List of Toxic Federal Agencies

Anonymous
Given all of the posts about DS and USAID, would I be crazy to consider applying to be a GEO overseas? I won’t be able to continue my current career at our new post. DH is military working out of an embassy for the first time. I am not sharing these posts with him.
Anonymous
Not to burst your bubble but VA OCHCO is dysfunctional with poor leadership
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Anonymous wrote:Ok. I'm very curious. What makes USAID OIG so toxic? Way too many people have listed it. isn't the OIG supposed to model integrity and accountability?


Many IGs in my experience personify the phrase "who watches the watchers?" They pick and choose which laws to follow, especially in the HR arena, and use veiled threats to get the Agency to agree to do things that fall under Agency authority. It was very disheartening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given all of the posts about DS and USAID, would I be crazy to consider applying to be a GEO overseas? I won’t be able to continue my current career at our new post. DH is military working out of an embassy for the first time. I am not sharing these posts with him.


Not crazy, but realize you are doing it to stay employed, gain a new skill, or for another reason. You also have a light at the end of the tunnel if you don't like it - your spouse will move and so will you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not to burst your bubble but VA OCHCO is dysfunctional with poor leadership


Do expand on your thought here, please!
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Anonymous wrote:USAID OIG. STAY VERY FAR AWAY FROM THIS ORGANIZATION! The all-caps is VERY INTENTIONAL


Does anyone think highly of any OIG, though?


Actually most OIGs at other Departments are very highly ranked. Look at the list of agency subcomponents. Office of General Counsel is also highly ranked at most agencies. Anything in the top 100 is generally an excellent place to work. Our OIG at my agency is really good to work with and I know the employees are really happy. https://bestplacestowork.org/rankings/?view=overall&size=sub&category=leadership&

1. Office of Inspector General, Tennessee Valley Authority
16. Office of Inspector General , Department of Health and Human Services
40. Office of the Inspector General , Department of the Interior
54. Office of the Inspector General, United States Postal Service
62. Office of the Inspector General , Department of Justice
76. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, Department of the Treasury
83. Office of the Inspector General, General Services Administration
83. Office of the Inspector General, Department of Transportation
87.Office of the Inspector General, Office of the Secretary of Defense, Joint Staff, Defense Agencies, and Department of Defense Field Activities


I second this, especially DOT OIG. I would go back in a heartbeat.
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Anonymous wrote:USAID OIG. STAY VERY FAR AWAY FROM THIS ORGANIZATION! The all-caps is VERY INTENTIONAL

Agree.


Why?


What makes a toxic work culture is fighting, drama, and unhappy employees. Several posters have covered this. So I'll add:

-the senior leadership team is not cohesive. They fight each other. They try to hide this but we see that many of them don't like each other...They set organizational priorities, but individual executive will tell their staff "we are not focusing on this or that." How is it ok that the division priorities do not align to the organizational priorities? The last IG was intensely focused on people (a good thing, mostly). The other executives didn't agree and kept focusing on the technical aspects of the job over people. Nearly every promotion to management was solely based on technical skills. Yes, technical skills matter, but managers need to like people, or at least be willing to collaborate and hear different perspectives. And the leadership keeps wondering why the organization is stuck. Pay attention to who you put in team leader and manager roles. Why didn't they follow the IG's vision for people in management roles?

-leadership is quick to punish people who are not in their favor. In audit, there is an employee who is notoriously known for "telling it how it is." That employee was allowed to skip over 3 layers of management to call/email the head of audit and snitch on people. This employee would literally brag to us about being able to call up the head of audit anytime. This type of behavior was encouraged and the employee was promoted. Yet, employees who were not "in" with the head of audit got talked down to at the attempt of raising any concern. We all breathed a sigh of relief when the head of audit resigned to go follow the former IG (his friend) to Deloitte last month.

