If Jesus wasn’t a real historical figure, where did Christian theology come from?

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“As an atheist, I’ve got no dog in this fight.”

Continues to fight, dogs be dammed.

DP here. Who says atheists have no interest in this "fight"?

It is religious people trying to take human rights away that make a fight necessary.

So pretending Jesus never existed and lying about his life on earth to deceive people helps you maintain “rights” how?

In America, we have freedom of religion, to practice as we choose, and you and others on this thread wish you could take that right away. People who want to abolish freedom of religion but worry about their “rights” and hypocritical.

I did not do that at all - in fact I did the opposite YOU LIAR.

I asked to see the evidence he was a god. Because I haven't seen any. And you, apparently, have none either.

Atheists openly admit on this thread that they are denying the historicity of Jesus Christ because they don’t like the issue of abortion being moved back to the states.

Atheists admitting they don’t like “the supernatural” and believe “the world would be a much better place without it.” (That’s the state mandated atheism communists love so much fyi)

An atheist angrily asking for evidence of “god,” despite being reminded many, many times in this forum that science doesn’t have the tools, capabilities, tests, instruments, etc, to prove or disprove God. Religious belief is personal and based on faith. You are asking the same question, getting the same correct answer. Do you think something has changed in the last few days since you asked and were answered?

The denial of the historical existence of Christ in this forum is based on atheists with agendas…out of step with scholarship and evidence and facts. Funny, as atheists pretend they adore “evidence.”

You are either confused or you’re lying. Nobody here denied he existed.

You mean other than the OP of this thread? Talk about gaslighting.

Ha that’s funny I read it exactly the opposite, that the OP was a theist. Genuinely thought that.

I’m the OP of this thread. I started it almost a year ago. Surprised to see it’s still going.
I was reading about the origins of world religions with my eighth grader, and we were looking at different maps of the ancient world in this book:

There is a pretty clear and specific map of where St Paul went and where he established churches. (There are also maps of where Buddha and Mohammed went and when). I was wondering what people thought his teachings were based on if not some kind of reality, even if they thought it was distorted.

That’s funny that people interpreted my question as thirst or atheist.
I am Catholic, but, as a Catholic, I am open to doubt and other ideas. I actually thought several answers in this thread were really helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“As an atheist, I’ve got no dog in this fight.”

Continues to fight, dogs be dammed.

DP here. Who says atheists have no interest in this "fight"?

It is religious people trying to take human rights away that make a fight necessary.

So pretending Jesus never existed and lying about his life on earth to deceive people helps you maintain “rights” how?

In America, we have freedom of religion, to practice as we choose, and you and others on this thread wish you could take that right away. People who want to abolish freedom of religion but worry about their “rights” and hypocritical.

I did not do that at all - in fact I did the opposite YOU LIAR.

I asked to see the evidence he was a god. Because I haven't seen any. And you, apparently, have none either.

Atheists openly admit on this thread that they are denying the historicity of Jesus Christ because they don’t like the issue of abortion being moved back to the states.

Atheists admitting they don’t like “the supernatural” and believe “the world would be a much better place without it.” (That’s the state mandated atheism communists love so much fyi)

An atheist angrily asking for evidence of “god,” despite being reminded many, many times in this forum that science doesn’t have the tools, capabilities, tests, instruments, etc, to prove or disprove God. Religious belief is personal and based on faith. You are asking the same question, getting the same correct answer. Do you think something has changed in the last few days since you asked and were answered?

The denial of the historical existence of Christ in this forum is based on atheists with agendas…out of step with scholarship and evidence and facts. Funny, as atheists pretend they adore “evidence.”

You are either confused or you’re lying. Nobody here denied he existed.

You mean other than the OP of this thread? Talk about gaslighting.

Ha that’s funny I read it exactly the opposite, that the OP was a theist. Genuinely thought that.

I’m the OP of this thread. I started it almost a year ago. Surprised to see it’s still going.
I was reading about the origins of world religions with my eighth grader, and we were looking at different maps of the ancient world in this book:

There is a pretty clear and specific map of where St Paul went and where he established churches. (There are also maps of where Buddha and Mohammed went and when). I was wondering what people thought his teachings were based on if not some kind of reality, even if they thought it was distorted.

