I want a candidate who is 100% pro-choice BUT pretty anti-immigration & socially conservative

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It feels like 2024 election will come down to voters who are fed up with rising crime and how there is a lot of shoving performative wokeness soundbytes and virtue signaling down their throats from the last few years vs. keeping abortion legal and the abortion pill.

Basically, it will be people who are over whiny progressives who just let crime happen and excuse it out of “fairness” vs.right wing authoritarian religious types who are trying to outlaw women’s rights.

I wish we could get a pro abortion, low to moderately low tax President and congress, who will legalize drugs and prostitution and push for mass transit and high speed trains, but also push things like rebates for electric cars. Also we would still allow for oil drilling in the interim. We also need gun control, so a President that could honestly enact meaningful gun reform laws would be best.

I mean that’s all a pipe dream, because as has been said we are becoming an increasingly polarized nation of regressive evangelical led book banning imbeciles Vs performatively woke cry babies who find a grievance in everything and are too obese or weak willed to serve in the armed forces.

Republicans haven't done anything about rising crime either - crime is way up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Miami, Tulsa and many other places. As for "performative" the right is completely up there with disgusting, whiny and fake performances of their selective outrage du jour, we didn't miss the hilarious face-palm moments like photos of Kid Rock partying with a drag queen that surfaced just days after he shot up cases of Bud Light over LGBT... If only you could take a step back and look at the big picture to understand how much of the right wing rhetoric is completely fake - it's all distractions, because they don't actually have any solutions to offer anyone.

Pp is right that people are fed up with crime and will affect their voting. It will affect both blue and red areas. Why is it either or for you? The politicians are a lot more alike than they are different. Their few differences have to be emphasized but these politicians are 80-95% the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just how pro-choice, OP? On demand up until birth? Euro-style cutoff of 12-14 weeks? @ 20 weeks?

The GOP made their bed and now has to lie in it. They are desperately trying to hold on, but the writing is on the wall. The voters do not want the GOP is selling.

The voters ignored the anti abortion scolds because roe was in place. They never were going to tolerate the end of Roe.

Roe and lack of alternative ideas (eg, on healthcare) are huge issues that will not garner support from independents which both parties need to win.

Look what happened in states like PA in the midterms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope.

Your options are pro-life/Christian Nationalism, or else democrats.

Nope. The options are fascist, speech-policing imbeciles, or else Republicans.
DP

So no choice at all, is what you are saying.

Democrats certainly don't offer a "choice" when it comes to speaking and opinions. There is only your way, or the highway. I'll take the highway, thanks.

Thought you would enjoy this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/12jxgme/its_jack_daniels_turn_to_be_cancelled_by_a/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It feels like 2024 election will come down to voters who are fed up with rising crime and how there is a lot of shoving performative wokeness soundbytes and virtue signaling down their throats from the last few years vs. keeping abortion legal and the abortion pill.

Basically, it will be people who are over whiny progressives who just let crime happen and excuse it out of “fairness” vs.right wing authoritarian religious types who are trying to outlaw women’s rights.

I wish we could get a pro abortion, low to moderately low tax President and congress, who will legalize drugs and prostitution and push for mass transit and high speed trains, but also push things like rebates for electric cars. Also we would still allow for oil drilling in the interim. We also need gun control, so a President that could honestly enact meaningful gun reform laws would be best.

I mean that’s all a pipe dream, because as has been said we are becoming an increasingly polarized nation of regressive evangelical led book banning imbeciles Vs performatively woke cry babies who find a grievance in everything and are too obese or weak willed to serve in the armed forces.

Republicans haven't done anything about rising crime either - crime is way up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Miami, Tulsa and many other places. As for "performative" the right is completely up there with disgusting, whiny and fake performances of their selective outrage du jour, we didn't miss the hilarious face-palm moments like photos of Kid Rock partying with a drag queen that surfaced just days after he shot up cases of Bud Light over LGBT... If only you could take a step back and look at the big picture to understand how much of the right wing rhetoric is completely fake - it's all distractions, because they don't actually have any solutions to offer anyone.

Pp is right that people are fed up with crime and will affect their voting. It will affect both blue and red areas. Why is it either or for you? The politicians are a lot more alike than they are different. Their few differences have to be emphasized but these politicians are 80-95% the same.

