The Urgency of Normal

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I really don't understand all these democrats arguing for more anti-covid measures when it's largely republicans that are dying.


Maybe they aren't sociopaths who discount a person's death based on their voting habits?


But those people have the ability to get vaccinated. Demanding anti-covid measures to protect people who decided not to get vaccinated is nonsensical.

People who are double vaccinated, have had a booster, and wear a high quality mask are at extremely low risk even if they encounter unvaccinated people. It is not necessary to continue with a bunch of restrictions.


Perhaps under normal circumstances. Perhaps not if, as teachers say, they are crowded 25-35 people in a room with 30 of those people who are unvaccinated. I don't want my kid in that mix unmasked, either.


You have every right to tell your kid to wear a mask. However, it's not reasonable to force everyone else to do it as well.
Actually it is because it is for the common good. However, I have a feeling that you don't value the common good ...


Forcing everyone into various restrictions indefinitely is not promoting the common good.

People who are boosted and wear a high quality mask are very low risk.


Soooooo...you take that risk. There is no way you can force someone else, namely a teacher, to take that risk for you. See how that works? If you're willing to take the risk, then go teach. If you're not willing to take the risk, then don't tell others what risk level is acceptable for them. I'm a teacher. Your "low risk" level is too high for me. Try to force me to teach in a classroom without every student masked, and watch me walk out the door.


Perhaps that is the solution? The idea that a class of children should be obligated to wear masks indefinitely to accommodate you is nonsense.
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I really don't understand all these democrats arguing for more anti-covid measures when it's largely republicans that are dying.


Maybe they aren't sociopaths who discount a person's death based on their voting habits?


But those people have the ability to get vaccinated. Demanding anti-covid measures to protect people who decided not to get vaccinated is nonsensical.

People who are double vaccinated, have had a booster, and wear a high quality mask are at extremely low risk even if they encounter unvaccinated people. It is not necessary to continue with a bunch of restrictions.


Perhaps under normal circumstances. Perhaps not if, as teachers say, they are crowded 25-35 people in a room with 30 of those people who are unvaccinated. I don't want my kid in that mix unmasked, either.


You have every right to tell your kid to wear a mask. However, it's not reasonable to force everyone else to do it as well.
Actually it is because it is for the common good. However, I have a feeling that you don't value the common good ...


Forcing everyone into various restrictions indefinitely is not promoting the common good.

People who are boosted and wear a high quality mask are very low risk.


Soooooo...you take that risk. There is no way you can force someone else, namely a teacher, to take that risk for you. See how that works? If you're willing to take the risk, then go teach. If you're not willing to take the risk, then don't tell others what risk level is acceptable for them. I'm a teacher. Your "low risk" level is too high for me. Try to force me to teach in a classroom without every student masked, and watch me walk out the door.


Perhaps that is the solution? The idea that a class of children should be obligated to wear masks indefinitely to accommodate you is nonsense.


DP. I don't care about the masks either way but if I were you, I would stop telling teachers to leave. There are warm bodies who'll take their place and will be fine without masks, but they're probably not who you want teaching your kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I really don't understand all these democrats arguing for more anti-covid measures when it's largely republicans that are dying.


Maybe they aren't sociopaths who discount a person's death based on their voting habits?


But those people have the ability to get vaccinated. Demanding anti-covid measures to protect people who decided not to get vaccinated is nonsensical.

People who are double vaccinated, have had a booster, and wear a high quality mask are at extremely low risk even if they encounter unvaccinated people. It is not necessary to continue with a bunch of restrictions.


Perhaps under normal circumstances. Perhaps not if, as teachers say, they are crowded 25-35 people in a room with 30 of those people who are unvaccinated. I don't want my kid in that mix unmasked, either.


You have every right to tell your kid to wear a mask. However, it's not reasonable to force everyone else to do it as well.
Actually it is because it is for the common good. However, I have a feeling that you don't value the common good ...


Forcing everyone into various restrictions indefinitely is not promoting the common good.

