NYT: Profound increase in black voters who support Trump

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC has taken black voters for granted. Kick democrats to the curb.

For who, exactly? It isn’t as if the other party has anything for them

The other party's policies on education, immigration, abortion and the economy are frankly better for AAs.

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Anonymous wrote:Haley was schooled in the south. You know how they teach the civil war, right?

It really is a sad statement on our country in 2023 that we still have a huge part of the citizenry denying that slavery was a major reason for the war.

I also find it laughable that DeSantis is calling her out, when his state has walked back the talk of slavery in history books.

This upcoming election really just might be my last straw with this idiocracy.

We do not have a "huge" part of our citizenry denying that slavery was the primary cause of The Civil War. That's similar to saying there is a huge portion of our citizenry that don't believe there was a Holocaust in WW2. You are watching too much cable news and/or assuming that a few loud mouth radical politicians are representing the beliefs of a majority of their electorate if you truly believe a significant percentage of the US population does not acknowledge slavery as the primary cause of The Civil War. There are bigoted idiots walking around among us but they aren't anywhere close to making up a huge portion of our population.

I would love to believe you, but I need to see some stats

The claim that The Civil War was a dispute over state's rights isn't factually incorrect. The states that eventually seceded did so based on their belief that individual states should be able to determine the legality of slavery within their state. This doesn't change the fact that slavery was the primary cause of the war between the states. The Union's victory allowed for the Federal legislation prohibiting slavery to become enforceable in all states by effectively overriding any individual states claim of slavery being a state's rights issue. The correct answer in stating the cause of The Civil War is a dispute between the Federal Government and individual states over whether or not each state should determine the legality of slavery within their state. A large majority of the people that claim the war was a state's rights dispute would acknowledge slavery as being the primary cause of certain states choosing to secede over that dispute.

These aren’t the stats on how many people in our country don’t believe that slavery was a major cause of the civil war

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haley was schooled in the south. You know how they teach the civil war, right?

It really is a sad statement on our country in 2023 that we still have a huge part of the citizenry denying that slavery was a major reason for the war.

I also find it laughable that DeSantis is calling her out, when his state has walked back the talk of slavery in history books.

This upcoming election really just might be my last straw with this idiocracy.

We do not have a "huge" part of our citizenry denying that slavery was the primary cause of The Civil War. That's similar to saying there is a huge portion of our citizenry that don't believe there was a Holocaust in WW2. You are watching too much cable news and/or assuming that a few loud mouth radical politicians are representing the beliefs of a majority of their electorate if you truly believe a significant percentage of the US population does not acknowledge slavery as the primary cause of The Civil War. There are bigoted idiots walking around among us but they aren't anywhere close to making up a huge portion of our population.

I would love to believe you, but I need to see some stats

The claim that The Civil War was a dispute over state's rights isn't factually incorrect. The states that eventually seceded did so based on their belief that individual states should be able to determine the legality of slavery within their state. This doesn't change the fact that slavery was the primary cause of the war between the states. The Union's victory allowed for the Federal legislation prohibiting slavery to become enforceable in all states by effectively overriding any individual states claim of slavery being a state's rights issue. The correct answer in stating the cause of The Civil War is a dispute between the Federal Government and individual states over whether or not each state should determine the legality of slavery within their state. A large majority of the people that claim the war was a state's rights dispute would acknowledge slavery as being the primary cause of certain states choosing to secede over that dispute.

So the correct answer is both slavery and state rights.

In any case Haley's answer was a joke. The average high-schooler would do better.

They are intertwined - it was states rights to continue with the institution of slavery. Not really one or the other.

And her answer was some weirdness about individual rights? Taking away your right to own another human being?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DNC has taken black voters for granted. Kick democrats to the curb.

For who, exactly? It isn’t as if the other party has anything for them

The other party's policies on education, immigration, abortion and the economy are frankly better for AAs.

Oh, this I’ve got to hear….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

Democrats have abandoned US workers.

The 1980s started an explosion of offshoring manufacturing to MX with the maquiladora program under Reagan. My dad's factory was impacted, and he got laid off.

