TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:Look it's very easy. This all started with the NAACP. Some/Most Democrats bend over backward for this organization, frankly because they are deathly afraid to be called racist.

You might not like Asra's approach but it's what needs to be done. Democrats need to be afraid that they will be called racist if they ever go against asians

That's all the democratic party is a bunch of spineless politicians afraid of special interest groups and kowtowing to increasingly extreme and radical demands to appear woke.

To be fair many republicans do the same thing with the insane MAGA crowd.

It's why unaffiliated is dramatically increasing. Both parties suck.

The problem is that Asra looks like a clown show because she's advocating on behalf of a people who are relatively VERY well off in the Northern Virginia area from her estate in Great Falls. Her message resonates with other rich folks but when she tries to compare their struggle to that of African-Americans in this country, she comes off as incredibly tone deaf to everyone who is NOT in her affinity group.

If you need evidence of how out of touch she is, look at the videos that she posts where she's shrieking like a lunatic. Any normal person would want to distance themselves from that sort of self-incriminating footage as much as possible, but she uses it as leverage to gain the sympathy of other folks who, like her, believe that Black people are inferior and undeserving.

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

There never has been nor where there ever be a level playing field between the rich and everybody else. Tuition alone (both at the k-12 level and the university level) guarantees that

Public school is supposed to be free, friendo. And universities have long been ahead of the curve with respect to TJ and Northern Virginia when it comes to identifying talent and prioritizing experiential diversity. TJ remains behind the times and its reputation suffers as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Look it's very easy. This all started with the NAACP. Some/Most Democrats bend over backward for this organization, frankly because they are deathly afraid to be called racist.

You might not like Asra's approach but it's what needs to be done. Democrats need to be afraid that they will be called racist if they ever go against asians

That's all the democratic party is a bunch of spineless politicians afraid of special interest groups and kowtowing to increasingly extreme and radical demands to appear woke.

To be fair many republicans do the same thing with the insane MAGA crowd.

It's why unaffiliated is dramatically increasing. Both parties suck.

The problem is that Asra looks like a clown show because she's advocating on behalf of a people who are relatively VERY well off in the Northern Virginia area from her estate in Great Falls. Her message resonates with other rich folks but when she tries to compare their struggle to that of African-Americans in this country, she comes off as incredibly tone deaf to everyone who is NOT in her affinity group.

If you need evidence of how out of touch she is, look at the videos that she posts where she's shrieking like a lunatic. Any normal person would want to distance themselves from that sort of self-incriminating footage as much as possible, but she uses it as leverage to gain the sympathy of other folks who, like her, believe that Black people are inferior and undeserving.

Exactly, she comes off as tone deaf and unable to grasp that others have greater struggles. Also she seems to not grasp that affluence grants privilege that many lack.

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

bingoman...now I know why you want a lottery. can't do the work just want to play bingo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look it's very easy. This all started with the NAACP. Some/Most Democrats bend over backward for this organization, frankly because they are deathly afraid to be called racist.

You might not like Asra's approach but it's what needs to be done. Democrats need to be afraid that they will be called racist if they ever go against asians

That's all the democratic party is a bunch of spineless politicians afraid of special interest groups and kowtowing to increasingly extreme and radical demands to appear woke.

To be fair many republicans do the same thing with the insane MAGA crowd.

It's why unaffiliated is dramatically increasing. Both parties suck.

The problem is that Asra looks like a clown show because she's advocating on behalf of a people who are relatively VERY well off in the Northern Virginia area from her estate in Great Falls. Her message resonates with other rich folks but when she tries to compare their struggle to that of African-Americans in this country, she comes off as incredibly tone deaf to everyone who is NOT in her affinity group.

If you need evidence of how out of touch she is, look at the videos that she posts where she's shrieking like a lunatic. Any normal person would want to distance themselves from that sort of self-incriminating footage as much as possible, but she uses it as leverage to gain the sympathy of other folks who, like her, believe that Black people are inferior and undeserving.

Exactly, she comes off as tone deaf and unable to grasp that others have greater struggles. Also she seems to not grasp that affluence grants privilege that many lack.

you are just getting played by the divide and rule white man.

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

There never has been nor where there ever be a level playing field between the rich and everybody else. Tuition alone (both at the k-12 level and the university level) guarantees that

Public school is supposed to be free, friendo. And universities have long been ahead of the curve with respect to TJ and Northern Virginia when it comes to identifying talent and prioritizing experiential diversity. TJ remains behind the times and its reputation suffers as a result.

Public school is free. Exceptional education is not guaranteed

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

There never has been nor where there ever be a level playing field between the rich and everybody else. Tuition alone (both at the k-12 level and the university level) guarantees that

Public school is supposed to be free, friendo. And universities have long been ahead of the curve with respect to TJ and Northern Virginia when it comes to identifying talent and prioritizing experiential diversity. TJ remains behind the times and its reputation suffers as a result.

They should model their admissions based on Harvard selection process!

