-with-a-dead-dog-and-one-man-in/article_0a8d054c-dc13-11ee-aa26-6332070f5f29.html?fbclid=IwAR2mToR4epIkmOMpIOIenDMMNcyayE2BN0pyAYiX38sLlazN-bxCndR_X6I



Why are you blaming the dogs when it is clearly the owner's fault?

There are bad poodle owners, too. They don’t put people into the ICU. Ergo: pit bulls are bad dogs.


It is the owners not the dog


As a foster who has had many pits, I disagree. But if it IS the owners, why y'all so effing shitty as a group? The most abusive, the most likely to to gross stuff like crop ears in the backyard, by FAR the least likely to spay/neuter (that's a fact. 80% of all dogs in the US are fixed, only 20% of Pits and their mixes). Very few in training kind of hated by pro dog trainers. I guess it's fair when I see you and your pit in the street to assume you're an animal abuser. That's cool.


I can only control what I do. My dog is neutered. My dog is trained and taken care of phtsically snd emotionally. Are you saying I am responsible for every pit bull owner?

Pit bulls attract tough guys...gang members who get the dogs and abuse them. They are the ones responsible. Why are you assuming that I am one of them?

If a lab attacked would you say it is the breed? Or say it was the owner's fault?

Surely you don’t believe that all of the many, many maulings posted here were perpetrated by dogs who were abused by tough guy gang members?


The vast majority yrs. Maybe they don't have to be gang members but people who only get the dogs to improve their tough guy image. If they live outside and aren't treated like a member of the family. Or thise with many dogs like the guy in LA where one attacks and the other join in

Vast majority? I don’t think so.


You "believe" but, yet offer no facts. But don't just take my word for it

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/


So you cite to ridiculous pro-pit propaganda, just laughable.

Except it’s no laughing matter.

Go to dogsbite.org for the unvarnished truth about pitbull attacks.

Most pit bull attacks happen to owners, family members, visiting friends, dog sitters, neighbors, and strangers who happen to be walking where somebody’s pit bull got loose.

There are countless stories of regular Joes and Janes who raised their pit bulls with love, never neglected or abused them, trained them well and then were horrified to see them kill a family member or friend.

It’s about the deep seated, thousands of generations of breeding in certain behaviors (attack without warning, hair trigger, bite and hold at all cost and in the face of extreme pain) which cannot be bred out in a few generations because suddenly there is a host of people foolish enough to think pit bulls are sweet babies, nanny dogs and all the other BS propaganda about these potentially lethal dogs.



Wrong. That organization if very against pit bulls and they cannot be trusted.

Because pitbulls kill so many people.


We kill more pit bulls than they kill us. Humans kill about one million a year. Humans also kill more humans and yet pit bulls are sern as the enemy

I can’t tell if this post is serious or not.


What would make the post "not serious"? Humans do kill more dogs than dogs kill humans. Humans are causing more harm to the planet. And humans kill more humans with guns, knives, wars. Humans cause dogs to be violent by mistreating them and yet you blame the dog. Why is that? Pit bulls are the most mistreated dogs and yet we don't expect any ramifications for how we treat them.

You’re not making a cogent argument. A million pit bulls are euthanized per year because there’s rampant overbreeding. Are you arguing that because humans euthanize pit bulls, we deserve to suffer horrific maulings every so often? Humans are more dangerous than pit bulls, but that’s not a reason to continue to breed way more pit bulls than are wanted as pets.


There are innocent victims no doubt and those do not deserve to be attacked. You all are generally saying that it is the dog's genetics that determine that they will always be a menace and aggressive. And I am saying that the cause is the humans who are "raising the dogs" We should blame the humans and punish them who mistreat dogs so much that they attack. Thats' what I am saying.

No one is saying that humans are blameless. We’re saying that because pit bulls have been weaponized, they’re dangerous. You want to argue about who is to blame for their being dangerous. We can’t go back in time and change the history of pit bulls. All we can do is try to get their population under control now that they exist. How do we do that?


Here is what one shelter is doing:
https://www.maddiesfund.org/solving-the-pit-bull-problem.htm

That’s a great program to get existing pit bulls adopted, but it does absolutely nothing to curb the steady stream of excess pit bulls that are bred.


Obviously one has to enforce neutering and spaying

My question is how do we do that? Currently, there is no such enforcement. How can we incentivize spaying and neutering, specifically targeting pit bulls? (Although I’m in favor of spaying and neutering all dogs who don’t belong to registered breeders.)


I take issue with the notion that ALL dogs should be spayed and neutered which are not purebred dogs owned by registered breeders.

I’ve had dogs my whole life and the worst dog my family every owned was a purebred.

Every other dog I’ve had was some form of mutt/mixed breed, and they were much better temperamentally and enjoyed much better overall health.

I don’t want to live in a world with just purebred dogs, because mutts are doggy gold.