I used to be a R, but this is what capitalism is about. You cannot want capitalism and control whether companies can offshore jobs. The R word (regulation) would be needed to prevent offshoring of jobs.

Also, you forget that it's the Dems that support a living minimum wage, not Rs.

You've been brainwashed. It was Clinton, Bill Clinton, who destroyed our manufacting sector via that NAFTA free trade deal with Mexico and his pushing the WTO to accept China.

Remember Perot? He was 100% right. And this happened well after Reagan.

Do better research. NAFTA was started by Reagan and negotiated by Bush 41. Clinton negotiated side deals on labor and environmental issues before sending it to Congress where 75% of Republicans and 40% of Democrats voted for it.

NAFTA was better than no NAFTA because trade with Mexico and Canada is better for the US than trade with Asia which was the most likely alternative. A huge part of NAFTA trade is related-party trade, shipments of supply chain parts and components between affiliates and subsidiaries of the same company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

Democrats have abandoned US workers.

The 1980s started an explosion of offshoring manufacturing to MX with the maquiladora program under Reagan. My dad's factory was impacted, and he got laid off.

I used to be a R, but this is what capitalism is about. You cannot want capitalism and control whether companies can offshore jobs. The R word (regulation) would be needed to prevent offshoring of jobs.

Also, you forget that it's the Dems that support a living minimum wage, not Rs.

You've been brainwashed. It was Clinton, Bill Clinton, who destroyed our manufacting sector via that NAFTA free trade deal with Mexico and his pushing the WTO to accept China.

Remember Perot? He was 100% right. And this happened well after Reagan.

Do better research. NAFTA was started by Reagan and negotiated by Bush 41. Clinton negotiated side deals on labor and environmental issues before sending it to Congress where 75% of Republicans and 40% of Democrats voted for it.

NAFTA was better than no NAFTA because trade with Mexico and Canada is better for the US than trade with Asia which was the most likely alternative. A huge part of NAFTA trade is related-party trade, shipments of supply chain parts and components between affiliates and subsidiaries of the same company.

Sorry, you're quite misguided on the facts. Like it or not, it was Clinton who actually signed it and implrmented it.

On NAFTA: "Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

Democrats have abandoned US workers.

The 1980s started an explosion of offshoring manufacturing to MX with the maquiladora program under Reagan. My dad's factory was impacted, and he got laid off.

I used to be a R, but this is what capitalism is about. You cannot want capitalism and control whether companies can offshore jobs. The R word (regulation) would be needed to prevent offshoring of jobs.

Also, you forget that it's the Dems that support a living minimum wage, not Rs.

You've been brainwashed. It was Clinton, Bill Clinton, who destroyed our manufacting sector via that NAFTA free trade deal with Mexico and his pushing the WTO to accept China.

Remember Perot? He was 100% right. And this happened well after Reagan.

Do better research. NAFTA was started by Reagan and negotiated by Bush 41. Clinton negotiated side deals on labor and environmental issues before sending it to Congress where 75% of Republicans and 40% of Democrats voted for it.

NAFTA was better than no NAFTA because trade with Mexico and Canada is better for the US than trade with Asia which was the most likely alternative. A huge part of NAFTA trade is related-party trade, shipments of supply chain parts and components between affiliates and subsidiaries of the same company.

Sorry, you're quite misguided on the facts. Like it or not, it was Clinton who actually signed it and implrmented it.

On NAFTA: "Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994."

(Needless to say, that's a full year into Clinton's Presidency, so your blaming Reagan shows your colors too much)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I’m 100% correct on the facts. Clinton signed it but it was negotiated by Bush and passed by Republican votes:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

Democrats have abandoned US workers.

The 1980s started an explosion of offshoring manufacturing to MX with the maquiladora program under Reagan. My dad's factory was impacted, and he got laid off.

I used to be a R, but this is what capitalism is about. You cannot want capitalism and control whether companies can offshore jobs. The R word (regulation) would be needed to prevent offshoring of jobs.