And don't get me started about the people he put in charge to write policies and train us. I worked in the field with a couple of them. They made the same mistakes as me. How did they all of a sudden master the technical skills in 4 months and be in a position to write policy and deliver trainings? If you ask questions about the policies they wrote, they can't answer them. The default response is ALWAYS "it's a judgement call." These were the chosen folks. So many of us "play the game" with these people so they wouldn't say anything bad about us to the head of audit. Doing so would literally send us to exile.

the IG nominee will have her work cut out for her. Building morale will not be easy. She has to start with her leadership team and mid-level managers. And as a previous poster said, all the surveys point to them needing to do better. We have 5 years of surveys that all say the same thing. No more data is needed. Action is needed!




The IG nominee is part of the fighting and drama. She did what you didn't like about your coworker - ran to the old IG - to get her way, get people pushed out she didn't like or agree with. And used her access to get herself ahead at their expense.


That's hard to believe. she seems to to be rationale. admittedly, I don't work with her often. but she and the DIG has been the most pleasant of all those folks on the leadership team.


Agree with the previous post, the GC and DIG at USAID OIG are excellent leaders and are trying their best!


Are they really trying? Let's be honest about that. Many of my colleagues in the office of management had meetings with the former IG and the DIG (now acting IG) about the leadership abuse and mis-management in our division. I'll give them credit for demoting the former AIG of management (another friend of the former iG) out of SES. That seemed like a promising step forward. But they made him a foreign service officer and sent him overseas to live a lavish life. News flash, that is an upgrade, not a downgrade! Then they replace him with someone worse. We feel like they intentionally delivered us to the devil! They spent nearly a year searching for the perfect executive, and they hired the devil. And what makes this horrible is that there were other options. The former HR director acted in the deputy role. He was smart and charismatic. So no, we do not feel like they are trying. My colleagues in audit and investigations might feel differently since they are not the step children of the organization.


The IG nominee is part of the fighting and drama. She did what you didn't like about your coworker - ran to the old IG - to get her way, get people pushed out she didn't like or agree with. And used her access to get herself ahead at their expense.

That's hard to believe. she seems to to be rationale. admittedly, I don't work with her often. but she and the DIG has been the most pleasant of all those folks on the leadership team.

Agree with the previous post, the GC and DIG at USAID OIG are excellent leaders and are trying their best!

Are they really trying? Let's be honest about that. Many of my colleagues in the office of management had meetings with the former IG and the DIG (now acting IG) about the leadership abuse and mis-management in our division. I'll give them credit for demoting the former AIG of management (another friend of the former iG) out of SES. That seemed like a promising step forward. But they made him a foreign service officer and sent him overseas to live a lavish life. News flash, that is an upgrade, not a downgrade! Then they replace him with someone worse. We feel like they intentionally delivered us to the devil! They spent nearly a year searching for the perfect executive, and they hired the devil. And what makes this horrible is that there were other options. The former HR director acted in the deputy role. He was smart and charismatic. So no, we do not feel like they are trying. My colleagues in audit and investigations might feel differently since they are not the step children of the organization.

No, we don't feel differently. many people praise the former IG, but her judgement on executives was off more often than not. Many of her executive hires or promotions did not have sufficient experience for the positions. Let's break this down!

1. Her first deputy IG was promoted to that role from a GS-15. He was a 15 for one year and then promoted to SES role (deputy IG) that was 3 levels from where he was as a 15. After serving in the role for two years, he was removed from the position because he couldn't handle it. To save face and spare him the embarrassment, the former IG created a new division for him (in 2018). Nobody knows what the division was supposed to do. It seemed to overlap with other offices. It doesn't matter now because the office was disbanded in 2021 and it never achieved any results. So much for efficiency and effectiveness!

2. the former IG's second deputy IG was a 15 for two years and promoted to SES. Once again, the role he was promoted into was 3 levels above his 15 role. I may not sit on the executive committee (thank goodness), but it's not hard to see that he struggles to manage them. In audit, we sent "feedback" to him and the former IG about the horrible practices of the former head of audit. They did NOTHING! They knew the former audit executive made decisions based on who he liked. He got away with it because he is friends with the former IG. I, too, am glad he followed her to Deloitte.

