lax culture from an insider

[Anonymous]

Yep. Even in the Northwest and Midwest campus intramural LAXers had the rep I grew up thinking only football players had.

[Anonymous]

I'm tired of misplaced accountability. I think Love's murder was horrific. I think it's clear that GH was to blame for her death. Why on earth are PPs making the leap that the sport/University is to blame? I have not read anything in this trial that reminds me of the Paterno case. If the coach knew that GH was violent to YL or harassing her and did nothing - that is another story.

I certainly drank when I was at UVA, as did most of my friends. "Binge drinking" is not unique to lacrosse players OR to UVA. Please. That is just silly.

Would the violence have happened if GH was sober? Possibly not. Does that mean that "alcohol" is to blame? Absolutely not. GH has a pattern of violent/abusive behavior. GH is to blame. Stop playing Nancy Grace. It's poor logic and sensationalist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of misplaced accountability. I think Love's murder was horrific. I think it's clear that GH was to blame for her death. Why on earth are PPs making the leap that the sport/University is to blame? I have not read anything in this trial that reminds me of the Paterno case. If the coach knew that GH was violent to YL or harassing her and did nothing - that is another story.

I certainly drank when I was at UVA, as did most of my friends. "Binge drinking" is not unique to lacrosse players OR to UVA. Please. That is just silly.

Would the violence have happened if GH was sober? Possibly not. Does that mean that "alcohol" is to blame? Absolutely not. GH has a pattern of violent/abusive behavior. GH is to blame. Stop playing Nancy Grace. It's poor logic and sensationalist.

It was to no one's advantage to bring up the coach's knowledge/inaction during the trial that's why nothing reminds you of the Paterno case. But there's no doubt that the coach knew GHV was a violent drunk. GH has a prior arrest record while at UVa. He punch another player while the player was sleeping and even punch a female police officer! The coach knew GHV was a drunken bully and did nothing. The university did nothing (likely b/c the coach didn't report the incidents). What, UVa was state champs again last year? Awesome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Laxers love to drink and party. Everyone knows it. Even people, like myself, who didn't grow up in a lax hotbed. Though I did go to a university (not UVA) which is a lax power. The culture is not just at one school. It's likely at EVERY school.

So it needs to be addressed at EVERY school. What the Sandusky travesty did was shine a light on some of Paterno's actions that included shielding his drunken football players from state police and university discipline and review. The local police would call Paterno at home and tell him they picked up a couple football players. Then Paterno would dole out his own punishment as he saw fit. Paterno also prohibited the school from implementing its review and discipline. Sure, it may happen at EVERY school. Just means there's more work to do to address it. The public/media did UVa no justice by looking the other way when it came to UVa lacrosse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of misplaced accountability. I think Love's murder was horrific. I think it's clear that GH was to blame for her death. Why on earth are PPs making the leap that the sport/University is to blame? I have not read anything in this trial that reminds me of the Paterno case. If the coach knew that GH was violent to YL or harassing her and did nothing - that is another story.

I certainly drank when I was at UVA, as did most of my friends. "Binge drinking" is not unique to lacrosse players OR to UVA. Please. That is just silly.

Would the violence have happened if GH was sober? Possibly not. Does that mean that "alcohol" is to blame? Absolutely not. GH has a pattern of violent/abusive behavior. GH is to blame. Stop playing Nancy Grace. It's poor logic and sensationalist.

It was to no one's advantage to bring up the coach's knowledge/inaction during the trial that's why nothing reminds you of the Paterno case. But there's no doubt that the coach knew GHV was a violent drunk. GH has a prior arrest record while at UVa. He punch another player while the player was sleeping and even punch a female police officer! The coach knew GHV was a drunken bully and did nothing. The university did nothing (likely b/c the coach didn't report the incidents). What, UVa was state champs again last year? Awesome.

Huguely was basically a bench warmer on the UVA lax team -- their championship hopes didn't come close to riding on him. Surprised the coaches put up with any of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of misplaced accountability. I think Love's murder was horrific. I think it's clear that GH was to blame for her death. Why on earth are PPs making the leap that the sport/University is to blame? I have not read anything in this trial that reminds me of the Paterno case. If the coach knew that GH was violent to YL or harassing her and did nothing - that is another story.

I certainly drank when I was at UVA, as did most of my friends. "Binge drinking" is not unique to lacrosse players OR to UVA. Please. That is just silly.

Would the violence have happened if GH was sober? Possibly not. Does that mean that "alcohol" is to blame? Absolutely not. GH has a pattern of violent/abusive behavior. GH is to blame. Stop playing Nancy Grace. It's poor logic and sensationalist.

It was to no one's advantage to bring up the coach's knowledge/inaction during the trial that's why nothing reminds you of the Paterno case. But there's no doubt that the coach knew GHV was a violent drunk. GH has a prior arrest record while at UVa. He punch another player while the player was sleeping and even punch a female police officer! The coach knew GHV was a drunken bully and did nothing. The university did nothing (likely b/c the coach didn't report the incidents). What, UVa was state champs again last year? Awesome.

Huguely was basically a bench warmer on the UVA lax team -- their championship hopes didn't come close to riding on him. Surprised the coaches put up with any of it.

Looks like he'll be riding the pines in the Sate of Virginia Penal League

[Anonymous]

The stories from my UVA alum friends seems entirely consistent with a heavy drinking culture - not limited to lacrosse or athletics. I don't think it's seeing a huge reaction because it's so broad at UVA - making the incident seem like the aberration, and a domestic violence issue - not an alcohol issue. I don't think the will is there to change it.

[Anonymous]

OP: thank you for taking the time to make this post. It explains a lot of things for most of us.
So my question is...there are many sports out there. So why would you want your son playing lacrosse?
Based on the obvious, proven lacrosse culture, why would you let your daughters go near these guys?
If your building a college application for your high school son, do you think lacrosse will serve him well?
This is how I see it. The parents of these kids are not on duty or else they were nerds and want their kid to be cool?
Regarding the former group, how many of you are too proud to address the psychological problems that are apparent to everyone, except you? Ugh!

[Anonymous]

Why has lacrosse become the sport for rich, nonathletic degenerates?

[Anonymous]

I'd want my kid to play lacrosse. I wish I had played. Seems like an automatic ticket to popularity, hot women, college admissions somewhat better than you deserve, and $$$ jobs out of school.

[Anonymous]

"Why has lacrosse become the sport for rich, nonathletic degenerates? "

Because all the crew team spots are taken.

[Anonymous]

Is there a lax culture in the Moco public schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Why has lacrosse become the sport for rich, nonathletic degenerates? "

Because all the crew team spots are taken.

I am no great fan of LAX for all the obvious reasons. But LAX players, like basketball and hockey players, are some of the best and most coordinated athletes around. The good ones are fast, have good endurance, have to be quick and have great hand-eye coordination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Why has lacrosse become the sport for rich, nonathletic degenerates? "

Because all the crew team spots are taken.

I am no great fan of LAX for all the obvious reasons. But LAX players, like basketball and hockey players, are some of the best and most coordinated athletes around. The good ones are fast, have good endurance, have to be quick and have great hand-eye coordination.

Hmm. Guess that explains why DS is playing...hockey, lax, and b-ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but the guys at Miami make no pretense about the business they are in. Have you ever heard them brag about their school? It's about real athletics and they are headed for the Pros.
The lax bros I know in the mid-Atlantic State schools are wimpy and elitist non athletes for whom the rides ends abruptly if and when they graduate from college ... if they get that far.

Any one have stats to back up the notion that college lax players have a higher graduation rate than football/basketball?