Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If the baby had family in the US then they should have had the right to adopt her. But letting her go back to that hellhole of a country would be a travesty.


It’s her country regardless of what we think. She deserves to be with her family raised in her culture.

No woman deserves to be raised in that “culture”.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.


This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.


That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?


If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.


In Argentina, during the dictatorship it was common practice to take babies from political dissenters and give them to families who supported the military government. There’s an entire generation of trafficked people who will confirm just how horrific it is be trafficked as a baby. The psychological damage is long lasting and profound.

You think that the baby wasn’t trafficked because you support the politics of the couple doing the human trafficking. Deep down you think the baby is better off with the Americans.

You want to downplay the horror that regular Americans are eager to exploit political vulnerability to participate in human trafficking. It feels better than accepting that there are monsters living next door.
Anonymous
If it was a choice between returning the child to Afghanistan and leaving her here with the Masts I would have supported leaving here here. But that was not the choice. Her legal guardians were legally in the US.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the baby had family in the US then they should have had the right to adopt her. But letting her go back to that hellhole of a country would be a travesty.


It’s her country regardless of what we think. She deserves to be with her family raised in her culture.

No woman deserves to be raised in that “culture”.


No woman deserves to be raised in MAGA USA either.

If a vacationing Swedish couple thinks your new baby is cute and deserves a better life, should they file for emergency custody and adopt her because they can provide a better life than you?
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Anonymous wrote:The Afghan couple (who the husband claims is the child's first cousin) has consistently refused to undergo DNA testing.

An investigative reporter went to Afghanistan and villagers said a foreign terrorist group who were light skinned set up camp in the village. The child who was orphaned had light hair and light-colored eyes, which is often consistent with families from regions like Chechnya or Uzbekista (common origins for foreign Al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan) rather than the local ethnic groups in that specific Afghan province that does not look like the child. If she were orphaned in another part of Afghanistan then it might be more plausible but in that area there aren't blond kids.

It was only months later this relative came forward who refuses to have DNA testing done.

Now add to that the orphan girl has FOUR FULL biological siblings in TEXAS. They ALL refuse to have DNA testing done and not one of them look like the orphan girl with light features.


My understanding is life is very, very tough for Afghan women who don't have the privilege of a protective and loving family. Very, very hard, to say the least. It's hard anywhere in the world. In a male-dominated, harsh desert war torn country, a little orphaned girl is in serious jeopardy of ending up in a very bad situation.

What I read on the case is that a man stepped forward when the orphaned girl was released from the military hospital, claiming to be her uncle. With the chaos of war, nobody to confirm nor refute his claims. The child was turned over to him. He then gave the child to his son. His son and his son's wife are the Afghan couple who are now fighting the American couple for custody of the child. They refuse to submit themselves to a DNA test to confirm they are related.

Why would they refuse DNA testing, if it can prove they are cousins? The obvious explanation is they are not related at all. As someone else pointed out, there is a chance this child is not even of Afghan parentage.

I'm on the side of whatever is safest for this child. Who can give her happiness as a child, and give her the security to grow up to be a thriving, strong woman? She's going to need all the strength she can get, what with her background and her likely return to Afghanistan as an adult in a quest to figure out who her family is. If they turn out to be terrible people, she can leave and return to the U.S. If she finds her family and they welcome her, good for her.

If the "cousins" end up taking the DNA test to confirm they are her family, that's another story. They should be given priority as her next of kin.


It doesn't matter if the Afghan couple are related by blood or if the child has blonde hair. What the Masts did was unbelievably horrific and is child trafficking 101. It is disgusting. An American doesn't get to just go to another country, and steal a baby because America is better (and I love our country). WTAF?!


I do not agree with you. I think the child's safety should be the top concern. You can call it trafficking if you want, but all the spin in the world is not going to change the reality of the situation.

I don't know a lot about Afghanistan but I do know it's a harsh, male dominated society currently run by the ruthless Taliban. Do you refute this? She's a vulnerable little girl child. That should be the top concern.

She fell under the province of the Americans as the lone survivor of a firefight. The Americans scooped her up and got her to a hospital. Thank God they got her to a hospital, or she likely would not have survived. From that point on they had a responsibility to ensure she was safe, considering she was orphaned.

If the Afghan couple are not family, they have no more right to have custody than the American couple.






Please tell me that your pea brain understands the Americans killed her entire family and grievously injured her in this "firefight." They didn't happen upon a crime scene and heroically save a survivor, they killed a family including a bunch of kids and took the one that wasn't finished off when they left.

Also the Afghan family does have more right to her than the Masts because she is Afghani, not American. That's international law. You can't steal kids you think are cute from other countries because 'Murica.


+1.


I didn't approve of us going into Afghanistan and I don't approve of any efforts to enter other conflicts in the ME. Not our circus, not our monkeys. Just so you know.

I also watched in disbelief when Afghans capitulated to the Taliban immediately after the Americans left. All the effort to help women wasted. All the young American lives lost, wasted. All the devastation in Afghanistan, wasted. And nothing changed.