3. The former head of investigations was also promoted to SES by the former IG. He was promoted two levels above his 15 role and leap frogged a sitting executive in investigations. He ran investigations into the ground. I'll let my investigations colleagues provide examples of how he ran the unit into the ground. I only have second hand knowledge of it, but boy oh boy!

4. per a previous post, the GC went from 14 to SES in 3 years. Really?!!! I will say that many people have great things to say about her. My two interactions with her have been very pleasant, but she does sit on the executive committee. So it's hard to cut her slack when all these bad decisions are coming out. Did she dissent and was just out voted or was she convinced their decisions are good?

5. Most recently, the executive committee decided to make the principal deputy in audit the Acting AIGA. Another baffling decision! First, she should have never EVER been in the principal deputy role. In fact, how did she ever make the ranks of senior foreign service (SES equivalent for foreign service)? This is a mystery to everyone. She knows nothing and everything she touches has to be redone. She doesn't even seem to delegate effectively. I know from experience as she was once my director. The ONLY good thing here is that she is super nice. but they really couldn't have chosen a more clueless person. It's not like they didn't have choices. There are other executives in audit and they actually know something and come off as decent leaders.

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oops. my post got messed up. so I'll just post it like this. This is in response to the USAID OIG poster that wrote about the hiring of their office of management executive.

No, we don't feel differently. many people praise the former IG, but her judgement on executives was off more often than not. Many of her executive hires or promotions did not have sufficient experience for the positions. Let's break this down!

1. Her first deputy IG was promoted to that role from a GS-15. He was a 15 for one year and then promoted to SES role (deputy IG) that was 3 levels from where he was as a 15. After serving in the role for two years, he was removed from the position because he couldn't handle it. To save face and spare him the embarrassment, the former IG created a new division for him (in 2018). Nobody knows what the division was supposed to do. It seemed to overlap with other offices. It doesn't matter now because the office was disbanded in 2021 and it never achieved any results. So much for efficiency and effectiveness!

2. the former IG's second deputy IG was a 15 for two years and promoted to SES. Once again, the role he was promoted into was 3 levels above his 15 role. I may not sit on the executive committee (thank goodness), but it's not hard to see that he struggles to manage them. In audit, we sent "feedback" to him and the former IG about the horrible practices of the former head of audit. They did NOTHING! They knew the former audit executive made decisions based on who he liked. He got away with it because he is friends with the former IG. I, too, am glad he followed her to Deloitte.

3. The former head of investigations was also promoted to SES by the former IG. He was promoted two levels above his 15 role and leap frogged a sitting executive in investigations. He ran investigations into the ground. I'll let my investigations colleagues provide examples of how he ran the unit into the ground. I only have second hand knowledge of it, but boy oh boy!

4. per a previous post, the GC went from 14 to SES in 3 years. Really?!!! I will say that many people have great things to say about her. My two interactions with her have been very pleasant, but she does sit on the executive committee. So it's hard to cut her slack when all these bad decisions are coming out. Did she dissent and was just out voted or was she convinced their decisions are good?

5. Most recently, the executive committee decided to make the principal deputy in audit the Acting AIGA. Another baffling decision! First, she should have never EVER been in the principal deputy role. In fact, how did she ever make the ranks of senior foreign service (SES equivalent for foreign service)? This is a mystery to everyone. She knows nothing and everything she touches has to be redone. She doesn't even seem to delegate effectively. I know from experience as she was once my director. The ONLY good thing here is that she is super nice. but they really couldn't have chosen a more clueless person. It's not like they didn't have choices. There are other executives in audit and they actually know something and come off as decent leaders.
Anonymous
True, USAID OIG could be FUBAR. The OIG community as a whole holds itself to high standards but not this office. USAID OIG is a hot mess of blind careerists, cliques, and clueless managers. I wish I could call the IG Hotline on some of the stuff I see.
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Anonymous wrote:USAID OIG. STAY VERY FAR AWAY FROM THIS ORGANIZATION! The all-caps is VERY INTENTIONAL


Does anyone think highly of any OIG, though?