People who are boosted and wear a high quality mask are very low risk.


Soooooo...you take that risk. There is no way you can force someone else, namely a teacher, to take that risk for you. See how that works? If you're willing to take the risk, then go teach. If you're not willing to take the risk, then don't tell others what risk level is acceptable for them. I'm a teacher. Your "low risk" level is too high for me. Try to force me to teach in a classroom without every student masked, and watch me walk out the door.


Perhaps that is the solution? The idea that a class of children should be obligated to wear masks indefinitely to accommodate you is nonsense.


DP. I don't care about the masks either way but if I were you, I would stop telling teachers to leave. There are warm bodies who'll take their place and will be fine without masks, but they're probably not who you want teaching your kids.


Exactly. If the willingness to not wear a mask is your only metric ... Sheesh. It is hard to take that kind of statement seriously.
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Today I got hassled at a museum over why my just turned two year old wasn't wearing a mask. I lied and said he was 23 months, but are we really doing this? Hassling two year olds for a mask break in non-crowded spaces where all adults are masked?

And then an indoor extracurricular for my toddler got canceled unexpectedly because not enough parents were willing to sign up for an indoor activity.

I know these are small things, but I am trying so hard to give my kid some normalcy now that Covid numbers are low. Frustrated.
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Anonymous wrote:Today I got hassled at a museum over why my just turned two year old wasn't wearing a mask. I lied and said he was 23 months, but are we really doing this? Hassling two year olds for a mask break in non-crowded spaces where all adults are masked?

And then an indoor extracurricular for my toddler got canceled unexpectedly because not enough parents were willing to sign up for an indoor activity.

I know these are small things, but I am trying so hard to give my kid some normalcy now that Covid numbers are low. Frustrated.


Simple solution follow the rules. You are selfish.

Why is it a surprise people don't want indoor activities with people like you who refuse to mask or take precautions.
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I haven't read every single comment but I'm glad to see I'm not alone. I do believe there is an urgency of normal. I'm tired of getting the recommended masks and vaccines and then still being here with lots of anxiety around us and without seeing the mental health / social side effect talked about. Oh and still having kids in masks, distanced, and having silent lunches. Part of the off ramp, if people ever accept there should be one, is undoing all the damage of the last two years. I'm also tired of writing my school and public officials and being passed around. I thought the vaccine for kids would reassure those who needed to be reassured, but here we are back with low covid rates, fully vaccinated, and still fully masked and distanced. I want to join the next parking lot scream.
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Anonymous wrote:Today I got hassled at a museum over why my just turned two year old wasn't wearing a mask. I lied and said he was 23 months, but are we really doing this? Hassling two year olds for a mask break in non-crowded spaces where all adults are masked?

And then an indoor extracurricular for my toddler got canceled unexpectedly because not enough parents were willing to sign up for an indoor activity.

I know these are small things, but I am trying so hard to give my kid some normalcy now that Covid numbers are low. Frustrated.


Cases are not low.
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Anonymous wrote:Plus, I really don't understand all these democrats arguing for more anti-covid measures when it's largely republicans that are dying.


Maybe they aren't sociopaths who discount a person's death based on their voting habits?


But those people have the ability to get vaccinated. Demanding anti-covid measures to protect people who decided not to get vaccinated is nonsensical.

People who are double vaccinated, have had a booster, and wear a high quality mask are at extremely low risk even if they encounter unvaccinated people. It is not necessary to continue with a bunch of restrictions.


Perhaps under normal circumstances. Perhaps not if, as teachers say, they are crowded 25-35 people in a room with 30 of those people who are unvaccinated. I don't want my kid in that mix unmasked, either.


You have every right to tell your kid to wear a mask. However, it's not reasonable to force everyone else to do it as well.
Actually it is because it is for the common good. However, I have a feeling that you don't value the common good ...


Forcing everyone into various restrictions indefinitely is not promoting the common good.

People who are boosted and wear a high quality mask are very low risk.


