Where are people’s manners?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/908921.page

I’d recognize you anywhere, bacon lady!

This is definitely Bacon Lady. I can't believe the other post was three years ago. I remember it like it was yesterday. Follow travellers - too funny

Why does she keep inviting these families?

Time flies when you have bacon and snacks to make you feel better.

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Also if OP wasn't willing to share anything then she should have stated up front what the daily use charge of this rented place was and indicate everything they might need for the day would have to be brought with them. Food, drinks, floats, toilet paper, towels, plates, cups, cutlery, etc. all were not to be shared. Every family fends for itself.

If I invite you over to our rental and I have to provide you with towels, floats, sunscreen, bug spray, chairs, snacks, breakfast, lunch and dinner, drinks, dog food and entertainment… then please don’t come. I’m not your mommy.

We routinely host people at our lake cottage, and we provide all of the above and more—of course we do, we are hosting people we invited. All that we ask is that people help clean up before they leave. (Not in the “strip the beds” sense, just in the make sure all the water toys are put away in the shed, make sure the towels are hung on the line to dry or in the hamper to wash, help clean up the kitchen after use).

When guests offer, we do ask them to bring a side dish or bring their own towels for the day to take back with them (if they are not staying overnight), but we are prepared to provide all the above and more. That said, leave your dogs at home or board your dog (or don’t visit), as DH is allergic.

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Anonymous wrote:ICYMI: pool toys are for everyone. They are universally known to be communal property.

Didn’t you teach your kids that when they were little? Anytime we went to the neighborhood pool I brought extra toys and reminded my little ones that anything we brought to the pool would be shared.

As an adult hosting guests at a vacation home, you let the other kid use the item for 15 minutes and then you let the other parent know that your Larla shared her floaties with Johnny and now she would like to have a turn.

Adulting really isn’t hard…

First of all, these are not little kids. These are teenagers and they don’t take turns.

Secondly, not in our pool. Who told you others’ pool toys are yours to take?

You have no concept of personal boundaries, do you?

I never saw these universal rules at our neighborhood pools or pools at hotels. Kid's pool toys weren't shared unless the kids started playing together which didn't happen all the time. Also I'm not obligated to provide sleeping arrangements for someone I've invited for dinner.

Public pools are not the same as private pools where presumably you know everyone. Different rules apply. These weren't strangers sharing a hotel pool in OPs case. Sharing of pool floats would be the norm. And usually the kids all play together on them. I'm getting the sense that OP has toddlers and was wildly unprepared for what much older kids are like talking about not sharing toys and eating all the snacks of which there can't have been many of.

Even at more public pools, sharing pool toys happens a lot.

So? It may happen a lot, but it's the norm at a private pool and expected. It would be weird to be territorial and possessive of pool toys with friends and family at a private pool like we're talking about in OPs case. Which makes me think OP has tiny kids. Because if the kids are all tweens and teens it would be ridiculous to get involved and intervene over pool toys. Kids that age aren't crying to mommy about it. And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off. But, it's ok to ask for them back when you want to play with them again.

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Anonymous wrote:ICYMI: pool toys are for everyone. They are universally known to be communal property.

Didn’t you teach your kids that when they were little? Anytime we went to the neighborhood pool I brought extra toys and reminded my little ones that anything we brought to the pool would be shared.

As an adult hosting guests at a vacation home, you let the other kid use the item for 15 minutes and then you let the other parent know that your Larla shared her floaties with Johnny and now she would like to have a turn.

Adulting really isn’t hard…

First of all, these are not little kids. These are teenagers and they don’t take turns.

Secondly, not in our pool. Who told you others’ pool toys are yours to take?

You have no concept of personal boundaries, do you?

I never saw these universal rules at our neighborhood pools or pools at hotels. Kid's pool toys weren't shared unless the kids started playing together which didn't happen all the time. Also I'm not obligated to provide sleeping arrangements for someone I've invited for dinner.

Public pools are not the same as private pools where presumably you know everyone. Different rules apply. These weren't strangers sharing a hotel pool in OPs case. Sharing of pool floats would be the norm. And usually the kids all play together on them. I'm getting the sense that OP has toddlers and was wildly unprepared for what much older kids are like talking about not sharing toys and eating all the snacks of which there can't have been many of.

Even at more public pools, sharing pool toys happens a lot.