Also, you forget that it's the Dems that support a living minimum wage, not Rs.

You've been brainwashed. It was Clinton, Bill Clinton, who destroyed our manufacting sector via that NAFTA free trade deal with Mexico and his pushing the WTO to accept China.

Remember Perot? He was 100% right. And this happened well after Reagan.

Do better research. NAFTA was started by Reagan and negotiated by Bush 41. Clinton negotiated side deals on labor and environmental issues before sending it to Congress where 75% of Republicans and 40% of Democrats voted for it.

NAFTA was better than no NAFTA because trade with Mexico and Canada is better for the US than trade with Asia which was the most likely alternative. A huge part of NAFTA trade is related-party trade, shipments of supply chain parts and components between affiliates and subsidiaries of the same company.

Sorry, you're quite misguided on the facts. Like it or not, it was Clinton who actually signed it and implrmented it.

On NAFTA: "Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

Democrats have abandoned US workers.

The 1980s started an explosion of offshoring manufacturing to MX with the maquiladora program under Reagan. My dad's factory was impacted, and he got laid off.

I used to be a R, but this is what capitalism is about. You cannot want capitalism and control whether companies can offshore jobs. The R word (regulation) would be needed to prevent offshoring of jobs.

Also, you forget that it's the Dems that support a living minimum wage, not Rs.

You've been brainwashed. It was Clinton, Bill Clinton, who destroyed our manufacting sector via that NAFTA free trade deal with Mexico and his pushing the WTO to accept China.

Remember Perot? He was 100% right. And this happened well after Reagan.

Do better research. NAFTA was started by Reagan and negotiated by Bush 41. Clinton negotiated side deals on labor and environmental issues before sending it to Congress where 75% of Republicans and 40% of Democrats voted for it.

NAFTA was better than no NAFTA because trade with Mexico and Canada is better for the US than trade with Asia which was the most likely alternative. A huge part of NAFTA trade is related-party trade, shipments of supply chain parts and components between affiliates and subsidiaries of the same company.

Sorry, you're quite misguided on the facts. Like it or not, it was Clinton who actually signed it and implrmented it.

On NAFTA: "Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994."

(Needless to say, that's a full year into Clinton's Presidency, so your blaming Reagan shows your colors too much)

You are clueless. It was negotiated over several years beginning in the Reagan administration. The NAFTA treaty itself was signed by Bush. Clinton then added side agreements on labor and environment and signed the law that ratified it after it passed Congress by mostly Republican votes:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575

Here are your buddies at the Heritage Foundation in 1993:

The North American Free Trade Agreement: Ronald Reagan's Vision Realized
https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/the-north-american-free-trade-agreement-ronald-reagans-vision-realized

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do the Dems remain so tone deaf? NYT reported polling data showing skyrocketing support among black voters for Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html


People across the board are sick and tired of the out of the control crime like car jackings and shootings that have skyrocketed under Biden and are a result of local policies enacted by the Democrats. All too often that crime is occurring in black neighborhoods. That and the massive influx of illegal immigrants that have been pouring into the country courtesy of Biden and the Democrats is causing a significant erosion in the confidence of Dems to be able to govern. People want law and order and oour borders to be restored.

It is almost inevitable Trump is going to win. He is leading Biden by double digits now.

our policies continue to screw low wage African Americans.  and we have known this for decades.

people need good jobs to thrive in our capitalism

The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less

Almost everybody knows that in the past 40 years, the real wages and job prospects for low-skilled men, especially low-skilled minority workers, have fallen. And there is evidence, that a rising tide of immigration is  to blame. Now, a new NBER study suggests that immigration has more far-reaching consequences than merely depressing wages and lowering employment rates of low-skilled African-American males: its effects also appear to push some would-be workers into crime and, later, into prison.

https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration


When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent.

Immigration redistributes wealth from those who compete with immigrants to those who use immigrants—from the employee to the employer.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

Democrats have abandoned US workers.

The 1980s started an explosion of offshoring manufacturing to MX with the maquiladora program under Reagan. My dad's factory was impacted, and he got laid off.

