do college admissions get ugly at the Big3 when all the parents are Ivy grads?

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That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

[Anonymous]

The closeted ugliness is when low stat rich URM kids get into Ivies, Stanford and Duke over the actual top students in the school. Happens each and every year.

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Anonymous wrote:It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

My theory is that some bitter parents want a target for their ire when Larlo and Larla don't get into X school and want to whine about how whoever was admitted was somehow less qualified or deserving.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

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No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

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No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

I don't know about any other schools, but NCS does not do this. They have a five-year list similar to Sidwell's, broken down by 10+, 5+, etc. attending.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

+1 many schools do this, and it has been helpful in figuring out a range of expectations for my DC's. I personally think the attitude of secrecy Sidwell creates around all of this from test scores, to applications, to admissions is incredibly unhealthy and actually feeds the anxiety and competition they are trying to protect these young adults from -- time to rip off the bubble wrap.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

+1 many schools do this, and it has been helpful in figuring out a range of expectations for my DC's. I personally think the attitude of secrecy Sidwell creates around all of this from test scores, to applications, to admissions is incredibly unhealthy and actually feeds the anxiety and competition they are trying to protect these young adults from -- time to rip off the bubble wrap.

Parents and kids are such that they just assume someone less qualified is getting in over their child. There is no more secrecy at Sidwell than other schools. I think people just want to judge who gets in where and figure out whether it was grades, connections or a recruited athlete. Knowing the specifics does not change the range of expectations for any child there. It is just pure curiosity to somehow mentally rank the kids in the class. If your child truly wants to know they can ask the “supposed” students they look up to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 many schools do this, and it has been helpful in figuring out a range of expectations for my DC's. I personally think the attitude of secrecy Sidwell creates around all of this from test scores, to applications, to admissions is incredibly unhealthy and actually feeds the anxiety and competition they are trying to protect these young adults from -- time to rip off the bubble wrap.

Why do you think that the aggregate list doesn't provide enough data to figure out a range of expectations for your DCs?

By senior year, you should be able to make educated guesses about roughly where DC sits in the grade from a holistic qualifications standpoint -- top 10 percent, top third, top whatever -- and then see which schools in the aggregate list fall under the top X percent of matriculations, after defining the "top X percent of schools" however you want or using the US News or whatever ranking as a proxy. That's should be plenty of data to shape your reaches, targets, and safeties from an expectations standpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

+1 many schools do this, and it has been helpful in figuring out a range of expectations for my DC's. I personally think the attitude of secrecy Sidwell creates around all of this from test scores, to applications, to admissions is incredibly unhealthy and actually feeds the anxiety and competition they are trying to protect these young adults from -- time to rip off the bubble wrap.

Parents and kids are such that they just assume someone less qualified is getting in over their child. There is no more secrecy at Sidwell than other schools. I think people just want to judge who gets in where and figure out whether it was grades, connections or a recruited athlete. Knowing the specifics does not change the range of expectations for any child there. It is just pure curiosity to somehow mentally rank the kids in the class. If your child truly wants to know they can ask the “supposed” students they look up to.

Are you really suggesting that high school freshman and sophomores should be asking seniors in the month of May where they are going to college? Come on.

Also, what do you mean by "supposed"? You think people are making this up? It is relevant to students to know where older students whom they admired ended up going to college. My own student has stated this to me. Also, you are ignoring the fact that many other schools do in fact publish this information. So there is more secrecy at Sidwell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

+1 many schools do this, and it has been helpful in figuring out a range of expectations for my DC's. I personally think the attitude of secrecy Sidwell creates around all of this from test scores, to applications, to admissions is incredibly unhealthy and actually feeds the anxiety and competition they are trying to protect these young adults from -- time to rip off the bubble wrap.

Parents and kids are such that they just assume someone less qualified is getting in over their child. There is no more secrecy at Sidwell than other schools. I think people just want to judge who gets in where and figure out whether it was grades, connections or a recruited athlete. Knowing the specifics does not change the range of expectations for any child there. It is just pure curiosity to somehow mentally rank the kids in the class. If your child truly wants to know they can ask the “supposed” students they look up to.

Are you really suggesting that high school freshman and sophomores should be asking seniors in the month of May where they are going to college? Come on.

Also, what do you mean by "supposed"? You think people are making this up? It is relevant to students to know where older students whom they admired ended up going to college. My own student has stated this to me. Also, you are ignoring the fact that many other schools do in fact publish this information. So there is more secrecy at Sidwell.

All seniors will be wearing their college shirts on May 1. So your freshman will find out then.

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Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

+1 many schools do this, and it has been helpful in figuring out a range of expectations for my DC's. I personally think the attitude of secrecy Sidwell creates around all of this from test scores, to applications, to admissions is incredibly unhealthy and actually feeds the anxiety and competition they are trying to protect these young adults from -- time to rip off the bubble wrap.

Parents and kids are such that they just assume someone less qualified is getting in over their child. There is no more secrecy at Sidwell than other schools. I think people just want to judge who gets in where and figure out whether it was grades, connections or a recruited athlete. Knowing the specifics does not change the range of expectations for any child there. It is just pure curiosity to somehow mentally rank the kids in the class. If your child truly wants to know they can ask the “supposed” students they look up to.

Are you really suggesting that high school freshman and sophomores should be asking seniors in the month of May where they are going to college? Come on.

Also, what do you mean by "supposed"? You think people are making this up? It is relevant to students to know where older students whom they admired ended up going to college. My own student has stated this to me. Also, you are ignoring the fact that many other schools do in fact publish this information. So there is more secrecy at Sidwell.

All seniors will be wearing their college shirts on May 1. So your freshman will find out then.

GMAFB. You know that’s not the point but youre just making up nonsense responses. Why doesn’t Sidwell publish a list like many other schools do?

I swear, there are some commenters on this forum who would defend Sidwell if they served the students dirt for lunch. “Don’t you know dirt is highly nutritious?” “Why do you think they should serve something other than dirt?” “Why doesn’t your student go to Chipotle or Nando’s like other kids if they don’t like the dirt?”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's an aggregate list. I think PPs are talking about which individuals ended up where?

Which is only the business of the students. It is weird that there is a demand to know what students when to what specific schools. If it isn't your kid or a friend of the family (in which case, you would know) what difference does it make?

These aggregate lists provide enough of a sample for people to figure out generally where kids go to college.

+1

No school makes a list of where individual students matriculate available to anyone. If the kids want to post where they're going on a class Instagram account or something like that, that's their choice, but the school has no business making that information available.

Most schools absolutely publish such a list in their magazine.

As we are beginning our own college exploration process, my Sidwell junior has commented that it would be helpful to see the destinations of last year's senior class, to give them perspective on where students ended up generally and also specifically to see where students they looked up to and admire are in school. That is an aspect of what peer leadership is all about, to the question of what difference does it make.

Your junior can ask the CCO. But they aren't going to publish it beyond what they already do.

[Anonymous]

Are you really suggesting that high school freshman and sophomores should be asking seniors in the month of May where they are going to college? Come on.

Also, what do you mean by "supposed"? You think people are making this up? It is relevant to students to know where older students whom they admired ended up going to college. My own student has stated this to me. Also, you are ignoring the fact that many other schools do in fact publish this information. So there is more secrecy at Sidwell.

Then they should ask the student they admired. It is a small school, they all know each other. Really what difference does it make if the person they admired went to Michigan or Amherst? Will it improve their chances? Will it make them prefer a big school to a small school? Come on, man.