Unintended Consequences of Covid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

Is this satire?

Yes. This is a coocoo repeat poster who still has her kids in virtual. As recently as 2022 she & people like her were still influencing covid policy.

Also, she blames parents for not "socializing" their kids, yet ranted at anyone who left their house for the first two years of the pandemic. Selfish! And she has younger kids. Her kids are thriving in virtual. Absolutely love it. Only slacker parents have kids who have any desire to leave their house and be out in the world. Outdoor supervised masked playdates for 17-year-olds are the best!

My kids have never had playdates. That's some made up non-sense for parents. We made it work. You are a parent and should have made it work too. Plenty of activities were open. School has been in person for the last two years. Most people have taken no precautions for over two years so continuing to blame covid for the issues is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

Is this satire?

Yes. This is a coocoo repeat poster who still has her kids in virtual. As recently as 2022 she & people like her were still influencing covid policy.

Also, she blames parents for not "socializing" their kids, yet ranted at anyone who left their house for the first two years of the pandemic. Selfish! And she has younger kids. Her kids are thriving in virtual. Absolutely love it. Only slacker parents have kids who have any desire to leave their house and be out in the world. Outdoor supervised masked playdates for 17-year-olds are the best!

My kids have never had playdates. That's some made up non-sense for parents. We made it work. You are a parent and should have made it work too. Plenty of activities were open. School has been in person for the last two years. Most people have taken no precautions for over two years so continuing to blame covid for the issues is absurd.

Lady, you are nuttier than a fruitcake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

Is this satire?

Yes. This is a coocoo repeat poster who still has her kids in virtual. As recently as 2022 she & people like her were still influencing covid policy.

Also, she blames parents for not "socializing" their kids, yet ranted at anyone who left their house for the first two years of the pandemic. Selfish! And she has younger kids. Her kids are thriving in virtual. Absolutely love it. Only slacker parents have kids who have any desire to leave their house and be out in the world. Outdoor supervised masked playdates for 17-year-olds are the best!

My kids have never had playdates. That's some made up non-sense for parents. We made it work. You are a parent and should have made it work too. Plenty of activities were open. School has been in person for the last two years. Most people have taken no precautions for over two years so continuing to blame covid for the issues is absurd.

Lady, you are nuttier than a fruitcake.

You are nuttier than far more than a fruitcake if you are still obsessed with your kids having to be virtual for a year and blaming that on all the issues within your family. Virtual was the least of the issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

It was spreading among essential workers. For example, in meat processing facilities there were several huge outbreaks. The alternative was shutting down essential work and just letting everyone starve to death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

Those are a lot of talking points jammed into one paragraph. We really do not have medical evidence supporting the idea that it’s just a serious cold for most. Rhinovirus does not ever result in “long rhinovirus.” People also don’t get new heart problems or autoimmune disease from having rhinovirus. Actuarial tables have never been systematically adjusted (which is happening now to incorporate death risk from
one or more COVID infections) because of rhinovirus.

I agree re basic precautions going a long way. The precautions for an airborne disease of this seriousness are vaccines (where available, as they are for COVID), cleaning the air, and widespread masking, not vaccines, doing nothing else, and taking the position that masking is too goofy to bear.

Lamentably most of us, including public health officials, do not seem to have learned those lessons at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

Those are a lot of talking points jammed into one paragraph. We really do not have medical evidence supporting the idea that it’s just a serious cold for most. Rhinovirus does not ever result in “long rhinovirus.” People also don’t get new heart problems or autoimmune disease from having rhinovirus. Actuarial tables have never been systematically adjusted (which is happening now to incorporate death risk from
one or more COVID infections) because of rhinovirus.

I agree re basic precautions going a long way. The precautions for an airborne disease of this seriousness are vaccines (where available, as they are for COVID), cleaning the air, and widespread masking, not vaccines, doing nothing else, and taking the position that masking is too goofy to bear.

Lamentably most of us, including public health officials, do not seem to have learned those lessons at all.

Reality is you can get autoimmune disease or heart problems from a lot of things. At this point, it's mutated and as good as its going to get as people aren't willing to take precautions. Common sense is to keep masking, wash hands and be careful in close contact to others but most stopped doing that a long time ago. You can keep ranting about those medical concerns, and they are concerns but reality is if it were going to have that impact on you, it probably would. Anything can trigger an autoimmune disease. At this point, I'm more concerned about a bad cold over covid and either way, I'll continue to mask and take precautions but ranting about it makes no sense. No one cares except a few of us, and you aren't going to change others selfish behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

A closer comparison regarding severity would be influenza, which we take some precautions for, but certainly aren't masking or broadly shutting down activities every winter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

A closer comparison regarding severity would be influenza, which we take some precautions for, but certainly aren't masking or broadly shutting down activities every winter.