So? It may happen a lot, but it's the norm at a private pool and expected. It would be weird to be territorial and possessive of pool toys with friends and family at a private pool like we're talking about in OPs case. Which makes me think OP has tiny kids. Because if the kids are all tweens and teens it would be ridiculous to get involved and intervene over pool toys. Kids that age aren't crying to mommy about it. And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off. But, it's ok to ask for them back when you want to play with them again.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

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Anonymous wrote:ICYMI: pool toys are for everyone. They are universally known to be communal property.

Didn’t you teach your kids that when they were little? Anytime we went to the neighborhood pool I brought extra toys and reminded my little ones that anything we brought to the pool would be shared.

As an adult hosting guests at a vacation home, you let the other kid use the item for 15 minutes and then you let the other parent know that your Larla shared her floaties with Johnny and now she would like to have a turn.

Adulting really isn’t hard…

First of all, these are not little kids. These are teenagers and they don’t take turns.

Secondly, not in our pool. Who told you others’ pool toys are yours to take?

You have no concept of personal boundaries, do you?

I never saw these universal rules at our neighborhood pools or pools at hotels. Kid's pool toys weren't shared unless the kids started playing together which didn't happen all the time. Also I'm not obligated to provide sleeping arrangements for someone I've invited for dinner.

Public pools are not the same as private pools where presumably you know everyone. Different rules apply. These weren't strangers sharing a hotel pool in OPs case. Sharing of pool floats would be the norm. And usually the kids all play together on them. I'm getting the sense that OP has toddlers and was wildly unprepared for what much older kids are like talking about not sharing toys and eating all the snacks of which there can't have been many of.

Even at more public pools, sharing pool toys happens a lot.

So? It may happen a lot, but it's the norm at a private pool and expected. It would be weird to be territorial and possessive of pool toys with friends and family at a private pool like we're talking about in OPs case. Which makes me think OP has tiny kids. Because if the kids are all tweens and teens it would be ridiculous to get involved and intervene over pool toys. Kids that age aren't crying to mommy about it. And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off. But, it's ok to ask for them back when you want to play with them again.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

It's not really relevant what's going on at public pools or what universal rules may or may not apply there. OP wasn't at a public pool. It's even more ridiculous to be crying about pool toys in a private backyard pool amongst friends and family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ICYMI: pool toys are for everyone. They are universally known to be communal property.

Didn’t you teach your kids that when they were little? Anytime we went to the neighborhood pool I brought extra toys and reminded my little ones that anything we brought to the pool would be shared.

As an adult hosting guests at a vacation home, you let the other kid use the item for 15 minutes and then you let the other parent know that your Larla shared her floaties with Johnny and now she would like to have a turn.

Adulting really isn’t hard…

First of all, these are not little kids. These are teenagers and they don’t take turns.

Secondly, not in our pool. Who told you others’ pool toys are yours to take?

You have no concept of personal boundaries, do you?

I never saw these universal rules at our neighborhood pools or pools at hotels. Kid's pool toys weren't shared unless the kids started playing together which didn't happen all the time. Also I'm not obligated to provide sleeping arrangements for someone I've invited for dinner.

Public pools are not the same as private pools where presumably you know everyone. Different rules apply. These weren't strangers sharing a hotel pool in OPs case. Sharing of pool floats would be the norm. And usually the kids all play together on them. I'm getting the sense that OP has toddlers and was wildly unprepared for what much older kids are like talking about not sharing toys and eating all the snacks of which there can't have been many of.

Even at more public pools, sharing pool toys happens a lot.

So? It may happen a lot, but it's the norm at a private pool and expected. It would be weird to be territorial and possessive of pool toys with friends and family at a private pool like we're talking about in OPs case. Which makes me think OP has tiny kids. Because if the kids are all tweens and teens it would be ridiculous to get involved and intervene over pool toys. Kids that age aren't crying to mommy about it. And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off. But, it's ok to ask for them back when you want to play with them again.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

It's not really relevant what's going on at public pools or what universal rules may or may not apply there. OP wasn't at a public pool. It's even more ridiculous to be crying about pool toys in a private backyard pool amongst friends and family.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

[Anonymous]

Read a few pages of the bacon thread and now I'm kind of getting the vibe OP is an almond mom, who has her very specific foods (organic, lower calorie, or whatever) and wants to bring just enough for her family, so that she can carefully monitor how much everyone eats and create a scarcity around the food. And God forbid if they run out of their food, and have to eat the regular people food like whole milk. It's that sense of control and that idea of "OMG, those other kids ate *so* much." If these two kids ate all of the snacks for the entire weekend in a matter of hours plus were served dinner, I'm guessing the snacks weren't that abundant in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:ICYMI: pool toys are for everyone. They are universally known to be communal property.

