Elrich property tax increase

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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He has some ability.

When MCPS puts in their annual budget request (always well beyond Maintenance of effort, and beyond what Elrich has already proposed) he could at least counter publicly that he believes the budget is extremely well funded and focuses on the students and staff. And that the insane growth of admin and central office concerns him- and his priorities will always be with the students, teachers and staff. I imagine that would play quite well actually.


And the actual effect of this would be: nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He has some ability.

When MCPS puts in their annual budget request (always well beyond Maintenance of effort, and beyond what Elrich has already proposed) he could at least counter publicly that he believes the budget is extremely well funded and focuses on the students and staff. And that the insane growth of admin and central office concerns him- and his priorities will always be with the students, teachers and staff. I imagine that would play quite well actually.


And the actual effect of this would be: nothing.


The pp is just looking for any reason whatsoever to malign Elrich.
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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.
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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He has some ability.

When MCPS puts in their annual budget request (always well beyond Maintenance of effort, and beyond what Elrich has already proposed) he could at least counter publicly that he believes the budget is extremely well funded and focuses on the students and staff. And that the insane growth of admin and central office concerns him- and his priorities will always be with the students, teachers and staff. I imagine that would play quite well actually.


And the actual effect of this would be: nothing.


The pp is just looking for any reason whatsoever to malign Elrich.


No, I really was not at all. I was pointing out that he does have a pulpit of sorts to push back- if he so chose to.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.
Anonymous
This is what happens when you hitting a tipping point and need to pay for all the overcrowded schools and loss of teachers and staff. Eventually you need more money, and what better place than the sitting duck homeowners.
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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you hitting a tipping point and need to pay for all the overcrowded schools and loss of teachers and staff. Eventually you need more money, and what better place than the sitting duck homeowners.


And the multifamily landlords whose revenue is about to be capped.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Oh yes, underfunding MCPS, what a politically popular idea!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Oh yes, underfunding MCPS, what a politically popular idea!


Who says it is underfunding? They have to meet the Maintenance of Effort minimum, which will be slightly more than last year because enrollment is up. MCPS can work within that amount to find efficiencies.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Oh yes, underfunding MCPS, what a politically popular idea!


They could fund MCPS as much as they wanted but they might have to cut back on their nonsense. MCPS also hasn’t yet shown it needs more money.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Oh yes, underfunding MCPS, what a politically popular idea!


Who says it is underfunding? They have to meet the Maintenance of Effort minimum, which will be slightly more than last year because enrollment is up. MCPS can work within that amount to find efficiencies.


The voters.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Yep and run the council out of town!
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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Oh yes, underfunding MCPS, what a politically popular idea!


They could fund MCPS as much as they wanted but they might have to cut back on their nonsense. MCPS also hasn’t yet shown it needs more money.


I wouldn't give them a penny more until they cut back on all the central office overhead. It's gotten out of control.
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Anonymous wrote:I think most people are for paying teachers well. MCPS does pay its teachers well, but I think many people would still be OK with a raise.

But the central office and admin growth has been unreal, and no one has ever called him (Elrich), or MCPS out about this.


I hope there's a successful legal challenge to his attempt to use this loophole. You can't just keep raising taxes on residents. There's no effort to reign in rampant malfeasance in MCPS or the runaway growth of Central Office jobs. Also, he isn't doing more to grow the economic base but instead just throws up his hands and causes harm to the county's future with his irresponsible tax and spend policy. Wish we could recall him.


The frustrating part to me is this 10% tax hike is explicitly being stated as "because of inflation".

OK, thats true! It's a real thing, for sure. But to treat the county taxpayers as an endless ATM as if we are also not personally affected by said inflation in basically every cost- is just so insulting.


Property values have increased because of this inflation, granting them comparable tax revenue increases so a hike is unnecessary. Further, the problem is that Elrich has no interest in addressing MCPS's irresponsible spending on foolish initiatives and their endless hiring of more Central Office administrators.


Assuming that this is the problem - Elrich has no authority or ability to do this.


He does have the authority to tell them to set a budget and force them to make some tough choices. If they stopped wasting money on overhead and silly studies, there'd be plenty left for other things.


He has the authority to say anything he wants. And so do I, a random anonymous poster on DCUM. And they will listen just as much to me as they do to him.


He has the authority to recommend a budget that funds MCPS at maintenance of effort levels and nothing more. The council has the authority to pass a budget that does the same thing. They don’t have to fund MCPS at this requested level.

If they pull this nonsense with anything other than a unanimous vote, the next step should be a spending cap in the charter and lawsuits from property owners because the state loophole doesn’t even apply to our charter.


Oh yes, underfunding MCPS, what a politically popular idea!


They could fund MCPS as much as they wanted but they might have to cut back on their nonsense. MCPS also hasn’t yet shown it needs more money.


I wouldn't give them a penny more until they cut back on all the central office overhead. It's gotten out of control.


Then you need to get yourself elected to the County Council.
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