Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby

[Anonymous]

This story is just horrific. I don’t understand how now that people know it was done fraudulently that this poor baby isn’t quickly back with her family. The longer this drags on, the more trauma for her. And there doesn’t seem to be any reasonable reason she should be with the Mast family. They are horrible, horrible people.

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Anonymous wrote:This story makes me very sad for the child. I know the Masts think they are doing the right thing, but I hope the courts get it straightened out and return the child to the relatives.

I’m sure the Masts believe they are, because they’re white, American, evangelical Christians who have claimed that the baby would be in inherent danger to be raised by Muslim Afghani relatives who would likely make her “a child soldier or sex slave”. The xenophobia, among other things, is incredible.

MHiw did the court approve this? Trump-appointed?

Yes, international adoption requires state dept involvement, visas, etc.

Very fishy.

And the marine probably thought he would be portrayed as some savior. If he really cared about the baby, he would have brought her and her new (afghan) parents here, and helped settle them as an intact family.

This is what I don’t get. The NYTimes article was annoyingly impressionistic about the legal aspects of the case. I don’t understand how a court could issue an adoption decree with minimal objective evidence that the child even existed, much less any biological relatives who could care for her. And the court apparently accepted the verbal testimony that the Afghan government would waive jurisdiction. It all seems totally insane - anyone could do this an effectively steal a child from any jurisdiction. As long as you get the child present in a county where CPS will take possession of them for you.

Corruption. Of a sort, anyway. Small town, the petitioners know the judge. Anti-Muslim bias. And it's not like there was anyone in court to object.

But your point is true- it's seemingly easy to do this under the right circumstances.

I think eventually the legal process will play out here, but this NY Times story puts egg on the face of DOD and, to a lesser extent, the State Department. I find it conceivable that there are behind the scenes talks from high levels going on. I also predict the Masts try to go loud and public and try to co-opt the right wing media to their cause. I'm not sure if it will work, but it will be attempted.

There is certainly a large Christian community/economy in America that will support them but I think this is a bridge too far for the regular Fox News crowd. It’s too horrible.

[Anonymous]

I'm still so mad about this. These people posing as good Christians are EVIL PEOPLE. They are NOT Christians.

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Anonymous wrote:This story makes me very sad for the child. I know the Masts think they are doing the right thing, but I hope the courts get it straightened out and return the child to the relatives.

Do they really think that? It's hard to imagine

Well, if you think Americans are superior . Christianity is the only true religion. Etc etc

The guy should be in jail. Instead, it sounds like he is in our payroll

Can’t believe he us an attorney!!

And that small town judge should also be disbarred.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:This story makes me very sad for the child. I know the Masts think they are doing the right thing, but I hope the courts get it straightened out and return the child to the relatives.

Do they really think that? It's hard to imagine

Well, if you think Americans are superior . Christianity is the only true religion. Etc etc

The guy should be in jail. Instead, it sounds like he is in our payroll

FYI, Muslims believe that, it's why non-Muslims are not allowed to adopt Muslim babies. It's not a strange or terrible belief. These people are the problem. Focus on them.

Who is the problem? You are horrible if I understand what you are saying. Take your crap elsewhere!

[Anonymous]

I could not believe this crazy military family. What an embarrassment. The stole this baby. It was premeditated and deliberate. They have a hero syndrome, encouraged by their church for the sake of a good story.

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Anonymous wrote:This story makes me very sad for the child. I know the Masts think they are doing the right thing, but I hope the courts get it straightened out and return the child to the relatives.

Do they really think that? It's hard to imagine

Well, if you think Americans are superior . Christianity is the only true religion. Etc etc

The guy should be in jail. Instead, it sounds like he is in our payroll

FYI, Muslims believe that, it's why non-Muslims are not allowed to adopt Muslim babies. It's not a strange or terrible belief. These people are the problem. Focus on them.

Who is the problem? You are horrible if I understand what you are saying. Take your crap elsewhere!

The Masts. Those people.

The name-calling isn't necessary, whatever your reading comprehension issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.

This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.

That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?

If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.

This is literally the definition of human trafficking. And it’s plenty horrific.

Do you have some narrower definition that only involved sexual exploitation? If so, educate yourself.

Yes, because going through the court system to obtain an orphaned infant is exactly the same as the horrors that many go through when part of a trafficking operations. You're being willfully ignorant. Must be nice to go through life that clueless....

You sound like a wonderful Godly person. One point for heaven. Not.

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Anonymous wrote:This story makes me very sad for the child. I know the Masts think they are doing the right thing, but I hope the courts get it straightened out and return the child to the relatives.

I’m sure the Masts believe they are, because they’re white, American, evangelical Christians who have claimed that the baby would be in inherent danger to be raised by Muslim Afghani relatives who would likely make her “a child soldier or sex slave”. The xenophobia, among other things, is incredible.

MHiw did the court approve this? Trump-appointed?

Yes, international adoption requires state dept involvement, visas, etc.

Very fishy.

And the marine probably thought he would be portrayed as some savior. If he really cared about the baby, he would have brought her and her new (afghan) parents here, and helped settle them as an intact family.

This is what I don’t get. The NYTimes article was annoyingly impressionistic about the legal aspects of the case. I don’t understand how a court could issue an adoption decree with minimal objective evidence that the child even existed, much less any biological relatives who could care for her. And the court apparently accepted the verbal testimony that the Afghan government would waive jurisdiction. It all seems totally insane - anyone could do this an effectively steal a child from any jurisdiction. As long as you get the child present in a county where CPS will take possession of them for you.

Corruption. Of a sort, anyway. Small town, the petitioners know the judge. Anti-Muslim bias. And it's not like there was anyone in court to object.

But your point is true- it's seemingly easy to do this under the right circumstances.

I think eventually the legal process will play out here, but this NY Times story puts egg on the face of DOD and, to a lesser extent, the State Department. I find it conceivable that there are behind the scenes talks from high levels going on. I also predict the Masts try to go loud and public and try to co-opt the right wing media to their cause. I'm not sure if it will work, but it will be attempted.

There is certainly a large Christian community/economy in America that will support them but I think this is a bridge too far for the regular Fox News crowd. It’s too horrible.

Come on. Nothing is too far for fox.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.

This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.

That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?

If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.

This is literally the definition of human trafficking. And it’s plenty horrific.

Do you have some narrower definition that only involved sexual exploitation? If so, educate yourself.

Yes, because going through the court system to obtain an orphaned infant is exactly the same as the horrors that many go through when part of a trafficking operations. You're being willfully ignorant. Must be nice to go through life that clueless....

You sound like a wonderful Godly person. One point for heaven. Not.

Not heaven, just accuracy. This isn't trafficking, it's baby-knapping. We have words for both things, let's not confuse them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm still so mad about this. These people posing as good Christians are EVIL PEOPLE. They are NOT Christians.

Why isn't this a bigger story?

[Anonymous]

More coverage here from ABC News:
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/baby-orphaned-military-raid-now-101517395.html?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

[Anonymous]

It’s crazy to me that one local judge-now retired-has such immense power when every other authority agrees that the baby should be back with her bio relatives.

Also why hasn’t this guy been court martialed and discharged?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More coverage here from ABC News:
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/baby-orphaned-military-raid-now-101517395.html?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

the new info in this piece is a STRONG statement by the State Dept that the baby should have stayed w Afghan relatives (as determined by Afghanistan, which had proper jurisdiction).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still so mad about this. These people posing as good Christians are EVIL PEOPLE. They are NOT Christians.

Why isn't this a bigger story?

Honestly I think it’s too complicated to explain on cable news.