Soooooo...you take that risk. There is no way you can force someone else, namely a teacher, to take that risk for you. See how that works? If you're willing to take the risk, then go teach. If you're not willing to take the risk, then don't tell others what risk level is acceptable for them. I'm a teacher. Your "low risk" level is too high for me. Try to force me to teach in a classroom without every student masked, and watch me walk out the door.


Perhaps that is the solution? The idea that a class of children should be obligated to wear masks indefinitely to accommodate you is nonsense.


Darling, there are not swaths of eager teachers waiting in the wings to take her place. Enjoy your incompetent serial subs.
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Anonymous wrote:Today I got hassled at a museum over why my just turned two year old wasn't wearing a mask. I lied and said he was 23 months, but are we really doing this? Hassling two year olds for a mask break in non-crowded spaces where all adults are masked?

And then an indoor extracurricular for my toddler got canceled unexpectedly because not enough parents were willing to sign up for an indoor activity.

I know these are small things, but I am trying so hard to give my kid some normalcy now that Covid numbers are low. Frustrated.


Yea. Museums are optional. Follow the rules or don’t use them. Take your “mask breaks” outside.
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How many deaf or blind people have deficient emotional recognition or literacy or speech/sign language skills?
That is not a thing! There is no rational reason to believe that wearing masks will cause kids harm.


My feelings about masks changed REALLY fast when my son’s preschool teacher admitted she can’t understand him in a mask. And that he has basically stopped talking aside from when he has his mask off for meals (and then he talks A LOT). I think kids can’t always describe their feelings about masks, it’s not that they painful or something but for kids who are still developing their language they can feel like a muzzle. If you know a preschool teacher ask them if they can really understand all the 3 year olds in their class when they are masked. I appreciated mine being honest.

I teach upper elementary and can't understand most students through a mask. It's especially a problem for more introverted children who have to already work up the courage to speak up.
They can't usually hear me well either I am told although I go home with a sore throat daily from shouting through my mask.


Then you’re doing it wrong. Learn to use your air and project from your diaphragm. When done correctly, it will not strain your throat.
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The people complaining about masks don't think COVID is a problem. Or even, on some level, think that COVID will stop being a problem if we stop wearing masks. So, take any specific complaint about masks with a grain of salt.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has the opportunity to get vaxxed. If people choose not to do it, it's on them. If it overwhelms the health care industry so they can't do their for-profit elective surgeries, that is on them. I think we should all go back to normal life - like in Europe - and maybe the idea that we will no longer wear masks to protect the unvaccinated will encourage them to get vaxxed.


The unvaxxed aren’t the only ones affected by overwhelmed hospitals. I currently have a family member waiting for life-saving surgery, but it is still considered “elective” and on hold. This is why everyone needs to do their part. Each person’s own individual choices and behaviors will affect others, whether they see it that way or not.


pp, if you are reading this-- tell your family member to go 'hospital shopping,' depending upon the type of surgery. In many places (esp in the dmv area) the hospitals are NOT overloaded (there was some minor throttling that happened for a couple of weeks, but that is largely over now); if one hospital in town is still not doing elective surgeries or is only at 70 percent, another a few min away (where the surgeon also has privileges)may be.
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Vaccinated kids are not stuffing hospitals. Shaming vaccinated people is counter productive.
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Anonymous wrote:Today I got hassled at a museum over why my just turned two year old wasn't wearing a mask. I lied and said he was 23 months, but are we really doing this? Hassling two year olds for a mask break in non-crowded spaces where all adults are masked?

And then an indoor extracurricular for my toddler got canceled unexpectedly because not enough parents were willing to sign up for an indoor activity.

I know these are small things, but I am trying so hard to give my kid some normalcy now that Covid numbers are low. Frustrated.


Cases are not low.


Yes. They are - and trending lower every day.
Anonymous
I don't see anyone complaining about all the big sporting events like the Super Bowl. Those are super spreader events that reverberate back down to the community and increase the amount of time until we return to normal.
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