The flip they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope.

Your options are pro-life/Christian Nationalism, or else democrats.

Nope. The options are fascist, speech-policing imbeciles, or else Republicans.
DP

So no choice at all, is what you are saying.

Democrats certainly don't offer a "choice" when it comes to speaking and opinions. There is only your way, or the highway. I'll take the highway, thanks.

Thought you would enjoy this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/12jxgme/its_jack_daniels_turn_to_be_cancelled_by_a/

Wow. What did Jack Daniels do?

But I guess if that is the worst thing that happens to the guy than he is badically fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want Bill Clinton?

YES.
- a moderate Republican

Can you even believe the budget was balanced for so many years under him? I can't imagine how we get back to that. It seems hopeless.

It seems so long ago. We’re totally screwed since then in so many ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want a pro-choice (with free & close access to abortions up until birth) but a police state a la Singapore.

Both abortions until birth and police state a la Singapore are too extreme for me. But I can understand the general direction of these sentiments and there seems to be no party that fits. We need a new party, or new parties, and a weighted parliament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It feels like 2024 election will come down to voters who are fed up with rising crime and how there is a lot of shoving performative wokeness soundbytes and virtue signaling down their throats from the last few years vs. keeping abortion legal and the abortion pill.

Basically, it will be people who are over whiny progressives who just let crime happen and excuse it out of “fairness” vs.right wing authoritarian religious types who are trying to outlaw women’s rights.

I wish we could get a pro abortion, low to moderately low tax President and congress, who will legalize drugs and prostitution and push for mass transit and high speed trains, but also push things like rebates for electric cars. Also we would still allow for oil drilling in the interim. We also need gun control, so a President that could honestly enact meaningful gun reform laws would be best.

I mean that’s all a pipe dream, because as has been said we are becoming an increasingly polarized nation of regressive evangelical led book banning imbeciles Vs performatively woke cry babies who find a grievance in everything and are too obese or weak willed to serve in the armed forces.

Republicans haven't done anything about rising crime either - crime is way up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Miami, Tulsa and many other places. As for "performative" the right is completely up there with disgusting, whiny and fake performances of their selective outrage du jour, we didn't miss the hilarious face-palm moments like photos of Kid Rock partying with a drag queen that surfaced just days after he shot up cases of Bud Light over LGBT... If only you could take a step back and look at the big picture to understand how much of the right wing rhetoric is completely fake - it's all distractions, because they don't actually have any solutions to offer anyone.

Pp is right that people are fed up with crime and will affect their voting. It will affect both blue and red areas. Why is it either or for you? The politicians are a lot more alike than they are different. Their few differences have to be emphasized but these politicians are 80-95% the same.

I'm fed up with crime but I'm also fed up with police playing games. They lose 10% of their budget to try and fund mental and social services, and they scream "we've been defunded" and enforcement drops 50% because they want people to go clamoring back to them so that they can go back to business as usual, shooting unarmed black people, throwing elderly people to the ground, no knock warrants and every other abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just how pro-choice, OP? On demand up until birth? Euro-style cutoff of 12-14 weeks? @ 20 weeks?

The GOP made their bed and now has to lie in it. They are desperately trying to hold on, but the writing is on the wall. The voters do not want the GOP is selling.

The voters ignored the anti abortion scolds because roe was in place. They never were going to tolerate the end of Roe.

It won’t matter though, what the voters want, because of our electoral college system. Forever ruled by a minority of sparsely populated states. Even in the reddest states many cities are blue with millions of people. If they truly let the people vote on these laws, things would be so different- see Kansas people vote on abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It feels like 2024 election will come down to voters who are fed up with rising crime and how there is a lot of shoving performative wokeness soundbytes and virtue signaling down their throats from the last few years vs. keeping abortion legal and the abortion pill.

Basically, it will be people who are over whiny progressives who just let crime happen and excuse it out of “fairness” vs.right wing authoritarian religious types who are trying to outlaw women’s rights.

I wish we could get a pro abortion, low to moderately low tax President and congress, who will legalize drugs and prostitution and push for mass transit and high speed trains, but also push things like rebates for electric cars. Also we would still allow for oil drilling in the interim. We also need gun control, so a President that could honestly enact meaningful gun reform laws would be best.