That is the other side of the coin. Afghanistan is a hellhole, okay? You think this orphaned child should have remained there, to who knows what fate awaited her as an orphaned child?

Give it some thought.


Too bad your brain doesn't work . She had family to go to. We don't steal children just because of assumptions. Give that some thought.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She is a human baby, not just Muslim, Christian, Afghan or American baby. A mixed race and religion jury should decide what would be better for her as currently she is on American soil. If extended family wants to adopt her and has no red flags, that's the best option in my opinion. As far as religion goes, people of any religion can adopt her as pong as they agree to give her religious freedom and basic education of religion her parents followed. I wouldn't support choosing any over religious family of any religion. Some educated and open minded family would serve her interests best.


You have no basic understanding of the law and are incapable of seeing how insane your argument is. You are clearly uneducated and are saying people stealing children is ok if you judge their family poorly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Afghan couple (who the husband claims is the child's first cousin) has consistently refused to undergo DNA testing.

An investigative reporter went to Afghanistan and villagers said a foreign terrorist group who were light skinned set up camp in the village. The child who was orphaned had light hair and light-colored eyes, which is often consistent with families from regions like Chechnya or Uzbekista (common origins for foreign Al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan) rather than the local ethnic groups in that specific Afghan province that does not look like the child. If she were orphaned in another part of Afghanistan then it might be more plausible but in that area there aren't blond kids.

It was only months later this relative came forward who refuses to have DNA testing done.

Now add to that the orphan girl has FOUR FULL biological siblings in TEXAS. They ALL refuse to have DNA testing done and not one of them look like the orphan girl with light features.


My understanding is life is very, very tough for Afghan women who don't have the privilege of a protective and loving family. Very, very hard, to say the least. It's hard anywhere in the world. In a male-dominated, harsh desert war torn country, a little orphaned girl is in serious jeopardy of ending up in a very bad situation.

What I read on the case is that a man stepped forward when the orphaned girl was released from the military hospital, claiming to be her uncle. With the chaos of war, nobody to confirm nor refute his claims. The child was turned over to him. He then gave the child to his son. His son and his son's wife are the Afghan couple who are now fighting the American couple for custody of the child. They refuse to submit themselves to a DNA test to confirm they are related.

Why would they refuse DNA testing, if it can prove they are cousins? The obvious explanation is they are not related at all. As someone else pointed out, there is a chance this child is not even of Afghan parentage.

I'm on the side of whatever is safest for this child. Who can give her happiness as a child, and give her the security to grow up to be a thriving, strong woman? She's going to need all the strength she can get, what with her background and her likely return to Afghanistan as an adult in a quest to figure out who her family is. If they turn out to be terrible people, she can leave and return to the U.S. If she finds her family and they welcome her, good for her.

If the "cousins" end up taking the DNA test to confirm they are her family, that's another story. They should be given priority as her next of kin.


It doesn't matter if the Afghan couple are related by blood or if the child has blonde hair. What the Masts did was unbelievably horrific and is child trafficking 101. It is disgusting. An American doesn't get to just go to another country, and steal a baby because America is better (and I love our country). WTAF?!


Yeah probably better to let her stay in Afghanistan so she could be married at 12.


Better to be living with people whose work killed her parents and four siblings. Right?


Actually yes. She’ll go to school. She’ll have food and shelter and she’ll have choices.


She belongs wiht her family, not kidnappers.


Kidnappers who are liars who have no problem breaking the law. I judge their religion as this girl will be treated as less than and will not be allowed to have any freedom to think any differently than their extreme weird religious views.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These people are the opposite of Christian. I hope they rot in hell. Disgusting.


This. They are so comfortable with lying and breaking the law. It was clearly nothing for them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the baby had family in the US then they should have had the right to adopt her. But letting her go back to that hellhole of a country would be a travesty.


It’s her country regardless of what we think. She deserves to be with her family raised in her culture.

No woman deserves to be raised in that “culture”.


So, because someone has different values and culture than you do, they don’t deserve to be raised by family in their culture. No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If it was a choice between returning the child to Afghanistan and leaving her here with the Masts I would have supported leaving here here. But that was not the choice. Her legal guardians were legally in the US.


She should be with her relatives in her culture.
Anonymous
This case makes me feel hopeless for the US. We accept lawlessness now. That nothing stopped this couple from stealing a child from family and that there are people who defend it shows we are as bad as any corrupt third world country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the baby had family in the US then they should have had the right to adopt her. But letting her go back to that hellhole of a country would be a travesty.


It’s her country regardless of what we think. She deserves to be with her family raised in her culture.

No woman deserves to be raised in that “culture”.


Her family lives in and plans to remain in Texas. Are you just saying she shouldn't be raised by a Muslim family?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Afghan couple (who the husband claims is the child's first cousin) has consistently refused to undergo DNA testing.

