Massive pentagon leak re Ukraine conflict

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Anonymous wrote:Per the NYTs, these documents would’ve only been viewable in a SCIF. And phones & cameras are banned from SCIFs.

So how did a camera get inside a SCIF?

My money is that this leak is from someone inside Congress

Oh, FFS. Someone in Congress did not leak this.

Perhaps if leaks had been taken more seriously in the past, this crap would not be happening.

People have been leaking stuff for a while now, and very rarely suffer any ramifications.

Republican congressmen showed during the first impeachment that they have no respect for SCIFs.

Exactly. And everyone I know who works in SCIFs is under strict rules about phones and cameras.

I will snicker a little when we find that this leak was from some far-left Democrat trying to impress his friends.

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He’s a “young, charismatic gun enthusiast.”

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Washington Post reporters got hold of members of the Discord channel where the leaks were posted, they know the poster, and said he is in his 20s, currently serving in the military, conservative, gun enthusiast, and he got the documents from a military base that he serves on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/

Will probably get caught very soon.

Where in the posted article did they say he was "conservative?" Or, serving in the military? Citation needed.

Literally the first lines of the linked article. Jesus.

Copy and paste them here.

Here's a gift link to the article - https://wapo.st/400q5B6

The teen who gave the interview in the article is in a world of hurt. I hope he gets a lawyer.

Copy and past the part where pp here claimed he is "conservative" and "serving in the military."

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“But OG had a dark view of the government. The young member said he spoke of the United States, and particularly law enforcement and the intelligence community, as a sinister force that sought to suppress its citizens and keep them in the dark. He ranted about “government overreach.”

Sure sounds like a liberal to me!! Nothing specific about being actual military but he clearly was a gun nutter conservative that worked at a secure military location.

We get that. But instead of making this into a right vs left fight, which is so predictable and boring, it's best to be specific. And I'm a lefty, so I'm not trying to hide this man's obvious ties to guns and religion. I think if he was spewing MAGA bull, the teen would have reported that to WaPo. He sounds libertarian if anything, actually. Angry about government overreach, wants freedom to carry, etc.

No he is a trump support and this is what one should expect from republicans.

So typically DCUM. Lie about what the article says. Make some huge unfounded assumptions. Then, state them as fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Notice how quickly the FBI was on this, as compared to all of the allowances for Trump, who has been sharing stolen secrets with our enemies?

Just stop spreading your fantasies.

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Anonymous wrote:Per the NYTs, these documents would’ve only been viewable in a SCIF. And phones & cameras are banned from SCIFs.

So how did a camera get inside a SCIF?

My money is that this leak is from someone inside Congress

Oh, FFS. Someone in Congress did not leak this.

Perhaps if leaks had been taken more seriously in the past, this crap would not be happening.

People have been leaking stuff for a while now, and very rarely suffer any ramifications.

Republican congressmen showed during the first impeachment that they have no respect for SCIFs.

Exactly. And everyone I know who works in SCIFs is under strict rules about phones and cameras.

I will snicker a little when we find that this leak was from some far-left Democrat trying to impress his friends.

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He’s a “young, charismatic gun enthusiast.”

+1

Washington Post reporters got hold of members of the Discord channel where the leaks were posted, they know the poster, and said he is in his 20s, currently serving in the military, conservative, gun enthusiast, and he got the documents from a military base that he serves on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/

Will probably get caught very soon.

Where in the posted article did they say he was "conservative?" Or, serving in the military? Citation needed.

Literally the first lines of the linked article. Jesus.

Copy and paste them here.

Here's a gift link to the article - https://wapo.st/400q5B6

The teen who gave the interview in the article is in a world of hurt. I hope he gets a lawyer.

Copy and past the part where pp here claimed he is "conservative" and "serving in the military."

DP here
“But OG had a dark view of the government. The young member said he spoke of the United States, and particularly law enforcement and the intelligence community, as a sinister force that sought to suppress its citizens and keep them in the dark. He ranted about “government overreach.”

Sure sounds like a liberal to me!! Nothing specific about being actual military but he clearly was a gun nutter conservative that worked at a secure military location.

We get that. But instead of making this into a right vs left fight, which is so predictable and boring, it's best to be specific. And I'm a lefty, so I'm not trying to hide this man's obvious ties to guns and religion. I think if he was spewing MAGA bull, the teen would have reported that to WaPo. He sounds libertarian if anything, actually. Angry about government overreach, wants freedom to carry, etc.

No he is a trump support and this is what one should expect from republicans.

So typically DCUM. Lie about what the article says. Make some huge unfounded assumptions. Then, state them as fact.

