Bombshell: NYT story suggests Alito is the leaker of Dobbs decision

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

And before that it seemed like they had been leaked to.

“Yet, other parts of the editorial left me concerned. Indeed, while reading the piece, I had flashbacks to NFIB v. Sebelius and Bostock. In both cases, rumors began to swirl that a conservative Justice was going to vote with the left. And, in both cases, there was a sustained public relations campaign on the right to shore up the wavering Justice. And, in neither case did those efforts work. I wrote about the Obamacare leaks in my first book, Unprecedented, and I wrote about potential leaks in Bostock here. Back to the present.

The WSJ editorial on Dobbs begins with a lengthy discussion of a "ferocious lobbying campaign." But there is nothing new here. Really, there is a hodgepodge of agitations from pro-choice groups. We are five months from oral arguments. Why write something now? As I read the first few paragraphs, I thought, okay they are setting up something far more important. Then we get to a section break with three asterisks. The editorial sketches out, at a very high level, what is going on behind the scenes.”
https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/27/the-wsj-is-worried-about-the-chief-justice-turning-votes-in-dobbs/?amp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

Congress has nothing to do with reporductive rights. I hold these and so do my daughters. Period.

At least until the GOP takes them away.

That is not really possible. They are not forcing women to give birth regardlesss of their policies. That does not happen and won't ever happen. They just force abortions underground and destroy the quality of their health care system.

No state is forcing births on our girls. Eventually, we will get the court to recognize this fundamental reality again. But either way.. that is the way it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

Congress has nothing to do with reporductive rights. I hold these and so do my daughters. Period.

At least until the GOP takes them away.

That is not really possible. They are not forcing women to give birth regardlesss of their policies. That does not happen and won't ever happen. They just force abortions underground and destroy the quality of their health care system.

No state is forcing births on our girls. Eventually, we will get the court to recognize this fundamental reality again. But either way.. that is the way it is.

Wtf. Can you cite evidence that every woman has decided to try and self abort? All the women at 20+ weeks who have just discovered that their fetus’s intestines are growing outside its body are going to be able to afford or obtain the precious few appointments in another state? Get out of here with your ridiculously rose colored glasses that no one is being forced to give birth when that’s the entire freaking point of the forced birther movement. Cause women misery, hopefully kill them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

Congress has nothing to do with reporductive rights. I hold these and so do my daughters. Period.

At least until the GOP takes them away.

That is not really possible. They are not forcing women to give birth regardlesss of their policies. That does not happen and won't ever happen. They just force abortions underground and destroy the quality of their health care system.

No state is forcing births on our girls. Eventually, we will get the court to recognize this fundamental reality again. But either way.. that is the way it is.

Wtf. Can you cite evidence that every woman has decided to try and self abort? All the women at 20+ weeks who have just discovered that their fetus’s intestines are growing outside its body are going to be able to afford or obtain the precious few appointments in another state? Get out of here with your ridiculously rose colored glasses that no one is being forced to give birth when that’s the entire freaking point of the forced birther movement. Cause women misery, hopefully kill them.

We all know many women that have had abortions and that is their right. Even if some state claims otherwise, it remains their right. I dont think this is an issue of the "states" get to decide about this. Those types of laws are in fundamental violation of basic woman's, human, rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

Congress has nothing to do with reporductive rights. I hold these and so do my daughters. Period.

At least until the GOP takes them away.

That is not really possible. They are not forcing women to give birth regardlesss of their policies. That does not happen and won't ever happen. They just force abortions underground and destroy the quality of their health care system.

No state is forcing births on our girls. Eventually, we will get the court to recognize this fundamental reality again. But either way.. that is the way it is.

Wtf. Can you cite evidence that every woman has decided to try and self abort? All the women at 20+ weeks who have just discovered that their fetus’s intestines are growing outside its body are going to be able to afford or obtain the precious few appointments in another state? Get out of here with your ridiculously rose colored glasses that no one is being forced to give birth when that’s the entire freaking point of the forced birther movement. Cause women misery, hopefully kill them.

We all know many women that have had abortions and that is their right. Even if some state claims otherwise, it remains their right. I dont think this is an issue of the "states" get to decide about this. Those types of laws are in fundamental violation of basic woman's, human, rights.

I don’t think “states” get to decide either, but I am disputing your claim that “they are not forcing women to give birth.” They are.

[Anonymous]

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That is not really possible. They are not forcing women to give birth regardlesss of their policies. That does not happen and won't ever happen. They just force abortions underground and destroy the quality of their health care system.

Then you should be able to point to birth rates being the same before and after these laws went into effect.
I saw a study that showed 20000 fewer abortions, with 10000 more in states that did not change their laws.
That is, half went for an abortion in another state.
It is not clear that the other half were underground abortions, or 10000 more births.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

Oh, Rupert Murdoch’s editorial board? I’m totally convinced!

