Rigor at TJ compared to regular FCPS high Schools

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Anonymous wrote:I dont know about other schools, but at TJ, for example, even the Hons Chem is taught at a AP Chem level.

Colleges are aware of this.

Maybe some instate schools but outside of VA nobody even has heard of TJ.

For decades everyone has heard of TJ as the number one school in US. But after admission changes and lowered rigor, TJ went down in ranking.

The first class of kids under the new program are not yet the main cohort showing up in the ranking data. They’re juniors now.

Most who are familiar with the changes realize the school is now stronger than its been in decades. Toxicity has been reduced and the rampant cheating that was affecting selection was addressed.

Cheating is what students resort to when they are admitted to TJ using essay instead of solid math and science skills test.

This was pretty rampant since they were selecting kids who had bought the test answers. There were so many who thought nothing of cheating back then.

Well they are still cheating because they can't handle the work. There are many low performing students at the school that would not have been admitted before. Many of them regret staying.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont know about other schools, but at TJ, for example, even the Hons Chem is taught at a AP Chem level.

Colleges are aware of this.

Maybe some instate schools but outside of VA nobody even has heard of TJ.

For decades everyone has heard of TJ as the number one school in US. But after admission changes and lowered rigor, TJ went down in ranking.

The first class of kids under the new program are not yet the main cohort showing up in the ranking data. They’re juniors now.

Most who are familiar with the changes realize the school is now stronger than its been in decades. Toxicity has been reduced and the rampant cheating that was affecting selection was addressed.

Cheating is what students resort to when they are admitted to TJ using essay instead of solid math and science skills test.

This was pretty rampant since they were selecting kids who had bought the test answers. There were so many who thought nothing of cheating back then.

Well they are still cheating because they can't handle the work. There are many low performing students at the school that would not have been admitted before. Many of them regret staying.

The kids who required all that prep to present as gifted falsely have always had a tough time at TJ. I'm so glad they addressed this by limiting admission to the more naturally talented and reducing the prep factor,

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LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont know about other schools, but at TJ, for example, even the Hons Chem is taught at a AP Chem level.

Colleges are aware of this.

Maybe some instate schools but outside of VA nobody even has heard of TJ.

For decades everyone has heard of TJ as the number one school in US. But after admission changes and lowered rigor, TJ went down in ranking.

The first class of kids under the new program are not yet the main cohort showing up in the ranking data. They’re juniors now.

Most who are familiar with the changes realize the school is now stronger than its been in decades. Toxicity has been reduced and the rampant cheating that was affecting selection was addressed.

Cheating is what students resort to when they are admitted to TJ using essay instead of solid math and science skills test.

This was pretty rampant since they were selecting kids who had bought the test answers. There were so many who thought nothing of cheating back then.

Well they are still cheating because they can't handle the work. There are many low performing students at the school that would not have been admitted before. Many of them regret staying.

The kids who required all that prep to present as gifted falsely have always had a tough time at TJ. I'm so glad they addressed this by limiting admission to the more naturally talented and reducing the prep factor,

Thanks for the laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont know about other schools, but at TJ, for example, even the Hons Chem is taught at a AP Chem level.

Colleges are aware of this.

Maybe some instate schools but outside of VA nobody even has heard of TJ.

For decades everyone has heard of TJ as the number one school in US. But after admission changes and lowered rigor, TJ went down in ranking.

The first class of kids under the new program are not yet the main cohort showing up in the ranking data. They’re juniors now.

Most who are familiar with the changes realize the school is now stronger than its been in decades. Toxicity has been reduced and the rampant cheating that was affecting selection was addressed.

Cheating is what students resort to when they are admitted to TJ using essay instead of solid math and science skills test.

This was pretty rampant since they were selecting kids who had bought the test answers. There were so many who thought nothing of cheating back then.

Well they are still cheating because they can't handle the work. There are many low performing students at the school that would not have been admitted before. Many of them regret staying.