Actually most OIGs at other Departments are very highly ranked. Look at the list of agency subcomponents. Office of General Counsel is also highly ranked at most agencies. Anything in the top 100 is generally an excellent place to work. Our OIG at my agency is really good to work with and I know the employees are really happy. https://bestplacestowork.org/rankings/?view=overall&size=sub&category=leadership&

1. Office of Inspector General, Tennessee Valley Authority
16. Office of Inspector General , Department of Health and Human Services
40. Office of the Inspector General , Department of the Interior
54. Office of the Inspector General, United States Postal Service
62. Office of the Inspector General , Department of Justice
76. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, Department of the Treasury
83. Office of the Inspector General, General Services Administration
83. Office of the Inspector General, Department of Transportation
87.Office of the Inspector General, Office of the Secretary of Defense, Joint Staff, Defense Agencies, and Department of Defense Field Activities


I second this, especially DOT OIG. I would go back in a heartbeat.


Since Cal Scovel left, DOT OIG is a totally different place! The DAIGI is a climber who knows little about the mission and is extremely toxic. I’d stay away from DOT OIG, unless you are an auditor, that leadership bench has remained stable for many years.
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Anonymous wrote:True, USAID OIG could be FUBAR. The OIG community as a whole holds itself to high standards but not this office. USAID OIG is a hot mess of blind careerists, cliques, and clueless managers. I wish I could call the IG Hotline on some of the stuff I see.


You could make a hotline complaint, but that probably wouldn’t go very far since that goes to Investigations and the DAIGI would squash it as disgruntled employees. If you have actual, solid, proven by evidence complaints, I’d recommended sending a letter to the Congressional committee’s that oversee USAID and also to the CIGIE Integrity Committee. CIGIE’s committee reviews complaints against OIG execs, it is led by 2 IGs and overseen by the FBI. You could also send a complaint to GAO. DHS OIG was investigated by both and it didn’t turn out very well for them, they are still in shambles.

If the issues are just gripes and disagreement on how they are managing the agency, I’d recommend finding a new place to work because sometimes you just have to leave what you perceive as toxic because your thoughts there will not change for the better, regardless of who is in charge. I’ve been there, done that, and never looked back.
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Anonymous wrote:True, USAID OIG could be FUBAR. The OIG community as a whole holds itself to high standards but not this office. USAID OIG is a hot mess of blind careerists, cliques, and clueless managers. I wish I could call the IG Hotline on some of the stuff I see.


You could make a hotline complaint, but that probably wouldn’t go very far since that goes to Investigations and the DAIGI would squash it as disgruntled employees. If you have actual, solid, proven by evidence complaints, I’d recommended sending a letter to the Congressional committee’s that oversee USAID and also to the CIGIE Integrity Committee. CIGIE’s committee reviews complaints against OIG execs, it is led by 2 IGs and overseen by the FBI. You could also send a complaint to GAO. DHS OIG was investigated by both and it didn’t turn out very well for them, they are still in shambles.

If the issues are just gripes and disagreement on how they are managing the agency, I’d recommend finding a new place to work because sometimes you just have to leave what you perceive as toxic because your thoughts there will not change for the better, regardless of who is in charge. I’ve been there, done that, and never looked back.


100% A lot of the complaints amount to people not liking that a certain decision was made. Fine. Maybe a better one could be made or there are multiple options that are good or bad, but was the choice unethical? Illegal? Did you just not like it? Usually it amounts to the last one. If you know your leadership was violating the law, policy, or regulation AND YOU PROVIDE WITNESS NAMES AND WHERE TO GET PROOF, even a reluctant DAIGI will move that forward. Saying someone hires people you don't like and doesn't take your advice is not a punishable offense; providing a generic sky is falling and everyone is corrupt complaint also won't go far.
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Anonymous wrote:USAID OIG. STAY VERY FAR AWAY FROM THIS ORGANIZATION! The all-caps is VERY INTENTIONAL


Does anyone think highly of any OIG, though?