Go back and read today's post at 8:16 where the poster summarized what the WaPo said.
Then, read the link provided.
The person who made the post made some assumptions and incorrectly summarized the article.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

Snowden was not a whistleblower. Whisitleblowers do not work with enemies of the state like Assange and then end up under the protectorate of Moscow.

I hear you, but I still think his motivations were pure to begin with. Then he got scared of the consequences, which are terribly harsh, unless you're a former Pres, and he picked a really bad option. I feel sorry for him and his mother, something I don't feel at all for this guy, who clearly had no ethical considerations whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this young kid FAAFO and likely ruined the next 45-65 years of his life.

I hope he serves a nice long sentence if he is indeed guilty.

But, let's remember what he and others in the US have seen.....
Chelsea Manning was convicted of 17 charges, sentenced to 35 years, and the sentence was commuted by Obama after 7 years.
Until we start cracking down on serious breaches like this, they will continue to occur.
Wannabe leakers are going to continue to leak if they think they won't be severely punished.

Sorry, but 35 years commuted to 7 seems very long for a non-violent crime!

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Personally, I believe “whistleblower” was just cover. Snowden was a traitor. You don’t run to Russia to hide if you care about repressive governments. What a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I believe “whistleblower” was just cover. Snowden was a traitor. You don’t run to Russia to hide if you care about repressive governments. What a joke.

You do if you feel cornered by a state that wants to shut you away for most of your life when you wanted the world to know certain of its intelligence gathering methods.
It was a terribly choice to make, but the alternative wasn't great either.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this young kid FAAFO and likely ruined the next 45-65 years of his life.

I hope he serves a nice long sentence if he is indeed guilty.

But, let's remember what he and others in the US have seen.....
Chelsea Manning was convicted of 17 charges, sentenced to 35 years, and the sentence was commuted by Obama after 7 years.
Until we start cracking down on serious breaches like this, they will continue to occur.
Wannabe leakers are going to continue to leak if they think they won't be severely punished.

Chelsea got off east because she is trans and Obama showed special leniency because of it.

Not an excuse for leniency.

It was only part of the reason, but it was definitely a reason. Let's not kid ourselves.

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Charged under the Espionage Act. What an idiot. He's going to regret this for the rest of his life.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this young kid FAAFO and likely ruined the next 45-65 years of his life.

I hope he serves a nice long sentence if he is indeed guilty.

But, let's remember what he and others in the US have seen.....
Chelsea Manning was convicted of 17 charges, sentenced to 35 years, and the sentence was commuted by Obama after 7 years.
Until we start cracking down on serious breaches like this, they will continue to occur.
Wannabe leakers are going to continue to leak if they think they won't be severely punished.

Sorry, but 35 years commuted to 7 seems very long for a non-violent crime!

And, this is the mindset that will result in more leakers and more lawbreakers.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this young kid FAAFO and likely ruined the next 45-65 years of his life.

I hope he serves a nice long sentence if he is indeed guilty.

But, let's remember what he and others in the US have seen.....
Chelsea Manning was convicted of 17 charges, sentenced to 35 years, and the sentence was commuted by Obama after 7 years.
Until we start cracking down on serious breaches like this, they will continue to occur.
Wannabe leakers are going to continue to leak if they think they won't be severely punished.

Chelsea got off east because she is trans and Obama showed special leniency because of it.

Go fck yourself.

Truth hurts I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

Snowden was not a whistleblower. Whisitleblowers do not work with enemies of the state like Assange and then end up under the protectorate of Moscow.

Assange is not an enemy of the state. It's actually pretty brazen he's being tried at all.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

Snowden was not a whistleblower. Whisitleblowers do not work with enemies of the state like Assange and then end up under the protectorate of Moscow.

Yes, we're all about cheerfully submitting to surveillance but god forbid someone says it out loud.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

Snowden was not a whistleblower. Whisitleblowers do not work with enemies of the state like Assange and then end up under the protectorate of Moscow.

Assange is not an enemy of the state. It's actually pretty brazen he's being tried at all.

Your data is out of date. Dude is not a white knight.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

Snowden was not a whistleblower. Whisitleblowers do not work with enemies of the state like Assange and then end up under the protectorate of Moscow.

Assange is not an enemy of the state. It's actually pretty brazen he's being tried at all.

Your data is out of date. Dude is not a white knight.

He's not. But some of us know how to distinguish his intelligence leaks from the rest of his life. I would argue that its the severity of the sentences that push these people into the arms of our enemies. There needs to be some middle ground between being complicit in problematic surveillance by the state and not ever telling the public...and being treated as a traitor and sent to prison for life.

But this conversation is neither here not there with this new guy, who leaked intelligence only to impress teens, apparently. Boy is he stupid. There is no leavening of a greater ethical vision, here.