An investigative reporter went to Afghanistan and villagers said a foreign terrorist group who were light skinned set up camp in the village. The child who was orphaned had light hair and light-colored eyes, which is often consistent with families from regions like Chechnya or Uzbekista (common origins for foreign Al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan) rather than the local ethnic groups in that specific Afghan province that does not look like the child. If she were orphaned in another part of Afghanistan then it might be more plausible but in that area there aren't blond kids.

It was only months later this relative came forward who refuses to have DNA testing done.

Now add to that the orphan girl has FOUR FULL biological siblings in TEXAS. They ALL refuse to have DNA testing done and not one of them look like the orphan girl with light features.


My understanding is life is very, very tough for Afghan women who don't have the privilege of a protective and loving family. Very, very hard, to say the least. It's hard anywhere in the world. In a male-dominated, harsh desert war torn country, a little orphaned girl is in serious jeopardy of ending up in a very bad situation.

What I read on the case is that a man stepped forward when the orphaned girl was released from the military hospital, claiming to be her uncle. With the chaos of war, nobody to confirm nor refute his claims. The child was turned over to him. He then gave the child to his son. His son and his son's wife are the Afghan couple who are now fighting the American couple for custody of the child. They refuse to submit themselves to a DNA test to confirm they are related.

Why would they refuse DNA testing, if it can prove they are cousins? The obvious explanation is they are not related at all. As someone else pointed out, there is a chance this child is not even of Afghan parentage.

I'm on the side of whatever is safest for this child. Who can give her happiness as a child, and give her the security to grow up to be a thriving, strong woman? She's going to need all the strength she can get, what with her background and her likely return to Afghanistan as an adult in a quest to figure out who her family is. If they turn out to be terrible people, she can leave and return to the U.S. If she finds her family and they welcome her, good for her.

If the "cousins" end up taking the DNA test to confirm they are her family, that's another story. They should be given priority as her next of kin.

It doesn't matter if they are blood relations or not. The child's custody was governed by the Afghan government. The Afghan government determined that she should be with this family. The US government agreed with them because it was the Afghan government's call. It was not the. US government's call, it was certainly not Joshua Mast's call, and it was absolutely not this random a-hole judge's call.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This case makes me feel hopeless for the US. We accept lawlessness now. That nothing stopped this couple from stealing a child from family and that there are people who defend it shows we are as bad as any corrupt third world country.


This has happened and still happens. There is no uproar over it but the only reason this makes the news is that the family is suing and got media attention. Its horrific.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Afghan couple (who the husband claims is the child's first cousin) has consistently refused to undergo DNA testing.

An investigative reporter went to Afghanistan and villagers said a foreign terrorist group who were light skinned set up camp in the village. The child who was orphaned had light hair and light-colored eyes, which is often consistent with families from regions like Chechnya or Uzbekista (common origins for foreign Al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan) rather than the local ethnic groups in that specific Afghan province that does not look like the child. If she were orphaned in another part of Afghanistan then it might be more plausible but in that area there aren't blond kids.

It was only months later this relative came forward who refuses to have DNA testing done.

Now add to that the orphan girl has FOUR FULL biological siblings in TEXAS. They ALL refuse to have DNA testing done and not one of them look like the orphan girl with light features.


My understanding is life is very, very tough for Afghan women who don't have the privilege of a protective and loving family. Very, very hard, to say the least. It's hard anywhere in the world. In a male-dominated, harsh desert war torn country, a little orphaned girl is in serious jeopardy of ending up in a very bad situation.

What I read on the case is that a man stepped forward when the orphaned girl was released from the military hospital, claiming to be her uncle. With the chaos of war, nobody to confirm nor refute his claims. The child was turned over to him. He then gave the child to his son. His son and his son's wife are the Afghan couple who are now fighting the American couple for custody of the child. They refuse to submit themselves to a DNA test to confirm they are related.

Why would they refuse DNA testing, if it can prove they are cousins? The obvious explanation is they are not related at all. As someone else pointed out, there is a chance this child is not even of Afghan parentage.

I'm on the side of whatever is safest for this child. Who can give her happiness as a child, and give her the security to grow up to be a thriving, strong woman? She's going to need all the strength she can get, what with her background and her likely return to Afghanistan as an adult in a quest to figure out who her family is. If they turn out to be terrible people, she can leave and return to the U.S. If she finds her family and they welcome her, good for her.

If the "cousins" end up taking the DNA test to confirm they are her family, that's another story. They should be given priority as her next of kin.

It doesn't matter if they are blood relations or not. The child's custody was governed by the Afghan government. The Afghan government determined that she should be with this family. The US government agreed with them because it was the Afghan government's call. It was not the. US government's call, it was certainly not Joshua Mast's call, and it was absolutely not this random a-hole judge's call.


This is the crux of it. It was not anyone in the U.S.'s call to make. The child was in Afghanistan and the Afghan government gave her to this family. Joshua Mast kidnapped her.
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