Actually most OIGs at other Departments are very highly ranked. Look at the list of agency subcomponents. Office of General Counsel is also highly ranked at most agencies. Anything in the top 100 is generally an excellent place to work. Our OIG at my agency is really good to work with and I know the employees are really happy. https://bestplacestowork.org/rankings/?view=overall&size=sub&category=leadership&

1. Office of Inspector General, Tennessee Valley Authority
16. Office of Inspector General , Department of Health and Human Services
40. Office of the Inspector General , Department of the Interior
54. Office of the Inspector General, United States Postal Service
62. Office of the Inspector General , Department of Justice
76. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, Department of the Treasury
83. Office of the Inspector General, General Services Administration
83. Office of the Inspector General, Department of Transportation
87.Office of the Inspector General, Office of the Secretary of Defense, Joint Staff, Defense Agencies, and Department of Defense Field Activities


I second this, especially DOT OIG. I would go back in a heartbeat.


Since Cal Scovel left, DOT OIG is a totally different place! The DAIGI is a climber who knows little about the mission and is extremely toxic. I’d stay away from DOT OIG, unless you are an auditor, that leadership bench has remained stable for many years.


Just had to say I miss Cal Scovel. Wasn’t at DOT OIG, but I knew him and he was one of the good IGs. And so nice, too. Like, surprisingly nice for DC.
Anonymous
The statistical agencies can be toxic.
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Anonymous wrote:True, USAID OIG could be FUBAR. The OIG community as a whole holds itself to high standards but not this office. USAID OIG is a hot mess of blind careerists, cliques, and clueless managers. I wish I could call the IG Hotline on some of the stuff I see.


You could make a hotline complaint, but that probably wouldn’t go very far since that goes to Investigations and the DAIGI would squash it as disgruntled employees. If you have actual, solid, proven by evidence complaints, I’d recommended sending a letter to the Congressional committee’s that oversee USAID and also to the CIGIE Integrity Committee. CIGIE’s committee reviews complaints against OIG execs, it is led by 2 IGs and overseen by the FBI. You could also send a complaint to GAO. DHS OIG was investigated by both and it didn’t turn out very well for them, they are still in shambles.

If the issues are just gripes and disagreement on how they are managing the agency, I’d recommend finding a new place to work because sometimes you just have to leave what you perceive as toxic because your thoughts there will not change for the better, regardless of who is in charge. I’ve been there, done that, and never looked back.


100% A lot of the complaints amount to people not liking that a certain decision was made. Fine. Maybe a better one could be made or there are multiple options that are good or bad, but was the choice unethical? Illegal? Did you just not like it? Usually it amounts to the last one. If you know your leadership was violating the law, policy, or regulation AND YOU PROVIDE WITNESS NAMES AND WHERE TO GET PROOF, even a reluctant DAIGI will move that forward. Saying someone hires people you don't like and doesn't take your advice is not a punishable offense; providing a generic sky is falling and everyone is corrupt complaint also won't go far.


You are right. USAID OIG Senior leadership decisions are not exactly illegal. "Unethical" is really hard to prove. There is always a justification for every decision. For example, all those senior leaders hired by the former IG was done through panels. While she made the final decision, she can hide behind the panel sending those names forward. But we are not dumb. we know how this works. That's why nobody actually files the hotline complaint. It's rubbish...and it's all subtle. The appearance of these decisions and actions is another thing, but OIGs only use the appearance argument against the auditee, not internally. The former IG knows some of her executive hires were really bad. If not, two of them would not have been demoted/removed from their position and another chased out the door. And now her bad decision to hire AIGM is wrecking havoc on the organization.

The point that multiple posters are making is that the leadership decisions made have led ZERO IMPROVEMENTS. ZERO! And morale continues to decline. As another poster said, 5 years of survey results show the dissatisfaction. The lack of real leadership is driving the organization into the ground. BTW, you sound like one of our lackluster executives. If by chance this is true, then answer this: why can't we keep good talent? Every good employee leaves this organization after 2-3 years, if they make it that long? the good employees that do stay are mostly foreign service. They are stuck stick it out for the FS benefits. We've had quite a few employees leave after being here just a couple of months, especially in the management office. You know this organization is toxic. You know that our management office and their leaders are trash. Don't act like you don't know the truth!
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