What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

I really like hiking but I do feel like for some people, there’s either a performative aspect (especially where people are posting on SM) or they are trying to prove something to themselves.
It’s like people who insist on flying halfway across the world to go to a beach because all the beaches closer are too basic, or people. There can be a compulsive need to prove to yourself that you are more (fill in the blank) than other people.
Maybe this family was killed by drug dealers or a weird climate gas escape or something, but it just seems that a hike like this with a baby and furry dog—odds are that it would not end well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

With a baby and a dog? Come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

Her date might have been experienced, but she was not. And neither had any water with them. And this was a mountain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

I'm in the heatstroke camp, but I don't think this is a good comparison. The woman who died in AZ had just flown in from Boston, which can lead to dehydration. Neither she or her date brought water with them and he abandoned her partway through the short hike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

Her date might have been experienced, but she was not. And neither had any water with them. And this was a mountain.

What's the altitude change of Camelback Mountain? From what I understand, the trail the couple started up on was less than 1.5 miles and she only went part way up before turning back, so she hiked less than 3 miles and was going back down when she suffered heatstroke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

Her date might have been experienced, but she was not. And neither had any water with them. And this was a mountain.

And this family was completely experienced - had hiked in multiple deserts - had water on them - was hiking difficult terrain. Still died.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If cell phones don’t work, why doesn’t a national park have emergency phones at least every half mile?

We just pissed away $2 trillion in Afghanistan but our national parks sound dangerous and underfunded.

There are over 81,000 square miles of national parks in the US. That's a lot of emergency phones.

Sq/miles != trails. The average college campus seems to put emergency phones every 50 ft.

There are more Brett Ks per sq mike on college campuses than national parks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If cell phones don’t work, why doesn’t a national park have emergency phones at least every half mile?

We just pissed away $2 trillion in Afghanistan but our national parks sound dangerous and underfunded.

Congrats. That’s the dumbest DCUM post of the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

95+ here with humidity is 1000x worse than 105+ with no humidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

Her date might have been experienced, but she was not. And neither had any water with them. And this was a mountain.

What's the altitude change of Camelback Mountain? From what I understand, the trail the couple started up on was less than 1.5 miles and she only went part way up before turning back, so she hiked less than 3 miles and was going back down when she suffered heatstroke.

Camelback is a difficult hike, in parts there isn't really a paved trail and you're climbing over rocks to get to the top which is around 2700 ft. It's almost as bad coming down, again, because of all the rocks you have to pick over. That said, I have done this with a child in high temps in May and it didn't occur to me someone could die the way she did. I worry more about falling, twisting an ankle and snake bites. I would never go without water, alone, or in July. That was just a bad idea. I think the circumstances of the first date led her to over exert herself more than she could handle.

[Anonymous]

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What is "WS"?

Please read the f&&king thread. WS is WebSleuths - a forum targeted towards missing and murdered cases. FA is Familly Annihilation - when one spouse decides to kill his or her entire family.

DP. Those aren't common acronyms, or if they are, they aren't common on DCUM.

It is very common on this dumb thread. Read back a few pages if you are having trouble following.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is hiking some trendy fad with liberal yuppies? This couple was clearly very into it — to the point of risking their health/life for it. And just now NYT shared a story on their main social media accounts reviewing hiking boots.

What’s the allure? I’m not anti nature but hiking is pretty boring.

I think 75% of families we know have hiked in last 2 years. Very popular during pandemic. Even here in the DC area.

It’s definitely very popular in outdoorsy areas like CA, CO, VT, etc. Even pre-pandemic

[Anonymous]

LE's satellite phones did not work where they were found on the trail. A PLB may have worked and could have saved their lives. Costs have really come down, it is a great safety item esp if hiking or camping with kids.

[Anonymous]

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d) Buy a iPhone 13 which will have the same capabilities as a SAT phone

For real?!?! That’s so cool.

Finally, this thread is not worthless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If cell phones don’t work, why doesn’t a national park have emergency phones at least every half mile?

We just pissed away $2 trillion in Afghanistan but our national parks sound dangerous and underfunded.

There are over 81,000 square miles of national parks in the US. That's a lot of emergency phones.

I really hope this person suggesting phones every half mile is joking. I can't believe anyone would think like this about our national land.

No - they were completely serious about destroying pristine lands and the environment because they don't want to be inconvenienced while doing something that was inherently risky in the first place.

anyone here ever been to the adirondacks? They used to have emergency phones every few miles.