I used to be a R, but this is what capitalism is about. You cannot want capitalism and control whether companies can offshore jobs. The R word (regulation) would be needed to prevent offshoring of jobs.

Also, you forget that it's the Dems that support a living minimum wage, not Rs.

You've been brainwashed. It was Clinton, Bill Clinton, who destroyed our manufacting sector via that NAFTA free trade deal with Mexico and his pushing the WTO to accept China.

Remember Perot? He was 100% right. And this happened well after Reagan.

Do better research. NAFTA was started by Reagan and negotiated by Bush 41. Clinton negotiated side deals on labor and environmental issues before sending it to Congress where 75% of Republicans and 40% of Democrats voted for it.

NAFTA was better than no NAFTA because trade with Mexico and Canada is better for the US than trade with Asia which was the most likely alternative. A huge part of NAFTA trade is related-party trade, shipments of supply chain parts and components between affiliates and subsidiaries of the same company.

Sorry, you're quite misguided on the facts. Like it or not, it was Clinton who actually signed it and implrmented it.

On NAFTA: "Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994."

(Needless to say, that's a full year into Clinton's Presidency, so your blaming Reagan shows your colors too much)

You are clueless. It was negotiated over several years beginning in the Reagan administration. The NAFTA treaty itself was signed by Bush. Clinton then added side agreements on labor and environment and signed the law that ratified it after it passed Congress by mostly Republican votes:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575

Here are your buddies at the Heritage Foundation in 1993:

The North American Free Trade Agreement: Ronald Reagan's Vision Realized
https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/the-north-american-free-trade-agreement-ronald-reagans-vision-realized

From the Heritage Foundation report:
Ronald Reagan first proposed a free trade agreement between the U.S. and Mexico in his 1980 presidential campaign. Since that time, The Heritage Foundation is proud of the role it has played in articulating President Reagan's vision of free trade in Latin America and around the world. Since the mid-1980s, Heritage analysts have been stressing that a free trade agreement with Mexico not only will stimulate economic growth in the U.S., but will make Mexico a more stable and prosperous country. Heritage has published over three dozen studies stressing the benefits of free trade in North America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If black Americans want to vote for a guy who said the below . . . and lbh, he still feels like this, go ahead. This sort of thing is ingrained in Trump. Unfortunately they'd be screwing not only themselves but everyone else. But Americans are apparently the dumbest people on the planted.

“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it,” Trump told John R. O’Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, according O’Donnell’s account in his 1991 book “Trumped!” “The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.”

Trump, according to O’Donnell, went on to say, “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.”

Source: https://www.politico.eu/article/15-most-offensive-things-trump-campaign-feminism-migration-racism/

Trump would be pro-profiling stop and frisk. This would be like the case of the woman who married an illegal immigrant voting for Trump only to have her husband deported. She thought, "But, I thought Trump would only go after those other criminals, not someone like my husband."

I wonder if her hubby has re-entered the country illegally, again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DNC has taken black voters for granted. Kick democrats to the curb.

Give us something better to vote for. The RNC has said 'ef the Black voters. Heck, the RNC works overtime to prevent Black voters from voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Haley was schooled in the south. You know how they teach the civil war, right?

It really is a sad statement on our country in 2023 that we still have a huge part of the citizenry denying that slavery was a major reason for the war.

I also find it laughable that DeSantis is calling her out, when his state has walked back the talk of slavery in history books.

This upcoming election really just might be my last straw with this idiocracy.

We do not have a "huge" part of our citizenry denying that slavery was the primary cause of The Civil War. That's similar to saying there is a huge portion of our citizenry that don't believe there was a Holocaust in WW2. You are watching too much cable news and/or assuming that a few loud mouth radical politicians are representing the beliefs of a majority of their electorate if you truly believe a significant percentage of the US population does not acknowledge slavery as the primary cause of The Civil War. There are bigoted idiots walking around among us but they aren't anywhere close to making up a huge portion of our population.