I mean that’s all a pipe dream, because as has been said we are becoming an increasingly polarized nation of regressive evangelical led book banning imbeciles Vs performatively woke cry babies who find a grievance in everything and are too obese or weak willed to serve in the armed forces.

Legalizing drugs and prostitution at the federal level is also a pipe dream because of the 10th amendment.

Jailing people for drugs and prostitution is stupid. Our priority for jailing people should be violent offenders and unrepentant serial offenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want a pro-choice (with free & close access to abortions up until birth) but a police state a la Singapore.

💯

Cameras on every intersection

Drones that electrocute people who are breaking laws, littering, bringing dysfunction

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want a pro-choice (with free & close access to abortions up until birth) but a police state a la Singapore.

Both abortions until birth and police state a la Singapore are too extreme for me. But I can understand the general direction of these sentiments and there seems to be no party that fits. We need a new party, or new parties, and a weighted parliament.

As the country becomes brazilified, whites will start to embrace Asian styles of governance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just how pro-choice, OP? On demand up until birth? Euro-style cutoff of 12-14 weeks? @ 20 weeks?

The GOP made their bed and now has to lie in it. They are desperately trying to hold on, but the writing is on the wall. The voters do not want the GOP is selling.

The voters ignored the anti abortion scolds because roe was in place. They never were going to tolerate the end of Roe.

It won’t matter though, what the voters want, because of our electoral college system. Forever ruled by a minority of sparsely populated states. Even in the reddest states many cities are blue with millions of people. If they truly let the people vote on these laws, things would be so different- see Kansas people vote on abortion.

YES. That is our system. It is the best. No one wants to be ruled by California which is either crazy left or crazy right. It will be crazy right again some day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just how pro-choice, OP? On demand up until birth? Euro-style cutoff of 12-14 weeks? @ 20 weeks?

The GOP made their bed and now has to lie in it. They are desperately trying to hold on, but the writing is on the wall. The voters do not want the GOP is selling.

The voters ignored the anti abortion scolds because roe was in place. They never were going to tolerate the end of Roe.

It won’t matter though, what the voters want, because of our electoral college system. Forever ruled by a minority of sparsely populated states. Even in the reddest states many cities are blue with millions of people. If they truly let the people vote on these laws, things would be so different- see Kansas people vote on abortion.

It still matters. Biden whooped the con man even with such a system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It feels like 2024 election will come down to voters who are fed up with rising crime and how there is a lot of shoving performative wokeness soundbytes and virtue signaling down their throats from the last few years vs. keeping abortion legal and the abortion pill.

Basically, it will be people who are over whiny progressives who just let crime happen and excuse it out of “fairness” vs.right wing authoritarian religious types who are trying to outlaw women’s rights.

I wish we could get a pro abortion, low to moderately low tax President and congress, who will legalize drugs and prostitution and push for mass transit and high speed trains, but also push things like rebates for electric cars. Also we would still allow for oil drilling in the interim. We also need gun control, so a President that could honestly enact meaningful gun reform laws would be best.

I mean that’s all a pipe dream, because as has been said we are becoming an increasingly polarized nation of regressive evangelical led book banning imbeciles Vs performatively woke cry babies who find a grievance in everything and are too obese or weak willed to serve in the armed forces.

Republicans haven't done anything about rising crime either - crime is way up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Miami, Tulsa and many other places. As for "performative" the right is completely up there with disgusting, whiny and fake performances of their selective outrage du jour, we didn't miss the hilarious face-palm moments like photos of Kid Rock partying with a drag queen that surfaced just days after he shot up cases of Bud Light over LGBT... If only you could take a step back and look at the big picture to understand how much of the right wing rhetoric is completely fake - it's all distractions, because they don't actually have any solutions to offer anyone.

Pp is right that people are fed up with crime and will affect their voting. It will affect both blue and red areas. Why is it either or for you? The politicians are a lot more alike than they are different. Their few differences have to be emphasized but these politicians are 80-95% the same.

I'm fed up with crime but I'm also fed up with police playing games. They lose 10% of their budget to try and fund mental and social services, and they scream "we've been defunded" and enforcement drops 50% because they want people to go clamoring back to them so that they can go back to business as usual, shooting unarmed black people, throwing elderly people to the ground, no knock warrants and every other abuse.

🙄 Right, because that’s how the majority of police behave.