Massive pentagon leak re Ukraine conflict

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Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”

The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?

And what does that tell you instinctively?

I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???

I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”

The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?

And what does that tell you instinctively?

I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???

I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.

No, dear, it doesn't. Now go run along and troll somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

No, this sounds like a braggy uoung right wing gun lover who wanted to impress his online friends.

[Anonymous]

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I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

The police ran roughshod over constitutional rights just searching every house. This was working class Watertown, and I wonder whether they would have tried this in Newton.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

We don’t really know what his motives were yet. But he appears to have used cult leader tactics to operationalize a group of kids.

A guy who desperately needs to feel important in some area of his life. Creating a small world/server where he controls who is in and who is out, then trying to show off how smart and "inside" he is. It all is a sad story of a guy who has a tiny self-esteem. Goes right along with the whole "big gun machismo" look.

[Anonymous]

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Charged under the Espionage Act. What an idiot. He's going to regret this for the rest of his life.

Dude is completely f—ked

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”

The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?

And what does that tell you instinctively?

I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???

I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.

No, you should read the excellent WaPo article done with one of the minors on his server. There are plenty of details about how this man wanted to educate and prepare his group for what was really going on in the world, but nothing about a wish to disseminate this info to a wider audience. Surely any wish to disclose intel to the public would have been apparent to the teen who thought of him as his best friend, and who declined to name him until his capture. This is just an idiot who sought to control a small group of impressionable teens to make himself feel important. Very, very stupid to play with classified docs like this, just for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

Snowden was not a whistleblower. Whisitleblowers do not work with enemies of the state like Assange and then end up under the protectorate of Moscow.

Assange is not an enemy of the state. It's actually pretty brazen he's being tried at all.

Your data is out of date. Dude is not a white knight.

He's not. But some of us know how to distinguish his intelligence leaks from the rest of his life. I would argue that its the severity of the sentences that push these people into the arms of our enemies. There needs to be some middle ground between being complicit in problematic surveillance by the state and not ever telling the public...and being treated as a traitor and sent to prison for life.

But this conversation is neither here not there with this new guy, who leaked intelligence only to impress teens, apparently. Boy is he stupid. There is no leavening of a greater ethical vision, here.

I'm not talking about the rapes. I'm referring to his role in 2016.

Reality Winner on the other hand had good intentions. Even Chelsea Manning had some ethical saving graces. The idea of Assange was unfortunately different than the reality of him.

This guy though was just chasing internet clout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WaPo is reporting that Jack Teixeira is an IT tech, which would explain how he had access to the docs.

He’s like a low-rent Snowden. Except he wasn’t making that big contractor money.

What’s shocking is that flags were not auto-triggered when an IT tech in the national guard was accessing & printing these files. The content in these documents have nothing to do with his job. And why do SCIFs have printers?!? That’s gotta go too.

No. Snowden was a whistleblower. This guy is a cult leader. Very different aspirations and ethics.

We don’t really know what his motives were yet. But he appears to have used cult leader tactics to operationalize a group of kids.

A guy who desperately needs to feel important in some area of his life. Creating a small world/server where he controls who is in and who is out, then trying to show off how smart and "inside" he is. It all is a sad story of a guy who has a tiny self-esteem. Goes right along with the whole "big gun machismo" look.

Sure. But I wonder if he was a target? Or if he just did this himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”

The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?

And what does that tell you instinctively?

I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???

I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.

No, you should read the excellent WaPo article done with one of the minors on his server. There are plenty of details about how this man wanted to educate and prepare his group for what was really going on in the world, but nothing about a wish to disseminate this info to a wider audience. Surely any wish to disclose intel to the public would have been apparent to the teen who thought of him as his best friend, and who declined to name him until his capture. This is just an idiot who sought to control a small group of impressionable teens to make himself feel important. Very, very stupid to play with classified docs like this, just for that.

NP. Just imagine how impressed they are now that they and their families have been involved in all of this!

[Anonymous]

Waiting for the pardon like Chelsea Manning got for the same thing... Don't mess with the Deep State, especially when it's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

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Charged under the Espionage Act. What an idiot. He's going to regret this for the rest of his life.

Dude is completely f—ked

Any good lawyer will have those charges thrown out. Trump is still running around free and he still has top secret documents scattered through his many homes. Why should this guy be treated differently?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waiting for the pardon like Chelsea Manning got for the same thing... Don't mess with the Deep State, especially when it's embarrassing.

Oh the MAGA FBI will make “mistakes” and kick him free. MAGA watches out for their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”

The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?

And what does that tell you instinctively?

I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???

I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.

1) he wasn't whistleblowing
2) if this was an attempt at it, he failed miserably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Charged under the Espionage Act. What an idiot. He's going to regret this for the rest of his life.

Dude is completely f—ked

Any good lawyer will have those charges thrown out. Trump is still running around free and he still has top secret documents scattered through his many homes. Why should this guy be treated differently?

Well yes, that’s a good point! Maybe it’s time to make things fair.