NYT Opinion Piece: This Isn’t What Millennial Middle Age Was Supposed To Look Like

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Anonymous wrote:I want an answer to this question: when has there every been a better time for women, minorities and people are LGBTQ? I’ll wait.

During the Obama years. I mean, we’ve gone backwards. The anti gay hate. The loss of the right to an abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:I want an answer to this question: when has there every been a better time for women, minorities and people are LGBTQ? I’ll wait.

Before colonialism and the global spread of Christianity?

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Anonymous wrote:$15/hr PT is barely enough money for a teenager to cover extra curriculars and gas, let alone rent and food for a family.

They call it minimum wage for a reason. Who told you you should be able to afford rent and food for a family and non-public education on minimum wage?

Minimum wage is working poor/poverty level and it always has been.

Get some education get some skills.

FDR: https://publicpolicy.pepperdine.edu/blog/posts/what-did-fdr-mean-by-a-living-wage.htm

This is a different issue. What you’re describing is the evaporation of low skilled middle class manufacturing jobs, not minimum wage. OP seems to think they should be able to afford a nice lifestyle on minimum wage. The other thing that really hampers people who live in places like the rust belt and New England where manufacturing jobs have died out, is that they are often unwilling to relocate or retool to get different middle class jobs. Hence the high rates of alcoholism and opiate use in these areas. They are so deeply attached to community and geography at the expense of their survival.

It’s actually the same issue. The people who would’ve been working those low skilled middle class manufacturing jobs, if those jobs were in existence today, are the same people working the cash register at Walmart or McDonald’s. Because, as you stated, those manufacturing jobs have evaporated.

There are still low skill jobs that pay a lot of money but people aren’t willing to do the hard work it takes to get those wages and benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and I am NOT middle aged. F off.

If you go by the median age of death in US you most certainly are

Middle age starts at 36. The average lifespan in the United States is 72 years old. 36 + 36 = 72

You are almost middle aged right now. Wake up.

No, the average life expectancy of an American woman is 80. Add to it the fact that I’m white (it’s unfortunate that race makes a difference but it does), financially secure, and in good health with a good family history, then it’s probably higher. Of course sh happens and I could die tomorrow. Middle age mathematically is at least 40.
But biologically and culturally, middle age is associated with things like menopause and other physical changes. Which is generally not in your 30s. And I have perky breasts and a flat stomach and firm legs so…. Nope, not middle aged.

None of this has anything to do with middle age.

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Anonymous wrote:$15/hr PT is barely enough money for a teenager to cover extra curriculars and gas, let alone rent and food for a family.

They call it minimum wage for a reason. Who told you you should be able to afford rent and food for a family and non-public education on minimum wage?

Minimum wage is working poor/poverty level and it always has been.

Get some education get some skills.

FDR: https://publicpolicy.pepperdine.edu/blog/posts/what-did-fdr-mean-by-a-living-wage.htm

This is a different issue. What you’re describing is the evaporation of low skilled middle class manufacturing jobs, not minimum wage. OP seems to think they should be able to afford a nice lifestyle on minimum wage. The other thing that really hampers people who live in places like the rust belt and New England where manufacturing jobs have died out, is that they are often unwilling to relocate or retool to get different middle class jobs. Hence the high rates of alcoholism and opiate use in these areas. They are so deeply attached to community and geography at the expense of their survival.

Jesus Christ. I bet you’re still sitting there twiddling your thumbs, wondering why Trump won.

I agree this is partially related to millennials' discontent, but I think I wouldn't be as generous as you. Some people feel entitled to the good life because of their parents' and grandparents' hard work.

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Anonymous wrote:$15/hr PT is barely enough money for a teenager to cover extra curriculars and gas, let alone rent and food for a family.

They call it minimum wage for a reason. Who told you you should be able to afford rent and food for a family and non-public education on minimum wage?

Minimum wage is working poor/poverty level and it always has been.

Get some education get some skills.

FDR: https://publicpolicy.pepperdine.edu/blog/posts/what-did-fdr-mean-by-a-living-wage.htm

This is a different issue. What you’re describing is the evaporation of low skilled middle class manufacturing jobs, not minimum wage. OP seems to think they should be able to afford a nice lifestyle on minimum wage. The other thing that really hampers people who live in places like the rust belt and New England where manufacturing jobs have died out, is that they are often unwilling to relocate or retool to get different middle class jobs. Hence the high rates of alcoholism and opiate use in these areas. They are so deeply attached to community and geography at the expense of their survival.

It’s actually the same issue. The people who would’ve been working those low skilled middle class manufacturing jobs, if those jobs were in existence today, are the same people working the cash register at Walmart or McDonald’s. Because, as you stated, those manufacturing jobs have evaporated.

There are still low skill jobs that pay a lot of money but people aren’t willing to do the hard work it takes to get those wages and benefits.

It’s not an individual laziness issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want an answer to this question: when has there every been a better time for women, minorities and people are LGBTQ? I’ll wait.

During the Obama years. I mean, we’ve gone backwards. The anti gay hate. The loss of the right to an abortion.

ICYMI: Obama was a fan of gay marriage. Took him some time to change his tune. He waited for society to pass him by and then pretended like he was always on board in a milquetoast way.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and I am NOT middle aged. F off.