Exactly what in the above piece is non-factual? We'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

Are you the dimwit who trots out this line every time a WSJ editorial is posted? Yet you have no trouble posting your own NYT and/or WaPo opinion pieces? The WSJ editorial division is most definitely NOT pro-Trump OR extreme right-wing. Which you would know if you actually read it instead of enclosing yourself in your airtight echo chamber.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-is-the-gops-biggest-loser-midterm-elections-senate-house-congress-republicans-11668034869
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-rallies-pennsylvania-oz-desantis-desanctimonious-pence-cruz-2022-midterm-presidential-nomination-declaration-11667766682
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-president-who-stood-still-donald-trump-jan-6-committee-mike-pence-capitol-riot-11658528548?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

We'll wait while you link to this op-ed. In the meantime, the Dobbs leaker *is* a terrible person. And there are zero indications that person is Alito. Braying about how it "must be so" does not, in fact, make it so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

We'll wait while you link to this op-ed. In the meantime, the Dobbs leaker *is* a terrible person. And there are zero indications that person is Alito. Braying about how it "must be so" does not, in fact, make it so.

There are plenty of indications that Alito was involved in the leak. He’s the most likely to think that sharing insider information with right-wing interested parties and lobbyists is ok for right-wingers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

We'll wait while you link to this op-ed. In the meantime, the Dobbs leaker *is* a terrible person. And there are zero indications that person is Alito. Braying about how it "must be so" does not, in fact, make it so.

There are plenty of indications that Alito was involved in the leak. He’s the most likely to think that sharing insider information with right-wing interested parties and lobbyists is ok for right-wingers.

No, there are not "plenty of indications." There is one dinner involving a woman who completely denies the claim that the pastor made. You're welcome to feverishly speculate and hypothesize - as long as you understand there is zero proof of what you assert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

We'll wait while you link to this op-ed. In the meantime, the Dobbs leaker *is* a terrible person. And there are zero indications that person is Alito. Braying about how it "must be so" does not, in fact, make it so.

Even Dershowitz is mad about it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/public-dobbs-draft-leak-opinion-investigation-chief-justice-marhal-office-subpoena-immunity-witness-politico-clerk-alito-11667142913

But I think this is more likely what PP is referring to.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecute-the-dobbs-leakers-supreme-court-draft-politico-abortion-justice-law-clerk-ruling-career-betrayal-11654098466

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

We'll wait while you link to this op-ed. In the meantime, the Dobbs leaker *is* a terrible person. And there are zero indications that person is Alito. Braying about how it "must be so" does not, in fact, make it so.

Even Dershowitz is mad about it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/public-dobbs-draft-leak-opinion-investigation-chief-justice-marhal-office-subpoena-immunity-witness-politico-clerk-alito-11667142913

But I think this is more likely what PP is referring to.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecute-the-dobbs-leakers-supreme-court-draft-politico-abortion-justice-law-clerk-ruling-career-betrayal-11654098466

I don’t have a WSJ account so could only see the first few paragraphs for a moment, but the second one looks like one of the ones I remember.

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Anonymous wrote:To call this story uncorroborated is to overstate its credibility. Rob Schenck, a pastor who has since turned against his former evangelical allies, claims he heard from a woman who heard from Justice Alito at a dinner party in 2014 about the pending opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, a religious liberty case. Justice Alito denies leaking anything, and the woman denies hearing about it.

But this summer, after the Dobbs abortion decision, Mr. Schenck decided that what he claims to have learned in advance of the Hobby Lobby decision should be shared with the world. He wrote to Chief Justice John Roberts with concern about the gossip. When the Chief didn’t respond to Mr. Schenck’s satisfaction, he turned to the media, and then Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse piled on.

Mr. Whitehouse is famous for his tenacious digging into Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbook. He and Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson have written to the Chief demanding that the Court investigate this alleged ethical breach or they will do it.

This is another case of political intimidation in the service of undermining public confidence in the Court. The accusation is second-hand hearsay from a politically motivated source. The woman and her late husband did attend a dinner party at the home of Justice Alito and his wife after donating money to the Supreme Court Historical Society. But that’s the extent of any corroboration.

The real reason Democrats are upset is because they’ve lost the Court as a backstop legislature for policies they can’t get through Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/targeting-justice-samuel-alito-rob-schenck-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-sheldon-whitehouse-11669154588

You lose credibility any time you cite an opinion piece. The WSJ's news division is respectable, but it's previously pro-Trump and extreme right-wing editorial slant is well-known.

Loser.

I seem to remember after someone leaked the Dobbs decision that WSJ had a bat crap crazy oped about how that would never happen and we should all focus on the leak because the leaker was the worst person in America.

We'll wait while you link to this op-ed. In the meantime, the Dobbs leaker *is* a terrible person. And there are zero indications that person is Alito. Braying about how it "must be so" does not, in fact, make it so.

There are plenty of indications that Alito was involved in the leak. He’s the most likely to think that sharing insider information with right-wing interested parties and lobbyists is ok for right-wingers.

No, there are not "plenty of indications." There is one dinner involving a woman who completely denies the claim that the pastor made. You're welcome to feverishly speculate and hypothesize - as long as you understand there is zero proof of what you assert.

You will not get through to people here. Everything to them is sensationalistic, and essentially a made-for-TV movie or series. If you think back over time at all the threads that died due to the truth coming out, and all the people they worshipped who ended up in jail, it’s pretty clear that facing the truth is hard stuff. It took the media, what, two YEARS to admit there might be truth to a piece of technical equipment?

People here are all hat and no cattle. It’s all emotion, no fact.