Didn’t you teach your kids that when they were little? Anytime we went to the neighborhood pool I brought extra toys and reminded my little ones that anything we brought to the pool would be shared.

As an adult hosting guests at a vacation home, you let the other kid use the item for 15 minutes and then you let the other parent know that your Larla shared her floaties with Johnny and now she would like to have a turn.

Adulting really isn’t hard…

First of all, these are not little kids. These are teenagers and they don’t take turns.

Secondly, not in our pool. Who told you others’ pool toys are yours to take?

You have no concept of personal boundaries, do you?

I never saw these universal rules at our neighborhood pools or pools at hotels. Kid's pool toys weren't shared unless the kids started playing together which didn't happen all the time. Also I'm not obligated to provide sleeping arrangements for someone I've invited for dinner.

Public pools are not the same as private pools where presumably you know everyone. Different rules apply. These weren't strangers sharing a hotel pool in OPs case. Sharing of pool floats would be the norm. And usually the kids all play together on them. I'm getting the sense that OP has toddlers and was wildly unprepared for what much older kids are like talking about not sharing toys and eating all the snacks of which there can't have been many of.

Even at more public pools, sharing pool toys happens a lot.

So? It may happen a lot, but it's the norm at a private pool and expected. It would be weird to be territorial and possessive of pool toys with friends and family at a private pool like we're talking about in OPs case. Which makes me think OP has tiny kids. Because if the kids are all tweens and teens it would be ridiculous to get involved and intervene over pool toys. Kids that age aren't crying to mommy about it. And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off. But, it's ok to ask for them back when you want to play with them again.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

It's not really relevant what's going on at public pools or what universal rules may or may not apply there. OP wasn't at a public pool. It's even more ridiculous to be crying about pool toys in a private backyard pool amongst friends and family.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

Wow yeah. It's not really sharing if someone takes your kids toys when they're not looking. It's more like stealing but to not cause problems we call it "sharing" and you're lucky if you get them back. Not at all like private pools where the toys aren't going to go missing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, agree ^^ would love to hear the other side of the story.

They probably sat in Labor Day weekend traffic to make it to your beach house so they arrived tired and hungry,
They hadnt eaten since they left. You huped up how great your beach house was with all the amenities and what a great dinner youd have.
Hosts provide snacks to weary traveling guests especially if they arrive prior for dinner .
You knew they had tween/teens who, by their nature, are ravenously hungry, so when you served them -I'm guessing something skimpy bc you said dinner would be in 2 hrs - everyone was still hungry.

So you invite them for the day, but only offer to serve them dinner? And BYO snack(?)?

Agree. Kids in that age group eat a lot. I just had my nieces in town for a few days ( they are 10 and 13) and they ate everything all the time. And I didn't mind it at all. You are a cheapskate to not offer them snacks/fruits whatever before dinner.

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Anonymous wrote:ICYMI: pool toys are for everyone. They are universally known to be communal property.

Didn’t you teach your kids that when they were little? Anytime we went to the neighborhood pool I brought extra toys and reminded my little ones that anything we brought to the pool would be shared.

As an adult hosting guests at a vacation home, you let the other kid use the item for 15 minutes and then you let the other parent know that your Larla shared her floaties with Johnny and now she would like to have a turn.

Adulting really isn’t hard…

First of all, these are not little kids. These are teenagers and they don’t take turns.

Secondly, not in our pool. Who told you others’ pool toys are yours to take?

You have no concept of personal boundaries, do you?

I never saw these universal rules at our neighborhood pools or pools at hotels. Kid's pool toys weren't shared unless the kids started playing together which didn't happen all the time. Also I'm not obligated to provide sleeping arrangements for someone I've invited for dinner.

Public pools are not the same as private pools where presumably you know everyone. Different rules apply. These weren't strangers sharing a hotel pool in OPs case. Sharing of pool floats would be the norm. And usually the kids all play together on them. I'm getting the sense that OP has toddlers and was wildly unprepared for what much older kids are like talking about not sharing toys and eating all the snacks of which there can't have been many of.

