Propose parents sue the Coalition for TJ--you're holding up our kids' decisions

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

Why the obsession with Curie? Are you equally troubled by the advantages that a kid who grows up economically secure with two parents has over other kids? You don't want to level the playing field; you just want it tilted more in your direction.

End TJHSST and insist on quality throughout FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Tutoring is one thing.

Targeted preparation that is specifically designed not to educate students, but to show them how to solve the types of problems on an exam that is designed to test native problem solving ability is quite another.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

The only people the (UMC South Asian Loudoun) kids who attend Curie are competing with and beating out for TJ seats are the other UMC South Asian kids from Loudoun.

They also did not have 133 seats at TJ in the class of 2024. They had 133 admissions total, which includes the numerous kids who declined their TJ spots to attend AOS or AET, as well as the kids who were then offered admission into the LCPS slots off of the waitlist. The Curie kids are basically the LCPS TJ cohort, which is generally just the upper middle class South Asian kids. Very few others want to commute all the way to Annandale just for a high school.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

The only people the (UMC South Asian Loudoun) kids who attend Curie are competing with and beating out for TJ seats are the other UMC South Asian kids from Loudoun.

They also did not have 133 seats at TJ in the class of 2024. They had 133 admissions total, which includes the numerous kids who declined their TJ spots to attend AOS or AET, as well as the kids who were then offered admission into the LCPS slots off of the waitlist. The Curie kids are basically the LCPS TJ cohort, which is generally just the upper middle class South Asian kids. Very few others want to commute all the way to Annandale just for a high school.

Of those 133, 67 indicated that they also had been admitted to either AOS or AET or both. We can safely assume those students are from Loudoun.

A simple cross reference with the TJ student directory shows that many of the others are from Centreville, Chantilly, Reston, and Herndon, all of which have very substantial South Asian populations. Indeed, there are even some who come from Falls Church and Annandale.

There are approximately 170-180 South Asian students in the Class of 2024. That's a pretty substantial ratio when about 75% of the South Asians in that class came from Curie.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Tutoring is one thing.

Targeted preparation that is specifically designed not to educate students, but to show them how to solve the types of problems on an exam that is designed to test native problem solving ability is quite another.

native solving ability? are you high? that's not innate.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Tutoring is one thing.

Targeted preparation that is specifically designed not to educate students, but to show them how to solve the types of problems on an exam that is designed to test native problem solving ability is quite another.

do you feel the same way about the SAT? that it solves native solving ability? LOLOL

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Tutoring is one thing.

Targeted preparation that is specifically designed not to educate students, but to show them how to solve the types of problems on an exam that is designed to test native problem solving ability is quite another.

do you feel the same way about the SAT? that it solves native solving ability? LOLOL

No, I don't. The math portion of the SAT is largely a math exam. The math concepts on the Quant-Q are relatively simple - what makes the exam difficult is the way the problems are presented.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Yes, only students who's families can afford to drop $5k on prep classes attend. That doesn't say anything about their motivation or ability.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Tutoring is one thing.

Targeted preparation that is specifically designed not to educate students, but to show them how to solve the types of problems on an exam that is designed to test native problem solving ability is quite another.

do you feel the same way about the SAT? that it solves native solving ability? LOLOL

Many school have stopped requiring the SAT for this reason.

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Anonymous wrote:What motivates the TJAAG is their fear that their TJ degrees will be worth less in certain circles if their alma mater is looked on less favorably because it doesn’t have enough Black and Hispanic students.

The TJAAG tries to portray itself as altruistic, but they are reactive and self-centered.

The trouble with conservatives is that their world view is so deeply skewed that they can’t even CONCEIVE of a person or group doing something that is the right thing to do even if it harms themselves.

Thus they have to engage in tortured logic to somehow reverse-justify the beliefs of their enemies.

Harming themselves..how? Self serving self righteousness is all I can see from the results you have achieved. Whites 26% up, Asians 26% down.

In the first place,you lump a very diverse group of people that represent almost 50% of the world's population over 3.5billion.people if you just include China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Bangladesh, Korea, Vietnam, Japan...Just India and China themselves have kids speaking second languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Tamil, Hindi, Urdu. Telugu and many others..

TJ's so called Asian students have different racial backgrounds, national origins, languages, immigration status, income levels. Yet you insist on dehumanizing them by seeing them as a monolith.

All this to serve your own purposes. Look in a mirror and think how you are actually helping. Bringing your politics to schools for your selfishness is just ugly, evil and ignorant.

So, at 54% of the class, Asians are well represented.

There's no such thing as "well represented." The appropriate representation in a gifted and talented program is the percentage of people that are gifted and talented. If those people happen to be asian, then so be it

Any school with over 50% of one group is hardly diverse.

The idea to group more than half of the world population -- Dravidian, Aryans, Punjab, Hindis, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Iranians, Vietnamese, Filipino ... -- into a single "race" is laughable. What's the rational? They have different culture, traditions, food, customs ...

Half of the world…half of TJ.

What’s the issue?

You will have to ask FCPS what the "issue" it is trying to "fix". They are mostly first gen immigrants. If you have to group them into a single group, first-generation immigrant is probably a more appropriate group designation as the commonality shared among the incredible diverse student body.

I guess FCPS hates immigrants. That's the issue.

I thought they were working hard to make these programs open to everyone not just a few groups heavily vested in expensive outside prep.

You'll have to show that a majority of prior TJ students got there through expensive outside prep. You'd also have to show a rational basis for your determination of "expensive".

I think Curie already did this. One of several prominent prep centers accounts for over 30% of those admitted when they published the names.

You are spreading fake new Putin puppet.

I know Curie only accounted for 25% of the kids admitted! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/906227.page

THey have been very successful getting kids into TJ but it's just one of several popular places that help students with their application and preparing them for selection.

The prep market in NVa is very very competitive and different centers market heavily. Curie had something with the class of 2024. Maybe it was access to the test, maybe they just happened to have 133 brilliant kids, but they only got 50 in the year before. Something was going on.

The thing I object to is a student who goes through a center like Curie has a much higher chance of being admitted than someone who does not. This seems worng.

A couple of different observations: 1) The students at Curie is a self-selected population, only kids who are driven to achieve and want to target TJ attend Curie. 2) I don't see anything wrong with a tutoring service being effective at tutoring. Next, you'll be complaining bout certain basketball coaches being effective at generating NBA players.

Tutoring is one thing.

Targeted preparation that is specifically designed not to educate students, but to show them how to solve the types of problems on an exam that is designed to test native problem solving ability is quite another.

do you feel the same way about the SAT? that it solves native solving ability? LOLOL

Many school have stopped requiring the SAT for this reason.

Nah, they're going back to it now. Give it another year or two - it's slowly picking back up