If you go by the median age of death in US you most certainly are

Middle age starts at 36. The average lifespan in the United States is 72 years old. 36 + 36 = 72

You are almost middle aged right now. Wake up.

Sorry, people in their 30s are not middle aged. You are being a bit myopic and stubborn about this for some weird reason.

Uh by the time you are over 35 you are by definition entering middle age. Middle age is 35-55.

So now 35 is middle age? In your next post, you will say it is 30! Why can’t you just accept that most of society considers it to be over 40? It is does necessarily begin at half the age of the average life span. Why do you insist on arguing that people in their 30s are old? So weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and I am NOT middle aged. F off.

If you go by the median age of death in US you most certainly are

Middle age starts at 36. The average lifespan in the United States is 72 years old. 36 + 36 = 72

You are almost middle aged right now. Wake up.

Sorry, people in their 30s are not middle aged. You are being a bit myopic and stubborn about this for some weird reason.

Uh by the time you are over 35 you are by definition entering middle age. Middle age is 35-55.

So now 35 is middle age? In your next post, you will say it is 30! Why can’t you just accept that most of society considers it to be over 40? It is does necessarily begin at half the age of the average life span. Why do you insist on arguing that people in their 30s are old? So weird.

Whoever keeps arguing about this is an idiot. There is no official global definition of "middle age" just like there is no official global definition of "middle class." Several recent polls suggest that *many* people think middle age is roughly the period between 45-65. However, other polls say that older millennials already feel "middle age" in their late 30s. The definition of what middle age is has been shifting up over time. Since this board is full of a bunch of boomers they probably still think of middle age as starting at 35, which it probably did for their lead poisoned, asbestos coated brains

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want an answer to this question: when has there every been a better time for women, minorities and people are LGBTQ? I’ll wait.

During the Obama years. I mean, we’ve gone backwards. The anti gay hate. The loss of the right to an abortion.

ICYMI: Obama was a fan of gay marriage. Took him some time to change his tune. He waited for society to pass him by and then pretended like he was always on board in a milquetoast way.

Typo: meant to say he was NOT a fan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want an answer to this question: when has there every been a better time for women, minorities and people are LGBTQ? I’ll wait.

During the Obama years. I mean, we’ve gone backwards. The anti gay hate. The loss of the right to an abortion.

ICYMI: Obama was a fan of gay marriage. Took him some time to change his tune. He waited for society to pass him by and then pretended like he was always on board in a milquetoast way.

The people's party and its members have always been in favor of insert-policy-here, fellow citizen. They support it now and always have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and I am NOT middle aged. F off.

If you go by the median age of death in US you most certainly are

Middle age starts at 36. The average lifespan in the United States is 72 years old. 36 + 36 = 72

You are almost middle aged right now. Wake up.

Sorry, people in their 30s are not middle aged. You are being a bit myopic and stubborn about this for some weird reason.

Uh by the time you are over 35 you are by definition entering middle age. Middle age is 35-55.

So now 35 is middle age? In your next post, you will say it is 30! Why can’t you just accept that most of society considers it to be over 40? It is does necessarily begin at half the age of the average life span. Why do you insist on arguing that people in their 30s are old? So weird.

American Psychological Society defines it at 36, pretty common to be that range. 40 is too late.

https://dictionary.apa.org/adulthood

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7203662/

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Anonymous wrote:Well, at least Millennials didn't have to deal with the kind of violent crime that GenX dealt with as young adults. It's like 50% of what it used to be.

Well now we just live in fear that some madman with a gun will shoot up our grocery store, or elementary school, or concert, or or or…

Yeah because we didn't grow up with Son of Sam, the Unabomber, the Oklahoma City bombing, the World Trade Center (hello? 9/11), shall I continue?

I mean, I’m 36 and remember the OKC bombing, definitely remember 9/11, got boned by graduating in 2008, etc. you didn’t have it harder as a Gen X.

I’m not saying GenX had it harder. I’m saying millennials are not uniquely disadvantaged. They are just uniquely spoiled.

No one asked Genx , they can go away with the boomers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want an answer to this question: when has there every been a better time for women, minorities and people are LGBTQ? I’ll wait.

Before colonialism and the global spread of Christianity?

Most practicing Christians these days aren't white and what makes you think the world was a more peaceful and kinder place before either Christianity or European colonialism? Pretty glad I wasn't alive during the rampages of the Mongol hordes or the never ending conflicts between Sunnis and Shias, or a Chinese peasant, or any peasant actually.

Times have never been better for people than today and I mean right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and I am NOT middle aged. F off.

If you go by the median age of death in US you most certainly are

Middle age starts at 36. The average lifespan in the United States is 72 years old. 36 + 36 = 72

You are almost middle aged right now. Wake up.

Sorry, people in their 30s are not middle aged. You are being a bit myopic and stubborn about this for some weird reason.

Uh by the time you are over 35 you are by definition entering middle age. Middle age is 35-55.

So now 35 is middle age? In your next post, you will say it is 30! Why can’t you just accept that most of society considers it to be over 40? It is does necessarily begin at half the age of the average life span. Why do you insist on arguing that people in their 30s are old? So weird.

American Psychological Society defines it at 36, pretty common to be that range. 40 is too late.

https://dictionary.apa.org/adulthood

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7203662/

You just won’t quit, will you? It doesn’t matter what a bunch of eggheads wrote in 1950. Most people consider it to be in the 40s.