Rigor at TJ compared to regular FCPS high Schools

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Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

They've been rolling out Level IV to all the middle schools. It's generated less of a fuss on DCUM than the rollout of Local Level IV to all elementary schools and I'm not sure of the status - complete, underway?

Maybe the contingent of non-AAP students at TJ is high now (previously it was small but not zero), I don't know. Have they released those statistics? Since AAP is supposed to be a GT program and TJ is supposed to be a GT magnet, there should be a large overlap. The overlap with students in Advanced Math should be close to 100%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

HAHA, sour grapes much! I get it. You are still mad that you can't buy your kids way into TJ anymore. You need to find a new hobby.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is insane. Honors classes are taught like AP classes. AP classes are like college and post AP like grad school.

Is anything not difficult at TJ, other than taking a selfie standing outside!

Inside of the school is like a homework hurricane, with quizzes and tests that get graded with a sternness usually reserved for judging chili cook-offs!

And as if that weren't enough, Honors classes are served up with an extra helping of "AP-ness," AP classes are like a fast-track to college, and post-AP courses? Well, they're basically a PhD in academic endurance!

This is laughable. It's pretty much like any FCPS school. It would be best if you people got over it already.

Absolutely not. You have no idea how difficult the courses are and the rigor TJ has. Unlike regular Hig Schools were attending a class and covering the material taught ensures an A, in TJ only 25% of what is taught actually is part of the test/quiz. The kids are expected to research and go into too much depth. Most of the teachers expect self study/reasearch and openly say the rigor is comparable to college courses.

LOLs you can take most of the same classes at any HS. TJ isn't really anything special.

Graduating TJ in the top 1/2 is like getting a STEM degree from a relatively weak STEM place like UVA.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

HAHA, sour grapes much! I get it. You are still mad that you can't buy your kids way into TJ anymore. You need to find a new hobby.

You keep peddling lies about test buying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

Bottom quarter may not be able to handle AAP math, but apparently can write a five line essay.

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ is more rigorous in general than UVA especially for the top 10%.

TJ is more rigorous than all but a select handful of colleges in the country. When it comes specifically to undergrad work in STEM, TJ outpaces basically everyone except MIT and Caltech. At any other school TJ students will routinely report that college is easier.

Even MIT and Caltech gets impressed at the mention of TJ. The difficulty level at TJ is so high that course handouts come with warning labels: "Caution: Contents may induce spontaneous brain combustion." TJ students dont just study physics; they're trying to decipher the secrets of the universe while simultaneously figuring out how to operate a microwave without blowing up the entire building. In chemistry, they've concocted potions that could either win them a Nobel Prize or turn their classmates into frogs. In biology, they spend so much time peering into microscopes that they forever see double every time they look at a regular-sized object. And in calculus they solve such complex mathematical equations that teachers bring in university professors to help grade them.

Serious question: What were you hoping to accomplish with this reply?

We may never know! But we can have a little fun, can we not?

Comparing high school rigor even if it's TJ to college-level courses is like comparing a kiddie pool to the Mariana Trench. At TJ, students are navigating the shallow waters of Calculus BC and maybe multivariable calculus, while a ranked college hits them with the tidal wave of quantum physics with applied calculus. It's like trying to go from driving a big boy bicycle to piloting a spaceship to Mars. TJ is like the kiddie menu or an adult meal at a corner restaurant, and college is the five-course chef's tasting menu at a Michelin-starred restaurant – and you better believe it comes with a hefty bill of late-night & weekend cramming and existential crises.

You don't know what you're talking about. Ask just about any TJ student (except for the ones who attend the schools I mentioned) and they will tell you that college was FAR easier than TJ.

The material is more challenging (or at least more advanced) in college, but the workload, the level of time stress, and the exam pressure is FAR less.

That's not really unique to TJ. Our IB kids that come back to visit report that the IB diploma was far more work than their first two years of college.

Maybe your IB kid went to place like Uva - only the bottom 20% of TJ grads even consider Uva.

This is false. In recent years a student would have to be at least in the top 30-40% of the class at TJ to have a shot at UVA... and the top 20% to get in ED.

I think you may have a point, it's the bottom 30% of TJ grads.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

HAHA, sour grapes much! I get it. You are still mad that you can't buy your kids way into TJ anymore. You need to find a new hobby.

You keep peddling lies about test buying.

It’s all they know how to do.

[Anonymous]

Rigor at TJ is unparalleled. It makes Harvard look like a vacation!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to the topic at hand. Rigor at TJ for Math is 2X-3X compared to other HS.

The only places of Higher Learning more rigorous than TJ is Caltech and MIT.

LOL. Especially with the large contingent of TJ kids now who couldn’t even get into a MS AAP program. It’s a miracle!

HAHA, sour grapes much! I get it. You are still mad that you can't buy your kids way into TJ anymore. You need to find a new hobby.

You keep peddling lies about test buying.

It’s all they know how to do.

I know! Just because our kids could get early access to the questions to determine TJ selection at the prep center isn't the same as buying the test. They had to study those questions, and it wasn't free!

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is insane. Honors classes are taught like AP classes. AP classes are like college and post AP like grad school.

Is anything not difficult at TJ, other than taking a selfie standing outside!

Inside of the school is like a homework hurricane, with quizzes and tests that get graded with a sternness usually reserved for judging chili cook-offs!

And as if that weren't enough, Honors classes are served up with an extra helping of "AP-ness," AP classes are like a fast-track to college, and post-AP courses? Well, they're basically a PhD in academic endurance!

