The Diplomat

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The thing that's annoying about the emphasis on her being a stinky frump is that, even bare-faced and greasy, she looks like KERI RUSSELL, a freaking gorgeous celebrity, so yeah, we can kinda find it charming.

If she looked like an average woman (much less an average MIDDLE-AGED woman), greasy hair and stinky pits would effectively KILL a career, because society ain't got no time or patience for it.

So, these details are all, beneath the surface, suppose to make us relate to and care for her because she's not like other girls, when in fact the tacit logic that persuades us that her character could get away with this BS is because we KNOW she isn't like other girls, because she's Keri freaking Russell.

You wanna create a truly novel female protagonist? Cast someone looks like an average, ordinary, BMI-25 48 year old woman. I would suggest an actress here but we don't see women like that on American TV, not even reality TV! I'm sure some British soap opera has a couple of likely prospects though.


Not true —

You do know who Toria nuland is right?

If Heidi hightkamp was a Republican, she’d have a senate seat forever

Barb mikulski

Patty Murray

You can be big and frumpy these days and it won’t affect your career as long as other things are in order


Anonymous
We don't expect Diplomats to have a fresh blowout every morning. We DO expect them to have a daily shower and to look pulled together. Intellect doesn't negate a professional appearance.
Anonymous
I liked this show when it was first on Netflix, and am glad that they have finally put up another season…but the gap between Season 1 & 2 has been SO long that I don’t recall the characters and their connections/back stories. That is pretty aggravating.
Anonymous
I was lost as well. But I do like the show.
Anonymous
I was lost last season as well. It’s way too complicated. And she still has greasy, frizzy hair and bad makeup. No clue why they think downplaying her looks adds to the character. I mean, pretty ladies can be smart and serious.

I’m mostly watching it because I’m bored. The Night Agent was a much better show than this overly complicated mess.
Anonymous
I was right about who died last season.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We don't expect Diplomats to have a fresh blowout every morning. We DO expect them to have a daily shower and to look pulled together. Intellect doesn't negate a professional appearance.


Really only the political appointee diplomats have that glossy fresh blowout look (because they are usually wealthy). The career diplomats look like your average slightly nerdy worn government worker in their Sunday best with comfortable footwear. It’s a Pammy Harriman vs. Tori Nuland thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't expect Diplomats to have a fresh blowout every morning. We DO expect them to have a daily shower and to look pulled together. Intellect doesn't negate a professional appearance.


Really only the political appointee diplomats have that glossy fresh blowout look (because they are usually wealthy). The career diplomats look like your average slightly nerdy worn government worker in their Sunday best with comfortable footwear. It’s a Pammy Harriman vs. Tori Nuland thing.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

Tori Nuland has clean and styled hair along with good makeup in these pics (when she was younger and more recently).

Who knew her real last name was Nudelman?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I liked this show when it was first on Netflix, and am glad that they have finally put up another season…but the gap between Season 1 & 2 has been SO long that I don’t recall the characters and their connections/back stories. That is pretty aggravating.


This is, to me, is one of the drawback on the way most interesting shows are launched these days. Happens to me with most shows.
Anonymous
I liked the first season but tried watching the second last night. I was really lost, and not sure if it was the same in the first season or I forgot, but the total lack of hierarchy is sort of bizarre. It's like the aides and the ambassador are just buddy work colleagues on a team, zero decorum, and interactions and dialogue feel wrong. The plot is also just not interesting at all. They should have gone with a totally separate intrigue. I agree the Night Agent was much better.
Anonymous
Nothing about this show makes sense.

Here’s what they should have done:

1. Made Kate look at least as good as the moms at a DC private school or Big Law. Her suits and blouses are good, but she needs to wash her hair and wear makeup (think: a fresh Bobbi Brown face).

2. Play up the heat between Kate and her sexy husband. ICYMI: most women watching this show think that actor is hot. And plenty of us have angry sex with our partners…even when we can’t stand them…and it’s still hot.

3. Zero chance the hot black Brit would be attracted to greasy/frizzy no butt pantsuit lady. None. You can’t have that storyline unless you style Kate.

4. The Asian lady needs more lines. And they need to make her even more of a smartass and more fun (with dry humor).

5. You know a show is way too complicated when you can’t remember any of the names of the characters. And I can’t follow what the PM has done—or allegedly done. It’s a mess.

6. They need more outdoors/background shots. American viewers want to see the foreign cities and cool scenery…especially when there aren’t any fashionable clothes on the screen.

I’m the one who said the Night Agent was better. They checked all the right boxes after starting with a simple premise with plot twists.

Such a missed opportunity.
Anonymous
The show is well written.

I am tired about the overemphasis on women’s appearances, no matter how important her role is (in real life and in social media.) When I listen to Janet Yellen (or listened to Janet Reno), I was not thinking about whether they had good stylists!!

She and her husband have not had hot sex yet thus season, I suspect, because the guy was just discharged from the hospital after having been blown up. As far as whether the Foreign Secretary would be attracted to her…don’t underestimate the sex appeal of power.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The show is well written.

I am tired about the overemphasis on women’s appearances, no matter how important her role is (in real life and in social media.) When I listen to Janet Yellen (or listened to Janet Reno), I was not thinking about whether they had good stylists!!

She and her husband have not had hot sex yet thus season, I suspect, because the guy was just discharged from the hospital after having been blown up. As far as whether the Foreign Secretary would be attracted to her…don’t underestimate the sex appeal of power.


Janet Yellen and Janet Reno always looked very neat, with done hair. On a fictional show, Kristin Scott Thomas on Slow Horses does low sex appeal + professional and poised very well.
Anonymous
https://slate.com/culture/2024/10/the-diplomat-season-2-netflix-keri-russell.html

Slate summed it up with its title about how The Diplomat is back and it still makes no goddamn sense.

^^^
That’s on point and brilliant writing ;0)
Anonymous
This is a great series. If you are new to it, savor the whole thing from Season 1.

And, on the off chance that you are a bald man…take much comfort in how damn sexy that Foreign Secretary is!!😍
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