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Anonymous wrote:Look it's very easy. This all started with the NAACP. Some/Most Democrats bend over backward for this organization, frankly because they are deathly afraid to be called racist.

You might not like Asra's approach but it's what needs to be done. Democrats need to be afraid that they will be called racist if they ever go against asians

That's all the democratic party is a bunch of spineless politicians afraid of special interest groups and kowtowing to increasingly extreme and radical demands to appear woke.

To be fair many republicans do the same thing with the insane MAGA crowd.

It's why unaffiliated is dramatically increasing. Both parties suck.

The problem is that Asra looks like a clown show because she's advocating on behalf of a people who are relatively VERY well off in the Northern Virginia area from her estate in Great Falls. Her message resonates with other rich folks but when she tries to compare their struggle to that of African-Americans in this country, she comes off as incredibly tone deaf to everyone who is NOT in her affinity group.

If you need evidence of how out of touch she is, look at the videos that she posts where she's shrieking like a lunatic. Any normal person would want to distance themselves from that sort of self-incriminating footage as much as possible, but she uses it as leverage to gain the sympathy of other folks who, like her, believe that Black people are inferior and undeserving.

Those videos are unwatchable ranting. I really don't see how any sane person buys into this nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

bingoman...now I know why you want a lottery. can't do the work just want to play bingo.

It's true I prefer random chance to a rigged game!

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

bingoman...now I know why you want a lottery. can't do the work just want to play bingo.

It's true I prefer random chance to a rigged game!

are your trump? a truth denier

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

bingoman...now I know why you want a lottery. can't do the work just want to play bingo.

It's true I prefer random chance to a rigged game!

I know! It really stinks that we can't buy admissions like the good old days. This new process is so annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

bingoman...now I know why you want a lottery. can't do the work just want to play bingo.

It's true I prefer random chance to a rigged game!

I know! It really stinks that we can't buy admissions like the good old days. This new process is so annoying.

Tell us how you bought admissions for your kid. You must be clever.

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.

What Keam said is ugly and false. What Brabrand said is ugly and largely true. Doesn't make it any less ugly, but when it's true, it indicates a problem that needs to be solved.

the audacity of your problem is astounding. we are not a problem to be solved. go away. maybe you and brabrabd could spend more time with your kids instead of throwing stones at others. losers.

The "problem" is that wealthy families are able to use their resources to create imbalances in admissions processes.

Whether it's Indian families paying thousands of dollars for 16 months of Curie or white families spending $400/hr on individualized SAT tutoring, the problem remains the same: in order to keep up, families of lesser means are forced into a choice: pay for something they can't afford or cede an unlevel playing field to the rich. Where academics are concerned, that's unconscionable.

So we need to solve the problem by creating admissions mechanics that can't be so easily dominated by people with money.

BINGO!

bingoman...now I know why you want a lottery. can't do the work just want to play bingo.

It's true I prefer random chance to a rigged game!

I know! It really stinks that we can't buy admissions like the good old days. This new process is so annoying.

Tell us how you bought admissions for your kid. You must be clever.

Not the PP but just sign up for Curie courses starting in first grade. It will set you back maybe $20k over the next 7-8 years but they'll be a shoe in.

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Anonymous wrote:Look it's very easy. This all started with the NAACP. Some/Most Democrats bend over backward for this organization, frankly because they are deathly afraid to be called racist.

You might not like Asra's approach but it's what needs to be done. Democrats need to be afraid that they will be called racist if they ever go against asians

That's all the democratic party is a bunch of spineless politicians afraid of special interest groups and kowtowing to increasingly extreme and radical demands to appear woke.

To be fair many republicans do the same thing with the insane MAGA crowd.

It's why unaffiliated is dramatically increasing. Both parties suck.

The problem is that Asra looks like a clown show because she's advocating on behalf of a people who are relatively VERY well off in the Northern Virginia area from her estate in Great Falls. Her message resonates with other rich folks but when she tries to compare their struggle to that of African-Americans in this country, she comes off as incredibly tone deaf to everyone who is NOT in her affinity group.

If you need evidence of how out of touch she is, look at the videos that she posts where she's shrieking like a lunatic. Any normal person would want to distance themselves from that sort of self-incriminating footage as much as possible, but she uses it as leverage to gain the sympathy of other folks who, like her, believe that Black people are inferior and undeserving.

If anything is out of touch, it's the TJ Alumni Action Group types pretending that admitting a few more Black kids to TJ is going to meaningfully address the "struggle of African Americans in this county."

FCPS just released Class of 2022 SAT scores. It's not pretty. Black kids continue to have the lowest scores of any group in the county. The average at Mount Vernon, of the schools with the largest percentage of Black kids, was only 988.

But, sure, keep pretending your efforts to replace merit at TJ with tokenism are going to move the needle in any meaningful way. It makes you feel good and as a bonus you get to toss grenades at the highest performing group, Asian students, whose parents often came this country with nothing.