This is laughable. It's pretty much like any FCPS school. It would be best if you people got over it already.

Absolutely not. You have no idea how difficult the courses are and the rigor TJ has. Unlike regular Hig Schools were attending a class and covering the material taught ensures an A, in TJ only 25% of what is taught actually is part of the test/quiz. The kids are expected to research and go into too much depth. Most of the teachers expect self study/reasearch and openly say the rigor is comparable to college courses.

LOLs you can take most of the same classes at any HS. TJ isn't really anything special.

Graduating TJ in the top 1/2 is like getting a STEM degree from a relatively weak STEM place like UVA.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ is insane. Honors classes are taught like AP classes. AP classes are like college and post AP like grad school.

Is anything not difficult at TJ, other than taking a selfie standing outside!

Inside of the school is like a homework hurricane, with quizzes and tests that get graded with a sternness usually reserved for judging chili cook-offs!

And as if that weren't enough, Honors classes are served up with an extra helping of "AP-ness," AP classes are like a fast-track to college, and post-AP courses? Well, they're basically a PhD in academic endurance!

This is laughable. It's pretty much like any FCPS school. It would be best if you people got over it already.

Absolutely not. You have no idea how difficult the courses are and the rigor TJ has. Unlike regular Hig Schools were attending a class and covering the material taught ensures an A, in TJ only 25% of what is taught actually is part of the test/quiz. The kids are expected to research and go into too much depth. Most of the teachers expect self study/reasearch and openly say the rigor is comparable to college courses.

LOLs you can take most of the same classes at any HS. TJ isn't really anything special.

Graduating TJ in the top 1/2 is like getting a STEM degree from a relatively weak STEM place like UVA.

Perhaps but not like many TJ grads can even get into UVA these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ is insane. Honors classes are taught like AP classes. AP classes are like college and post AP like grad school.

Is anything not difficult at TJ, other than taking a selfie standing outside!

Inside of the school is like a homework hurricane, with quizzes and tests that get graded with a sternness usually reserved for judging chili cook-offs!

And as if that weren't enough, Honors classes are served up with an extra helping of "AP-ness," AP classes are like a fast-track to college, and post-AP courses? Well, they're basically a PhD in academic endurance!

This is laughable. It's pretty much like any FCPS school. It would be best if you people got over it already.

Absolutely not. You have no idea how difficult the courses are and the rigor TJ has. Unlike regular Hig Schools were attending a class and covering the material taught ensures an A, in TJ only 25% of what is taught actually is part of the test/quiz. The kids are expected to research and go into too much depth. Most of the teachers expect self study/reasearch and openly say the rigor is comparable to college courses.

LOLs you can take most of the same classes at any HS. TJ isn't really anything special.

Graduating TJ in the top 1/2 is like getting a STEM degree from a relatively weak STEM place like UVA.

Perhaps but not like many TJ grads can even get into UVA these days.

Only if you graduate in the bottom 10%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ is insane. Honors classes are taught like AP classes. AP classes are like college and post AP like grad school.

Is anything not difficult at TJ, other than taking a selfie standing outside!

Inside of the school is like a homework hurricane, with quizzes and tests that get graded with a sternness usually reserved for judging chili cook-offs!

And as if that weren't enough, Honors classes are served up with an extra helping of "AP-ness," AP classes are like a fast-track to college, and post-AP courses? Well, they're basically a PhD in academic endurance!

This is laughable. It's pretty much like any FCPS school. It would be best if you people got over it already.

Absolutely not. You have no idea how difficult the courses are and the rigor TJ has. Unlike regular Hig Schools were attending a class and covering the material taught ensures an A, in TJ only 25% of what is taught actually is part of the test/quiz. The kids are expected to research and go into too much depth. Most of the teachers expect self study/reasearch and openly say the rigor is comparable to college courses.

LOLs you can take most of the same classes at any HS. TJ isn't really anything special.

Graduating TJ in the top 1/2 is like getting a STEM degree from a relatively weak STEM place like UVA.

Perhaps but not like many TJ grads can even get into UVA these days.

Only if you graduate in the bottom 10%.

In all fairness not many TJ grads even qualify even those in the top half. It's pretty sad really.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ is insane. Honors classes are taught like AP classes. AP classes are like college and post AP like grad school.

Is anything not difficult at TJ, other than taking a selfie standing outside!

Inside of the school is like a homework hurricane, with quizzes and tests that get graded with a sternness usually reserved for judging chili cook-offs!

And as if that weren't enough, Honors classes are served up with an extra helping of "AP-ness," AP classes are like a fast-track to college, and post-AP courses? Well, they're basically a PhD in academic endurance!

This is laughable. It's pretty much like any FCPS school. It would be best if you people got over it already.

Absolutely not. You have no idea how difficult the courses are and the rigor TJ has. Unlike regular Hig Schools were attending a class and covering the material taught ensures an A, in TJ only 25% of what is taught actually is part of the test/quiz. The kids are expected to research and go into too much depth. Most of the teachers expect self study/reasearch and openly say the rigor is comparable to college courses.

LOLs you can take most of the same classes at any HS. TJ isn't really anything special.

Graduating TJ in the top 1/2 is like getting a STEM degree from a relatively weak STEM place like UVA.

Perhaps but not like many TJ grads can even get into UVA these days.

Only if you graduate in the bottom 10%.

In all fairness not many TJ grads even qualify even those in the top half. It's pretty sad really.

UVA's e-school even has an average SAT over 1550 which is well above TJ's median score. It just goes to show how far standards at TJ have fallen.