"We" still mask when we can, especially shopping, anything indoors, doctors appointments, etc. If you choose not to, that's on you but stop complaining about covid already when "we" as in you take no precautions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

A closer comparison regarding severity would be influenza, which we take some precautions for, but certainly aren't masking or broadly shutting down activities every winter.

Deaths from COVID have not yet declined to match a bad flu year in most of our lifetimes. Let alone the level of death and disability from post-COVID complications.

What public officials say about all of this does matter. The continued excess deaths in this decade will eventually tell on them—history won’t look kindly on them for having led the acceptance of it as “urgently normal.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

A closer comparison regarding severity would be influenza, which we take some precautions for, but certainly aren't masking or broadly shutting down activities every winter.

Deaths from COVID have not yet declined to match a bad flu year in most of our lifetimes. Let alone the level of death and disability from post-COVID complications.

What public officials say about all of this does matter. The continued excess deaths in this decade will eventually tell on them—history won’t look kindly on them for having led the acceptance of it as “urgently normal.”

Either way most people only care about themselves so all you can do at this point is continue caution and mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ And, I’ll add that there are people who don’t want to look back and evaluate the errors that were made.

Why is that? Why would you not want to learn from our mistakes for the next time something like this happens? Our public health officials deserve some scrutiny. Fauci and the rest screwed up royally.

I would love for us to look back and learn real lessons for the future.

But unfortunately, that won't happen, because of angry a-hats like you, who don't *really* want to learn anything, you just want to punish someone. Maybe you think it will make you feel better. Maybe you have the emotional maturity of a five-year-old. I don't really care. Stupid idiots like you won't really want to hear what the lessons are, because if they don't all jibe with your "public officials were all awful people who conspired to destroy my children" narrative, and if no one ends up with their head on the chopping block, you'll ignore the lessons anyway and waste everyone's time with your angry nonsense in your quest for blood.

People are morons. We never learn from things like this and just repeat our mistakes. Like the PPs on this and other threads going on about how you'll never listen to public officials again and how you *know* so much about how things should go. If there is another pandemic in our lifetimes (God, I hope not), you'll put people's lives at risk, because of what you think you "know".

Or the GOP will take any grain of truth from the lessons that they can possibly twist and use it to further dismantle public school systems.

I would love for us to look back earnestly and try to learn real lessons for the future. I would love for us to come together to try and work on ways to help our children going forward. But none of that will happen because people suck.

The big mistakes were not catching it quick enough and doing a real lockdown and making it last much longer so we could have saved more lives. You aren't thinking of or care about the kids who lost parents, grandparents and other loved ones who lost their lives way to early. The kids who are orphaned because of this. The kids who were in the ICU because of severe covid. The kids who have long term health issues because of it or their parents. All you care about is ranting about how your kids, like many were in virtual school and you couldn't handle them being home with you which is so odd given you have to care for them all summer or are they at sleep away camp or relatives?

Our officials failed in in not taking this more seriously early on and how they behaved during it by setting a bad example.

There is no analysis in which “do a real lockdown earlier” would have prevented what has happened (and will keep happening to 1200 people a week—plus a significant number of people getting long COVID and post-COVID diagnoses of other kinds—until we have a sterilizing vaccine, do something real about indoor air quality to prevent it, or both).

This is just nuttiness and does not contribute to a rational evaluation of this interval.

For frame of reference, I wear a mask all of the time indoors, unless there is a medical need not to.

You’re correct, stopping the spread was never possible. It was already in multiple European countries before the first cases were reported in China. Not sure what wearing a mask for the rest of your life has to do with anything.

My point is that even someone who continues to take COVID dead serious—delusionally so according to others in this very thread—can recognize that analysis as off the wall.

Hopefully those who think COVID is now “just a cold for the vaccinated” and yet are still enraged by various social distancing measures (including school closures) that took place at least 2 years ago can step back and take a deep breath about the nutso things said on their side of this as well.

Covid now is just a serious cold for most as it’s finally mutated enough to be less severe and it’s killed off the majority it could, sadly. But, some of us learned from that experience to know basic precautions can go a long way in keeping healthy.

A closer comparison regarding severity would be influenza, which we take some precautions for, but certainly aren't masking or broadly shutting down activities every winter.

Deaths from COVID have not yet declined to match a bad flu year in most of our lifetimes. Let alone the level of death and disability from post-COVID complications.

What public officials say about all of this does matter. The continued excess deaths in this decade will eventually tell on them—history won’t look kindly on them for having led the acceptance of it as “urgently normal.”

Wtf were we all supposed to do? Truly, the writing was on the wall as of Omicron (earlier for people who actually understand coronaviruses). China tried and failed to reach zero covid. It is literally impossible.