That’s funny that people interpreted my question as thirst or atheist.
I am Catholic, but, as a Catholic, I am open to doubt and other ideas. I actually thought several answers in this thread were really helpful.

Sorry…this book:

https://www.amazon.com/History-World-Map-DK/dp/1465475850/ref=asc_df_1465475850/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312114660688&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5297823334967907540&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9024572&hvtargid=pla-551265269969&psc=1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“As an atheist, I’ve got no dog in this fight.”

Continues to fight, dogs be dammed.

DP here. Who says atheists have no interest in this "fight"?

It is religious people trying to take human rights away that make a fight necessary.

So pretending Jesus never existed and lying about his life on earth to deceive people helps you maintain “rights” how?

In America, we have freedom of religion, to practice as we choose, and you and others on this thread wish you could take that right away. People who want to abolish freedom of religion but worry about their “rights” and hypocritical.

I did not do that at all - in fact I did the opposite YOU LIAR.

I asked to see the evidence he was a god. Because I haven't seen any. And you, apparently, have none either.

Atheists openly admit on this thread that they are denying the historicity of Jesus Christ because they don’t like the issue of abortion being moved back to the states.

Atheists admitting they don’t like “the supernatural” and believe “the world would be a much better place without it.” (That’s the state mandated atheism communists love so much fyi)

An atheist angrily asking for evidence of “god,” despite being reminded many, many times in this forum that science doesn’t have the tools, capabilities, tests, instruments, etc, to prove or disprove God. Religious belief is personal and based on faith. You are asking the same question, getting the same correct answer. Do you think something has changed in the last few days since you asked and were answered?

The denial of the historical existence of Christ in this forum is based on atheists with agendas…out of step with scholarship and evidence and facts. Funny, as atheists pretend they adore “evidence.”

You are either confused or you’re lying. Nobody here denied he existed.

You mean other than the OP of this thread? Talk about gaslighting.

Ha that’s funny I read it exactly the opposite, that the OP was a theist. Genuinely thought that.

I’m the OP of this thread. I started it almost a year ago. Surprised to see it’s still going.
I was reading about the origins of world religions with my eighth grader, and we were looking at different maps of the ancient world in this book:

There is a pretty clear and specific map of where St Paul went and where he established churches. (There are also maps of where Buddha and Mohammed went and when). I was wondering what people thought his teachings were based on if not some kind of reality, even if they thought it was distorted.

That’s funny that people interpreted my question as thirst or atheist.
I am Catholic, but, as a Catholic, I am open to doubt and other ideas. I actually thought several answers in this thread were really helpful.

If I were teaching a child or looking for answers about this topic, I’d read some actual sourced information from a credible source. Lots of sketchy opinions here without sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“As an atheist, I’ve got no dog in this fight.”

Continues to fight, dogs be dammed.

DP here. Who says atheists have no interest in this "fight"?

It is religious people trying to take human rights away that make a fight necessary.

So pretending Jesus never existed and lying about his life on earth to deceive people helps you maintain “rights” how?

In America, we have freedom of religion, to practice as we choose, and you and others on this thread wish you could take that right away. People who want to abolish freedom of religion but worry about their “rights” and hypocritical.

I did not do that at all - in fact I did the opposite YOU LIAR.

I asked to see the evidence he was a god. Because I haven't seen any. And you, apparently, have none either.

Atheists openly admit on this thread that they are denying the historicity of Jesus Christ because they don’t like the issue of abortion being moved back to the states.

Atheists admitting they don’t like “the supernatural” and believe “the world would be a much better place without it.” (That’s the state mandated atheism communists love so much fyi)

An atheist angrily asking for evidence of “god,” despite being reminded many, many times in this forum that science doesn’t have the tools, capabilities, tests, instruments, etc, to prove or disprove God. Religious belief is personal and based on faith. You are asking the same question, getting the same correct answer. Do you think something has changed in the last few days since you asked and were answered?