I would love to believe you, but I need to see some stats

The claim that The Civil War was a dispute over state's rights isn't factually incorrect. The states that eventually seceded did so based on their belief that individual states should be able to determine the legality of slavery within their state. This doesn't change the fact that slavery was the primary cause of the war between the states. The Union's victory allowed for the Federal legislation prohibiting slavery to become enforceable in all states by effectively overriding any individual states claim of slavery being a state's rights issue. The correct answer in stating the cause of The Civil War is a dispute between the Federal Government and individual states over whether or not each state should determine the legality of slavery within their state. A large majority of the people that claim the war was a state's rights dispute would acknowledge slavery as being the primary cause of certain states choosing to secede over that dispute.

So the correct answer is both slavery and state rights.

In any case Haley's answer was a joke. The average high-schooler would do better.

States' rights to have slavery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC has taken black voters for granted. Kick democrats to the curb.

For who, exactly? It isn’t as if the other party has anything for them

The other party's policies on education, immigration, abortion and the economy are frankly better for AAs.

One out of four is better for African Americans. If you said that to me in real life, I would wonder if you had just come out of one of your meth fogs.

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Anonymous wrote:Haley was schooled in the south. You know how they teach the civil war, right?

It really is a sad statement on our country in 2023 that we still have a huge part of the citizenry denying that slavery was a major reason for the war.

I also find it laughable that DeSantis is calling her out, when his state has walked back the talk of slavery in history books.

This upcoming election really just might be my last straw with this idiocracy.

We do not have a "huge" part of our citizenry denying that slavery was the primary cause of The Civil War. That's similar to saying there is a huge portion of our citizenry that don't believe there was a Holocaust in WW2. You are watching too much cable news and/or assuming that a few loud mouth radical politicians are representing the beliefs of a majority of their electorate if you truly believe a significant percentage of the US population does not acknowledge slavery as the primary cause of The Civil War. There are bigoted idiots walking around among us but they aren't anywhere close to making up a huge portion of our population.

I would love to believe you, but I need to see some stats

The claim that The Civil War was a dispute over state's rights isn't factually incorrect. The states that eventually seceded did so based on their belief that individual states should be able to determine the legality of slavery within their state. This doesn't change the fact that slavery was the primary cause of the war between the states. The Union's victory allowed for the Federal legislation prohibiting slavery to become enforceable in all states by effectively overriding any individual states claim of slavery being a state's rights issue. The correct answer in stating the cause of The Civil War is a dispute between the Federal Government and individual states over whether or not each state should determine the legality of slavery within their state. A large majority of the people that claim the war was a state's rights dispute would acknowledge slavery as being the primary cause of certain states choosing to secede over that dispute.

So the correct answer is both slavery and state rights.

In any case Haley's answer was a joke. The average high-schooler would do better.

States' rights to have slavery.

States Rights was a self-serving slogan for maintaining and expanding slavery and for threatening secession over slavery a decade before the election of 1860. After the Compromise of 1850, States Rights was the name used by the secessionist faction in the South vs. the Unionist faction, which also supported slavery but did not want to secede. The South had enthusiastically supported the Mexican War and hoped to expand slavery into the new states that would be formed in the western territories acquired in 1848. A lot of Southern politicians lost their minds when California was admitted as a free state in the Compromise of 1850. They wanted all the new territories to be allowed to vote on slavery so they could flood them with pro-slavery settlers before they voted. The 1851-52 elections in the South pitted the States Rights faction that wanted to secede against the Unionists who still trusted their influence in Congress and their ability to infiltrate Presidential Administrations to preserve slavery. Sen. Jeff Davis was the States Rights candidate for Governor of Mississippi in 1851 and LOST to the Unionist candidate, Sen. Henry Stuart Foote. But in 1853, President Franklin Pierce appointed Jeff Davis as the U.S. Secretary of War, showing how deeply embedded the pro-slavery politicians were in Washington. States Rights was all about slavery. They did not really support “states rights” as shown by their insistence on the Fugitive Slave Act requiring free states to capture and return escaped slaves.