But definitely it would be good to reduce the over abundance of pit bulls and pit bull mixes with the classic stocky body, square head and massive jaw.

For the record, my current mixed breed dog who is the best of my lifetime was listed by the rescue as a border collie mix. She looks very much like a short coat border collie and acts a great deal like one. Turns out after I got her DNA tested a couple of years after she came to me, I learned she was 30% APBT and 27.5% border collie - a backyard breed called a ‘borderbull.’ She also has GSD, Labrador retriever, Rottweiler and treeing Walker coonhound in her grandparent bloodline - that makes up the other 42.5% of her DNA.

It would pain me greatly if this dog didn’t exist. I would want her over any purebred dog on offer.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.
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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday, Mar 5 - a Delaware man is put in the ICU by three of his neighbor’s pit bulls. https://www.wboc.com/news/violent-dog-attack-in-sussex-county-ended-with-a-dead-dog-and-one-man-in/article_0a8d054c-dc13-11ee-aa26-6332070f5f29.html?fbclid=IwAR2mToR4epIkmOMpIOIenDMMNcyayE2BN0pyAYiX38sLlazN-bxCndR_X6I



Why are you blaming the dogs when it is clearly the owner's fault?

There are bad poodle owners, too. They don’t put people into the ICU. Ergo: pit bulls are bad dogs.


It is the owners not the dog


As a foster who has had many pits, I disagree. But if it IS the owners, why y'all so effing shitty as a group? The most abusive, the most likely to to gross stuff like crop ears in the backyard, by FAR the least likely to spay/neuter (that's a fact. 80% of all dogs in the US are fixed, only 20% of Pits and their mixes). Very few in training kind of hated by pro dog trainers. I guess it's fair when I see you and your pit in the street to assume you're an animal abuser. That's cool.


I can only control what I do. My dog is neutered. My dog is trained and taken care of phtsically snd emotionally. Are you saying I am responsible for every pit bull owner?

Pit bulls attract tough guys...gang members who get the dogs and abuse them. They are the ones responsible. Why are you assuming that I am one of them?

If a lab attacked would you say it is the breed? Or say it was the owner's fault?

Surely you don’t believe that all of the many, many maulings posted here were perpetrated by dogs who were abused by tough guy gang members?


The vast majority yrs. Maybe they don't have to be gang members but people who only get the dogs to improve their tough guy image. If they live outside and aren't treated like a member of the family. Or thise with many dogs like the guy in LA where one attacks and the other join in

Vast majority? I don’t think so.


You "believe" but, yet offer no facts. But don't just take my word for it

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/


So you cite to ridiculous pro-pit propaganda, just laughable.

Except it’s no laughing matter.

Go to dogsbite.org for the unvarnished truth about pitbull attacks.

Most pit bull attacks happen to owners, family members, visiting friends, dog sitters, neighbors, and strangers who happen to be walking where somebody’s pit bull got loose.

There are countless stories of regular Joes and Janes who raised their pit bulls with love, never neglected or abused them, trained them well and then were horrified to see them kill a family member or friend.

It’s about the deep seated, thousands of generations of breeding in certain behaviors (attack without warning, hair trigger, bite and hold at all cost and in the face of extreme pain) which cannot be bred out in a few generations because suddenly there is a host of people foolish enough to think pit bulls are sweet babies, nanny dogs and all the other BS propaganda about these potentially lethal dogs.



Wrong. That organization if very against pit bulls and they cannot be trusted.

Because pitbulls kill so many people.


We kill more pit bulls than they kill us. Humans kill about one million a year. Humans also kill more humans and yet pit bulls are sern as the enemy

I can’t tell if this post is serious or not.


What would make the post "not serious"? Humans do kill more dogs than dogs kill humans. Humans are causing more harm to the planet. And humans kill more humans with guns, knives, wars. Humans cause dogs to be violent by mistreating them and yet you blame the dog. Why is that? Pit bulls are the most mistreated dogs and yet we don't expect any ramifications for how we treat them.

You’re not making a cogent argument. A million pit bulls are euthanized per year because there’s rampant overbreeding. Are you arguing that because humans euthanize pit bulls, we deserve to suffer horrific maulings every so often? Humans are more dangerous than pit bulls, but that’s not a reason to continue to breed way more pit bulls than are wanted as pets.


There are innocent victims no doubt and those do not deserve to be attacked. You all are generally saying that it is the dog's genetics that determine that they will always be a menace and aggressive. And I am saying that the cause is the humans who are "raising the dogs" We should blame the humans and punish them who mistreat dogs so much that they attack. Thats' what I am saying.

No one is saying that humans are blameless. We’re saying that because pit bulls have been weaponized, they’re dangerous. You want to argue about who is to blame for their being dangerous. We can’t go back in time and change the history of pit bulls. All we can do is try to get their population under control now that they exist. How do we do that?


