The Urgency of Normal

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Dominoes falling!

So not in schools until April.

Yes, numbers should be down a lot by then.

I'm sure the non-quacks will agree this is a good idea to make masks optional - when we aren't right in the middle of a surge.

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Forcing children to mask in schools indefinitely doesn't sound like a liberal position to me.

OK. Zero politicians are pushing for indefinite masking so it shouldn't be a worry for you.

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Where do you think all the people who are dying of covid are catching it ?

They are catching it from someone else, weather it’s at work, a home party, sports game, supermarket, or from their relatives.

I agree that huge crowds shouldn’t be allowed if you are making schools go virtual but there needs to be a cohesive community strategy!

I don’t agree with Australia on all their methods but they literally just kicked out an a list sports star from a major tournament for not being vaccinated and the population largely agreed, their people shared a common goal, and their very low covid death rates is a credit to that.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know that there hasn't been covid outbreaks in those schools if they haven't been testing? No, i doubt that the schools you discribe test adequetly.

Everybody I know who had it only knew so because they had a lateral flow or PCR test though workplace routine screening when they had common cold/flu symptoms. The odd few had no sympoms at all and tested at the right time though dumb luck.

You're missing the point, which isn't that no one has COVID ever again, but that people don't get super sick and die. So if we don't test as much, and most people don't get super sick and die, we're good.

Yes, the US dosen't have the highest covid death rate of rich countries, oh wait.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/01/science/covid-deaths-united-states.html

And the day will come when health officials have the courage to say that this is because our country is so fat!

[Anonymous]

Now Connecticut is getting in on the action!

[Anonymous]

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Forcing children to mask in schools indefinitely doesn't sound like a liberal position to me.

OK. Zero politicians are pushing for indefinite masking so it shouldn't be a worry for you.

Well unless they are talking about plans for when and how to remove mask mandates in schools, the mandates won’t just disappear on their own. Since the democratic lawmakers in my jurisdiction aren’t discussing removing the mask mandate or the issues associated with long term masking in schools, especially for the youngest students, they are essentially in favor of indefinite masking.

But ok roll your eyes.

[Anonymous]

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Now Connecticut is getting in on the action!

So not until March. Not right in the middle of a surge.

[Anonymous]

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Forcing children to mask in schools indefinitely doesn't sound like a liberal position to me.

OK. Zero politicians are pushing for indefinite masking so it shouldn't be a worry for you.

Well unless they are talking about plans for when and how to remove mask mandates in schools, the mandates won’t just disappear on their own. Since the democratic lawmakers in my jurisdiction aren’t discussing removing the mask mandate or the issues associated with long term masking in schools, especially for the youngest students, they are essentially in favor of indefinite masking.

But ok roll your eyes.

The CDC will change guidelines. Schools will change their policies.

It's really not that complicated.

[Anonymous]

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Forcing children to mask in schools indefinitely doesn't sound like a liberal position to me.

OK. Zero politicians are pushing for indefinite masking so it shouldn't be a worry for you.

You should take a look at the mayor of Boston

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Now Connecticut is getting in on the action!

So not until March. Not right in the middle of a surge.

Do you think that we in the DMV are in the "middle of a surge?"

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Some might see this as a feature which would permit / add momentum to a radical rethinking of schooling. If teachers are invested in the status quo, they need to keep the ship afloat.

We don't particularly need a radical re-thinking of schooling. There are plenty of school systems around the world that are getting better results than what we have in the U.S. (E.g. Finland, Singapore, Ontario, Alberta, Estonia, Hong Kong, Japan, Poland, Shanghai, and Taiwan). We don't need to re-invent the wheel, we just need to copy what's working elsewhere.

Ha. Our public systems are too proud and arrogant to even learn from charters! They just wring their hands and moan about why they can’t help the way they are.

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Now Connecticut is getting in on the action!

So not until March. Not right in the middle of a surge.

Do you think that we in the DMV are in the "middle of a surge?"

We were on Jan 15th.

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I was responding to a post about schools in RED districts!

Lax covid mitigation measures in schools in those areas likely is contributing to spread unvaxed, high risk adults the kids and staff interact with out of school.

I'm the PP who brought this up, and I was comparing our experience in DC (very blue area, lots of Covid restrictions) with friends who live in a Southern red state. We literally just had dinner with the friends, who are themselves very liberal, pro-mask, pro-science (they are in fact scientists). When the pandemic started, they were terrified of living where they lived because people were very anti-mask and skeptical of Covid. They barely left their house for a year, and did not even do take out or similar things because they were so concerned. Their kids did virtual school from home.

But the second year of the pandemic was very different and they were both actually required to go to work in-person, and their kids schools ended virtual. They were the people yelling about this. And then... nothing. Many people in their community actually did get vaccinated, and their overall vaccination rating is actually pretty close to DCs. Schools opened there full time in person, without issues. Especially at the elementary level, it just does not appear that Covid is a concern there. Teachers who wanted to be vaxed could vaccinate. For a time they even weren't allowed to wear masks because their GOP governor wouldn't allow it (now they are back in masks but likely to drop them before school is out this year). But they just haven't seen the crisis that was predicted. Not in the schools and not in the surrounding areas. There is just no indication that school was a dangerous place for kids OR that kids in school was leading others to get it. I have to assume masks and vaccines helped but it was 100% use either.

It's just very hard to justify the burden on kids and families in blue states when you see these experiences elsewhere. Is Covid still killing people? Yes, it is. But not kids. And not their vaccinated teacher or parents either.

You need to start being wiling to accept some counter evidence against some of your assumptions. Again, I'm liberal. I think Republicans are mostly either cynical or deluded. But increasingly a lot fo the liberals I know are similar, just on different issues. We can't "win" Covid as an issue. It's an apolitical virus. Forcing children to mask in schools indefinitely doesn't sound like a liberal position to me. It sounds like an anti-Trump position. I think we need to start separating these things out.

+1. This, plus it is simply a power play.

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Now Connecticut is getting in on the action!

So not until March. Not right in the middle of a surge.

Do you think that we in the DMV are in the "middle of a surge?"

We were on Jan 15th.

Not really, no. Hospitals were fine. Sure, cases went up some because people were frantically testing. Deaths increased a little, but not much.

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Now Connecticut is getting in on the action!

So not until March. Not right in the middle of a surge.

Do you think that we in the DMV are in the "middle of a surge?"

We were on Jan 15th.

Not really, no. Hospitals were fine. Sure, cases went up some because people were frantically testing. Deaths increased a little, but not much.

LOL at you. "deaths increased a little" Guessing from your cavalier attitude that you don't know anyone who died and even if you did you wouldn't care. Yuck. You're a disgusting person.