Even at more public pools, sharing pool toys happens a lot.

So? It may happen a lot, but it's the norm at a private pool and expected. It would be weird to be territorial and possessive of pool toys with friends and family at a private pool like we're talking about in OPs case. Which makes me think OP has tiny kids. Because if the kids are all tweens and teens it would be ridiculous to get involved and intervene over pool toys. Kids that age aren't crying to mommy about it. And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off. But, it's ok to ask for them back when you want to play with them again.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

It's not really relevant what's going on at public pools or what universal rules may or may not apply there. OP wasn't at a public pool. It's even more ridiculous to be crying about pool toys in a private backyard pool amongst friends and family.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

Wow yeah. It's not really sharing if someone takes your kids toys when they're not looking. It's more like stealing but to not cause problems we call it "sharing" and you're lucky if you get them back. Not at all like private pools where the toys aren't going to go missing.

Wow yeah. Hence the use of the word “even”.

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Another question: do you belong to a country club or neighborhood pool? Do you sit in a corner and avoid interacting with others? It’s normal for little kids to play together and share toys rather than play alone.

For 100th time, these are adults and teenagers. They don’t “play together”.

And no, at our neighbourhood pool people don’t share floaties.

So let me get this straight. OP invite a family over to their weekend rental and gets mad when the other family’s teenagers grab the floaties? Did her teenager not use the floaties too? She is really complaining about this?

What a disingenuous recounting of what happened. The family had no boundaries and one family ate all the snacks meant for two families for the weekend, took over a person's bedroom without asking, and took over the pool. They didn't politely ask to do any of this. They also didn't bring a single crumb to help provide food.
They are louts.

Try to keep up. This specific comment thread was about the floaties. From the OP: “The kids take our floaties without asking.” Clearly she was pressed over it if she brought it up.

I know thinking is hard for you... you make it sound as if she is a floatie hoarder. She was fed up with their behavior in multiple instances and this was just an additional piece of info.

[Anonymous]

OP/Bacon Lady, group vacations are not for you. Stop doing them. Nuclear family only.

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Also if OP wasn't willing to share anything then she should have stated up front what the daily use charge of this rented place was and indicate everything they might need for the day would have to be brought with them. Food, drinks, floats, toilet paper, towels, plates, cups, cutlery, etc. all were not to be shared. Every family fends for itself.

If I invite you over to our rental and I have to provide you with towels, floats, sunscreen, bug spray, chairs, snacks, breakfast, lunch and dinner, drinks, dog food and entertainment… then please don’t come. I’m not your mommy.

You know, I’m an over generous person and host but I kind of agree. If there are people showing up with this kind of insensitive entitled helplessness, I would probably crack. Show me that your smooth brains fired up a tiny bit and made some effort at something. One thing. Anything. But I don’t know people like this, so I don’t need to be tested and possibly become a homicidal maniac.

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Another question: do you belong to a country club or neighborhood pool? Do you sit in a corner and avoid interacting with others? It’s normal for little kids to play together and share toys rather than play alone.

For 100th time, these are adults and teenagers. They don’t “play together”.

And no, at our neighbourhood pool people don’t share floaties.

So let me get this straight. OP invite a family over to their weekend rental and gets mad when the other family’s teenagers grab the floaties? Did her teenager not use the floaties too? She is really complaining about this?

What a disingenuous recounting of what happened. The family had no boundaries and one family ate all the snacks meant for two families for the weekend, took over a person's bedroom without asking, and took over the pool. They didn't politely ask to do any of this. They also didn't bring a single crumb to help provide food.
They are louts.

Try to keep up. This specific comment thread was about the floaties. From the OP: “The kids take our floaties without asking.” Clearly she was pressed over it if she brought it up.

I know thinking is hard for you... you make it sound as if she is a floatie hoarder. She was fed up with their behavior in multiple instances and this was just an additional piece of info.

Weird you’re speaking in the 3rd person

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: And toys aren't so much shared as taken and tolerated at public pools because they become fair game when the toy owner leaves them unattended and wanders off.

That’s exactly the problem.

It’s people like you who teaches your kids it’s OK to take other people’s things when they leave them unattended or look away.

How is this OK? Why do you feel entitled to others’ personal items?

We were brought up to ask permission before using others’ stuff.

You were obviously raised in a barn.