Here is what one shelter is doing:
https://www.maddiesfund.org/solving-the-pit-bull-problem.htm

That’s a great program to get existing pit bulls adopted, but it does absolutely nothing to curb the steady stream of excess pit bulls that are bred.


Obviously one has to enforce neutering and spaying

My question is how do we do that? Currently, there is no such enforcement. How can we incentivize spaying and neutering, specifically targeting pit bulls? (Although I’m in favor of spaying and neutering all dogs who don’t belong to registered breeders.)


I take issue with the notion that ALL dogs should be spayed and neutered which are not purebred dogs owned by registered breeders.

I’ve had dogs my whole life and the worst dog my family every owned was a purebred.

Every other dog I’ve had was some form of mutt/mixed breed, and they were much better temperamentally and enjoyed much better overall health.

I don’t want to live in a world with just purebred dogs, because mutts are doggy gold.

But definitely it would be good to reduce the over abundance of pit bulls and pit bull mixes with the classic stocky body, square head and massive jaw.

For the record, my current mixed breed dog who is the best of my lifetime was listed by the rescue as a border collie mix. She looks very much like a short coat border collie and acts a great deal like one. Turns out after I got her DNA tested a couple of years after she came to me, I learned she was 30% APBT and 27.5% border collie - a backyard breed called a ‘borderbull.’ She also has GSD, Labrador retriever, Rottweiler and treeing Walker coonhound in her grandparent bloodline - that makes up the other 42.5% of her DNA.

It would pain me greatly if this dog didn’t exist. I would want her over any purebred dog on offer.


I don't think there will be a world where all the mutts are spayed or neutered. I would like to see less dogs in the shelters because we can't sustain this and good dogs are going to be euthanized. But there are people out there who think spaying and neutering is bad for the dogs or want to see their female dogs 'be a mama dog" at least once. And don't forget the dogs that people abandon and then they get pregnant.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.

Because pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other breeds, people who have or want to have children should be dissuaded from owning pit bulls, just as they should be dissuaded from having unsecured firearms in their homes.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.

You’re going to need to cite this claim, preferably with a photo of the dog in question. How many dead infants and children is it going to take for people like you to concede that there’s something inherently wrong with these dogs? That it’s not remotely excusable for a family dog to maul an infant, nor is it remotely excusable that you guys always find a way to make the maulings the fault of anything but the hell beast bred to kill.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.

Because pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other breeds, people who have or want to have children should be dissuaded from owning pit bulls, just as they should be dissuaded from having unsecured firearms in their homes.


And how do you propose to dissuade them?
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.

Because pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other breeds, people who have or want to have children should be dissuaded from owning pit bulls, just as they should be dissuaded from having unsecured firearms in their homes.


And how do you propose to dissuade them?


The shelter could refuse to let certain dogs go to people with children under 12. Problem is they could have a child after they adopt.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.

Because pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other breeds, people who have or want to have children should be dissuaded from owning pit bulls, just as they should be dissuaded from having unsecured firearms in their homes.


And how do you propose to dissuade them?

Shelters could tell the truth: that pit bulls were bred for violence, strong prey drive, tenacity, gameness and other assorted behaviors of violence. That you can’t rehab a biter. That whale eyes aren’t cute. That neuroses shouldn’t be ignored. That we shouldn’t teach people that they should ignore their ill ease around pit bulls.

Basically if shelters offer pit bulls, they should make the truth about these dogs clear: you can raise them well, lovingly, kindly and they still might snap, and that “snap” might not be a little nip such as one might get from a frustrated Bichon but a face-removing bite.
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Anonymous wrote:3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge

In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys?

But they’re nanny dogs!


Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either.

There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story.

Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed.


ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD.

Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear.

But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive.

Because pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other breeds, people who have or want to have children should be dissuaded from owning pit bulls, just as they should be dissuaded from having unsecured firearms in their homes.


And how do you propose to dissuade them?

Shelters could tell the truth: that pit bulls were bred for violence, strong prey drive, tenacity, gameness and other assorted behaviors of violence. That you can’t rehab a biter. That whale eyes aren’t cute. That neuroses shouldn’t be ignored. That we shouldn’t teach people that they should ignore their ill ease around pit bulls.

Basically if shelters offer pit bulls, they should make the truth about these dogs clear: you can raise them well, lovingly, kindly and they still might snap, and that “snap” might not be a little nip such as one might get from a frustrated Bichon but a face-removing bite.


PP you are still promoting the anti-pit lies...shame! All dogs have 'whale eyes' when fearful. Many dogs have high prey drive. Dog do give warnings but, humans don't read the signs. Of course, if a dog bites that doesn't mean they can't be rehabed.

Should everyone get a pit bull? Of course, not but, you can say the same for a German Shepherd or Chow or even Australian Shepherd. So tired of people like pp who continue promoting the myths of pit bulls!

https://www.newsweek.com/pit-bull-myths-facts-history-dogs-pets-1567290

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