The denial of the historical existence of Christ in this forum is based on atheists with agendas…out of step with scholarship and evidence and facts. Funny, as atheists pretend they adore “evidence.”

You are either confused or you’re lying. Nobody here denied he existed.

You mean other than the OP of this thread? Talk about gaslighting.

Ha that’s funny I read it exactly the opposite, that the OP was a theist. Genuinely thought that.

I’m the OP of this thread. I started it almost a year ago. Surprised to see it’s still going.
I was reading about the origins of world religions with my eighth grader, and we were looking at different maps of the ancient world in this book:

There is a pretty clear and specific map of where St Paul went and where he established churches. (There are also maps of where Buddha and Mohammed went and when). I was wondering what people thought his teachings were based on if not some kind of reality, even if they thought it was distorted.

That’s funny that people interpreted my question as thirst or atheist.
I am Catholic, but, as a Catholic, I am open to doubt and other ideas. I actually thought several answers in this thread were really helpful.

Sorry…this book:

https://www.amazon.com/History-World-Map-DK/dp/1465475850/ref=asc_df_1465475850/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312114660688&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5297823334967907540&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9024572&hvtargid=pla-551265269969&psc=1

Regardless of one's opinion on the topic, that looks like a really great book. I'd love to get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“As an atheist, I’ve got no dog in this fight.”

Continues to fight, dogs be dammed.

DP here. Who says atheists have no interest in this "fight"?

It is religious people trying to take human rights away that make a fight necessary.

So pretending Jesus never existed and lying about his life on earth to deceive people helps you maintain “rights” how?

In America, we have freedom of religion, to practice as we choose, and you and others on this thread wish you could take that right away. People who want to abolish freedom of religion but worry about their “rights” and hypocritical.

I did not do that at all - in fact I did the opposite YOU LIAR.

I asked to see the evidence he was a god. Because I haven't seen any. And you, apparently, have none either.

Atheists openly admit on this thread that they are denying the historicity of Jesus Christ because they don’t like the issue of abortion being moved back to the states.

Atheists admitting they don’t like “the supernatural” and believe “the world would be a much better place without it.” (That’s the state mandated atheism communists love so much fyi)

An atheist angrily asking for evidence of “god,” despite being reminded many, many times in this forum that science doesn’t have the tools, capabilities, tests, instruments, etc, to prove or disprove God. Religious belief is personal and based on faith. You are asking the same question, getting the same correct answer. Do you think something has changed in the last few days since you asked and were answered?

The denial of the historical existence of Christ in this forum is based on atheists with agendas…out of step with scholarship and evidence and facts. Funny, as atheists pretend they adore “evidence.”

You are either confused or you’re lying. Nobody here denied he existed.

You mean other than the OP of this thread? Talk about gaslighting.

Ha that’s funny I read it exactly the opposite, that the OP was a theist. Genuinely thought that.

I’m the OP of this thread. I started it almost a year ago. Surprised to see it’s still going.
I was reading about the origins of world religions with my eighth grader, and we were looking at different maps of the ancient world in this book:

There is a pretty clear and specific map of where St Paul went and where he established churches. (There are also maps of where Buddha and Mohammed went and when). I was wondering what people thought his teachings were based on if not some kind of reality, even if they thought it was distorted.

That’s funny that people interpreted my question as thirst or atheist.
I am Catholic, but, as a Catholic, I am open to doubt and other ideas. I actually thought several answers in this thread were really helpful.

Sorry…this book:

https://www.amazon.com/History-World-Map-DK/dp/1465475850/ref=asc_df_1465475850/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312114660688&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5297823334967907540&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9024572&hvtargid=pla-551265269969&psc=1

Regardless of one's opinion on the topic, that looks like a really great book. I'd love to get it.

I put this in here just to show that it’s a secular book, but I want to say that you should get it if you like this sort of thing or if you have a child studying world history. It really is a great book. We just did units on Marco Polo and Zheng He, and it’s great to be able to trace their routes and incorporate geography into various timelines.