Hamilton or Wesleyan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

There’s elite and then there’s good. Wesleyan is a good school, but it’s not elite. WASP and Mudd are elite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

There’s elite and then there’s good. Wesleyan is a good school, but it’s not elite. WASP and Mudd are elite.

What's the cutoff between good and elite? What makes WASP and Mudd elite? According to the current rankings, Mudd is 12, Wes is 14 out of 211 ranked Liberal Arts colleges and universities. So I guess you think the line is 13?
This is just silly. Find a school that you like, has the academic, social, and athletic programs you like, and feel is a good fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

There’s elite and then there’s good. Wesleyan is a good school, but it’s not elite. WASP and Mudd are elite.

What's the cutoff between good and elite? What makes WASP and Mudd elite? According to the current rankings, Mudd is 12, Wes is 14 out of 211 ranked Liberal Arts colleges and universities. So I guess you think the line is 13?
This is just silly. Find a school that you like, has the academic, social, and athletic programs you like, and feel is a good fit.

It’s not about rankings, you’re the one OBSESSED with rankings. It’s the fact that Mudd is elite in its stem offerings and outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Neither!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan still way more prestigious and famous nationwide. I can’t name 1 famous Hamilton alumni (Peter Falk?) while Wesleyan has dozens.
So sad Ham claims Tony Goldwyn, who left after 1 year….

Clearly, this can't be a serious post. Just to play along, however, here are some notable Hamilton College grads. Actual list is far too long to post here.

- Marc Randolph: Founder and CEO of Netflix
- David Solomon: CEO of Goldman Sachs
- A.G. Lafley: CEO of Procter & Gamble
- Dan Nye: Former CEO of LinkedIn
- Stephen Sadove: CEO of Saks
- B.F. Skinner
- William Bristol: Co-founder of Bristol Myers Squibb
- John Myers: Co-founder of Bristol Myers Squibb
- J. Carter Bacot: Former Chairman and CEO of Bank of New York
- Elihu Root: United States Secretary of State and recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize
- James Sherman: United States Vice President under Taft
- Henry Allen: Pulitzer Prize winner
- Ezra Pound
- William Masters
- Peter Falk
- Tony Goldwyn
- Paul Lieberstein
- Sarah Rafferty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

There’s elite and then there’s good. Wesleyan is a good school, but it’s not elite. WASP and Mudd are elite.

What's the cutoff between good and elite? What makes WASP and Mudd elite? According to the current rankings, Mudd is 12, Wes is 14 out of 211 ranked Liberal Arts colleges and universities. So I guess you think the line is 13?
This is just silly. Find a school that you like, has the academic, social, and athletic programs you like, and feel is a good fit.

It’s not about rankings, you’re the one OBSESSED with rankings. It’s the fact that Mudd is elite in its stem offerings and outcomes.

Actually, I'm not obsessed with rankings, although many on DCUM are. Rather, I was just trying to understand your contention about good vs elite, and used available data to frame the discussion. If you would rather use some other data set, that is fine by me (because you are talking about STEM, I assume solid data would be important, rather than just assertions about offerings and outcomes). But, we are really beyond splitting hairs here. Wesleyan, Mudd, WASP, and Hamilton are all exceptional, some might even say all are elite, schools with outstanding reputations across a diverse career set. And back to the original question of the thread, I don't think you can go wrong with either Hamilton or Wesleyan. Which school has the best fit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

Don’t feed the trolls. This discussion jumped the shark days ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since 2010, the average rank of Wesleyan has been 19. It is not a serious or elite school.

Everyone is completely unhinged.

According to USNews, there are/were 3,982 degree granting universities and colleges in 2019/2020 academic year. USNews included 1,452 of them in the 2021 rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing

Therefore, Wesleyan is either in the top 0.4% or 1.3% of all degree granting universities.
What counts as serious or elite?

I'm not defending Wesleyan, Hamilton, or any other school. You can apply the same math to any school often discussed here on DCUM. We aren't even splitting hairs here. This silly argument is about differences at the subatomic level.

Agree. These kids of threads are so puzzling. Each of my kids had these schools on the list and each chose a school they also liked, but more for whatever individual reasons they had. The schools they chose aren't even discussed on here. But they loved their choices and have happy successful lives. The angst and hair splitting here is so strange to me.

[Anonymous]

Both great schools.

[Anonymous]

Just a data point re: Wes and physics (since some are asking about their strengths): They've won two which is as many as Harvard. While Williams has 6, Wesleyan competes against R1 universities while Williams is up against undergrad institutions only:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeRoy_Apker_Award

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/how-is-wesleyans-physics-program/2050382

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both great schools.

+1
You people are nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just a data point re: Wes and physics (since some are asking about their strengths): They've won two which is as many as Harvard. While Williams has 6, Wesleyan competes against R1 universities while Williams is up against undergrad institutions only:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeRoy_Apker_Award

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/how-is-wesleyans-physics-program/2050382

I don’t see one as more impressive than the other. Their competition basically all have the same stats. Williams clearly is better at achieving the apker award.