The kids who required all that prep to present as gifted falsely have always had a tough time at TJ. I'm so glad they addressed this by limiting admission to the more naturally talented and reducing the prep factor,

Yes they weren't able to get in without the test answers but some insist that is merit. It's pretty laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont know about other schools, but at TJ, for example, even the Hons Chem is taught at a AP Chem level.

Colleges are aware of this.

Maybe some instate schools but outside of VA nobody even has heard of TJ.

For decades everyone has heard of TJ as the number one school in US. But after admission changes and lowered rigor, TJ went down in ranking.

The first class of kids under the new program are not yet the main cohort showing up in the ranking data. They’re juniors now.

Most who are familiar with the changes realize the school is now stronger than its been in decades. Toxicity has been reduced and the rampant cheating that was affecting selection was addressed.

Cheating is what students resort to when they are admitted to TJ using essay instead of solid math and science skills test.

This was pretty rampant since they were selecting kids who had bought the test answers. There were so many who thought nothing of cheating back then.

Well they are still cheating because they can't handle the work. There are many low performing students at the school that would not have been admitted before. Many of them regret staying.

The kids who required all that prep to present as gifted falsely have always had a tough time at TJ. I'm so glad they addressed this by limiting admission to the more naturally talented and reducing the prep factor,

Yes they weren't able to get in without the test answers but some insist that is merit. It's pretty laughable.

Agree my TJ kid tells me the kids admitted under the new system are much more talented.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

That’s a good argument for returning TJ to use as a community school and abandoning the false pretense that it still attracts the region’s best students.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

That’s a good argument for returning TJ to use as a community school and abandoning the false pretense that it still attracts the region’s best students.

No, it's not. I'm sorry you didn't understand my point.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

That’s a good argument for returning TJ to use as a community school and abandoning the false pretense that it still attracts the region’s best students.

No, it's not. I'm sorry you didn't understand my point.

TJ admissions were revised so that Langley would be the #1 school, that's what the parents paid for.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

That’s a good argument for returning TJ to use as a community school and abandoning the false pretense that it still attracts the region’s best students.

No, it's not. I'm sorry you didn't understand my point.

TJ admissions were revised so that Langley would be the #1 school, that's what the parents paid for.

lol

That's a poor ROI since it didn't happen and won't.

[Anonymous]

DC is a freshman at TJ. The report card for first quarter just came out. Do all subjects use a rolling gradebook or it depends on the teacher/subject?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a freshman at TJ. The report card for first quarter just came out. Do all subjects use a rolling gradebook or it depends on the teacher/subject?

Good question.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

That’s a good argument for returning TJ to use as a community school and abandoning the false pretense that it still attracts the region’s best students.

No, there isn’t. The school is not built to serve as a community school. It would require a significant amount of retrofitting to the existing building plot and would almost certainly decimate Annandale and Edison.

This is a fever dream that for some idiot reason won’t die on these boards. TJ is going to continue being what it is because it cannot be anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are clearly delusional. TJ senior class has 345 students (out of abojt 430 senior class size) who are National merit semi finalists or commended. 165 are semi finalists and 180 commended. You can’t achieve these honors simply with test prep.

You will see a significant drop with the class of 2025 (first year under new admissions system). I have a child admitted under the new system who probably wouldn’t have applied under the old system and they even see the difference in the kids admitted now and the impression is not smarter nor naturally more intelligent.

Fwiw, there's a point where bringing together the best of the best is no longer beneficial for anyone - and TJ was at that point, was passed that point.

That’s a good argument for returning TJ to use as a community school and abandoning the false pretense that it still attracts the region’s best students.

No, there isn’t. The school is not built to serve as a community school. It would require a significant amount of retrofitting to the existing building plot and would almost certainly decimate Annandale and Edison.

This is a fever dream that for some idiot reason won’t die on these boards. TJ is going to continue being what it is because it cannot be anything else.

The school was built as a community school. Returning it to that use would not decimate Annandale and Edison if there were other boundary changes.

But the idiots will keep claiming TJ is special when it’s now just mostly an escape hatch from the lower-tier schools rather than anything truly unique justifying the constant drama.