
My question is how do we do that? Currently, there is no such enforcement. How can we incentivize spaying and neutering, specifically targeting pit bulls? (Although I’m in favor of spaying and neutering all dogs who don’t belong to registered breeders.) |
You have to hire people to follow up. But that isn't going to stop backyard breeders. Honestly there are people who believe that spaying and neutering are the worst things you can do to a dog. Even though the same people will dock their tails and ears. I'm sure someone has a solution |
3/9/24 Woodbridge, NJ Infant killed by family pit bull, mother also injured. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/infant-killed-family-dog-woodbridge
In the twisted logic of pit bull supporters, the family trained the dog to maul its infant to death. If it’s bad owners, right you guys? |
But they’re nanny dogs! |
I take issue with the notion that ALL dogs should be spayed and neutered which are not purebred dogs owned by registered breeders. I’ve had dogs my whole life and the worst dog my family every owned was a purebred. Every other dog I’ve had was some form of mutt/mixed breed, and they were much better temperamentally and enjoyed much better overall health. I don’t want to live in a world with just purebred dogs, because mutts are doggy gold. But definitely it would be good to reduce the over abundance of pit bulls and pit bull mixes with the classic stocky body, square head and massive jaw. For the record, my current mixed breed dog who is the best of my lifetime was listed by the rescue as a border collie mix. She looks very much like a short coat border collie and acts a great deal like one. Turns out after I got her DNA tested a couple of years after she came to me, I learned she was 30% APBT and 27.5% border collie - a backyard breed called a ‘borderbull.’ She also has GSD, Labrador retriever, Rottweiler and treeing Walker coonhound in her grandparent bloodline - that makes up the other 42.5% of her DNA. It would pain me greatly if this dog didn’t exist. I would want her over any purebred dog on offer. |
Any dog, even a chihuahua, can kill an infant. Any idiot who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve to be the caregiver of either. |
I don't think there will be a world where all the mutts are spayed or neutered. I would like to see less dogs in the shelters because we can't sustain this and good dogs are going to be euthanized. But there are people out there who think spaying and neutering is bad for the dogs or want to see their female dogs 'be a mama dog" at least once. And don't forget the dogs that people abandon and then they get pregnant. |
There it is. I was being facetious when I said the parents must have trained the dog to attack but you had to go for it and blame the parents when you don’t know the story. Any dog can kill, mostly pit bulls kill, and have chewed through dry wall, burst through windows and doors to get to prey and you want to blame anything but the breed. |
ANYTIME a child is mauled or killed by a dog, it’s the fault of an adult human- PERIOD. Of course pits are more dangerous, the statistics are clear. But ANY dog can bite and it takes very little to kill a human infant. Any ‘parent’ who leaves an infant in close proximity to a dog doesn’t deserve either. Babies mewl and cry like prey and even golden retrievers have mauled infants to death because of prey drive. |
Because pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other breeds, people who have or want to have children should be dissuaded from owning pit bulls, just as they should be dissuaded from having unsecured firearms in their homes. |
You’re going to need to cite this claim, preferably with a photo of the dog in question. How many dead infants and children is it going to take for people like you to concede that there’s something inherently wrong with these dogs? That it’s not remotely excusable for a family dog to maul an infant, nor is it remotely excusable that you guys always find a way to make the maulings the fault of anything but the hell beast bred to kill. |
And how do you propose to dissuade them? |
The shelter could refuse to let certain dogs go to people with children under 12. Problem is they could have a child after they adopt. |
Shelters could tell the truth: that pit bulls were bred for violence, strong prey drive, tenacity, gameness and other assorted behaviors of violence. That you can’t rehab a biter. That whale eyes aren’t cute. That neuroses shouldn’t be ignored. That we shouldn’t teach people that they should ignore their ill ease around pit bulls. Basically if shelters offer pit bulls, they should make the truth about these dogs clear: you can raise them well, lovingly, kindly and they still might snap, and that “snap” might not be a little nip such as one might get from a frustrated Bichon but a face-removing bite. |
PP you are still promoting the anti-pit lies...shame! All dogs have 'whale eyes' when fearful. Many dogs have high prey drive. Dog do give warnings but, humans don't read the signs. Of course, if a dog bites that doesn't mean they can't be rehabed. Should everyone get a pit bull? Of course, not but, you can say the same for a German Shepherd or Chow or even Australian Shepherd. So tired of people like pp who continue promoting the myths of pit bulls! https://www.newsweek.com/pit-bull-myths-facts-history-dogs-pets-1567290 |