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Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that…“

Bet that it was the teachers who did not want to write recommendations each year..TJ just respected their opinions..

they already have enough BS to deal with, including being outed to Youngkin for teaching so called CRT

Youngkin proposed something about transgender, pronouns etc last week? But, I would have rather preferred an announcement that they were planning to fund additional STEM academies in Virginia.. oh well.

Bet? Is that your argument?

Youngkin is all talk and no action. I wouldn't expect much of anything other than stirring up culture war non-issues.

Youngkin talked a good game about TJ in order to soften his margins of defeat in Fairfax and Loudoun Counties, a strategy that largely worked. He still has an iron-clad state Senate to work against and a local school board that is impenetrable for at least another year. His move was to put the hack Suparna Dutta on the state Board of Education to serve as a mouthpiece for Asra Nomani and to show the South Asian community that he was somehow serious about TJ. Dutta doesn't have the chops to be in her position but she's a softer edge than Nomani and not nearly as toxic to the conversation.

In the end, you have to remember that Youngkin is not eligible for re-election in 2025 and that all of his energy right now is in positioning himself to be the VP pick for whoever is the GOP nominee in 2024. He wants to be President someday but he won't be ready for the big show in the next cycle. Virginia is the LAST of his concerns right now.

He may be crazy and toxic but he just doesn't have the right combo the GOP wants these days. MJT is more suitable VP candidate for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that…“

Bet that it was the teachers who did not want to write recommendations each year..TJ just respected their opinions..

they already have enough BS to deal with, including being outed to Youngkin for teaching so called CRT

Youngkin proposed something about transgender, pronouns etc last week? But, I would have rather preferred an announcement that they were planning to fund additional STEM academies in Virginia.. oh well.

Bet? Is that your argument?

Youngkin is all talk and no action. I wouldn't expect much of anything other than stirring up culture war non-issues.

Youngkin talked a good game about TJ in order to soften his margins of defeat in Fairfax and Loudoun Counties, a strategy that largely worked. He still has an iron-clad state Senate to work against and a local school board that is impenetrable for at least another year. His move was to put the hack Suparna Dutta on the state Board of Education to serve as a mouthpiece for Asra Nomani and to show the South Asian community that he was somehow serious about TJ. Dutta doesn't have the chops to be in her position but she's a softer edge than Nomani and not nearly as toxic to the conversation.

In the end, you have to remember that Youngkin is not eligible for re-election in 2025 and that all of his energy right now is in positioning himself to be the VP pick for whoever is the GOP nominee in 2024. He wants to be President someday but he won't be ready for the big show in the next cycle. Virginia is the LAST of his concerns right now.

He may be crazy and toxic but he just doesn't have the right combo the GOP wants these days. MJT is more suitable VP candidate for them.

I think it will depend entirely on how they do in the midterms. If it's a GOP landslide and if goons like Lake and Masters do well in Arizona, they will go full heel and double down on the insanity in 2024.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

Can confirm that no one at TJ cares about Blair AT ALL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

What better things? Can you give some examples

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

What better things? Can you give some examples

DP. Play sports. Hang out with friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

What better things? Can you give some examples

PP. There is no end to the amazing things that TJ students do that have absolutely nothing to do with academic competitions. They launched a satellite into space a decade ago and will do another one soon - just one example. Where is Blair's satellite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

Yes, Blair favors quality while TJ favors quantity which is why its the lesser product.

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Anonymous wrote: TJ has more highly qualified URMs (AA and Hispanic) now. Ironically, they also have many more white kids who aren't very strong STEM students.

I find the increased white enrollment sadly predictable, not ironic. The appearance is gaining an increase in their enrollment under the cloak of helping Hispanics and AA folks.

When you remove a system that demonstrably and obviously favors one ethnic group, it's a matter of simple statistics that all of the other groups will be restored at least to some level.

The new system does not confer any advantage to a specific racial group - it removes an advantage from a racial group and confers an advantage to a socioeconomic group. It's always worth remembering that the statistics indicated that the largest racial group that benefited from the new changes are Asians of low SES.

Claiming that the new system disadvantages Asian students is a bit like claiming that a school moving from a boys school to a co-ed school is somehow creating an admissions disadvantage for boys.

BINGO!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that…“

Bet that it was the teachers who did not want to write recommendations each year..TJ just respected their opinions..

they already have enough BS to deal with, including being outed to Youngkin for teaching so called CRT

Youngkin proposed something about transgender, pronouns etc last week? But, I would have rather preferred an announcement that they were planning to fund additional STEM academies in Virginia.. oh well.

Interesting because I’ve been reading in other threads that the best STEM schools other than TJ are the existing top neighborhood schools with lots of challenging math/science courses and that courses with STEM just stuck in their names often are poorly taught or nothing special. So just creating more “STEM academies” sounds more like PR than anything else.

Being able to take calculus in 9th or 10th grade and continuing this progression without having to go to a community college or take classes online, is not PR.

You don’t have to be a “STEM academy” to do this. You just need to offer challenging classes. And why push calculus on 9th graders unless they are truly ready?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone keeping track of NMSF numbers from TJ?

I believe it is 144 for the Class of 23.
We will have another class ('24) under the old system.

Then we will have the class of '25 - the first litmus test of the new admissions policy. It will be great to compare class of 25 with Oakton HS, McLean HS and Langley HS for that class. Currently those schools are in teens with NMSF qualifiers

Nobody cares about NMSF, it's neither noteworthy nor prestigious. Your 'comparison' is meaningless. TJ will always have 100+ NMSF qualifiers because the main criteria is based off of the laughably easy PSAT. It shouldn't be a big surprise that a third of the TJ population can do this without trying very hard.

1/3rd is actually quite low. it is almost 1/2 for the Blair STEM Magnet.

The Blair magnet is, if memory serves, a program for about 100 kids per class year that exists within a much larger regular high school. It is far more comparable to AOS or AET than it is to TJ as in most cases the only courses that are unique to the magnet student are the STEM courses.

TJ is the superior product as a full-service high school for over 500 students per class and that's not really up for debate. This is why Blair tends to have an inferiority complex with respect to TJ while the vast majority of TJ students do not know that the Blair magnet exists.

Well, except that Blair's magnet has a higher SAT average, more NMSF as a percent, members of the USAMO, and more Regeneron scholars as a %, and seems to beat TJ at almost every academic competition they compete in so seems like TJ Is an inferior product.

All of those percentages are exceptional because their program is so tiny. If you siphoned off the top 100 students at TJ in each class and compared them to the 100 students in each Blair magnet class it wouldn't even be a competition.

Additionally, students at TJ have some many other opportunities to participate in because it's a full-service high school. Many of the best students have far better things to do with their time than obsess over academic competitions.

Yes, Blair favors quality while TJ favors quantity which is why its the lesser product.

Blair only has 100 spots to offer because it is a magnet program that exists within the backdrop of a base school and Montgomery County hasn't built a dedicated building for their magnet program. The Takoma Park magnet middle school is the same way.

But go on, knock yourself out about a program in Maryland that no one cares about outside of "It's Academic" fanboys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that…“

Bet that it was the teachers who did not want to write recommendations each year..TJ just respected their opinions..

they already have enough BS to deal with, including being outed to Youngkin for teaching so called CRT

Youngkin proposed something about transgender, pronouns etc last week? But, I would have rather preferred an announcement that they were planning to fund additional STEM academies in Virginia.. oh well.

Interesting because I’ve been reading in other threads that the best STEM schools other than TJ are the existing top neighborhood schools with lots of challenging math/science courses and that courses with STEM just stuck in their names often are poorly taught or nothing special. So just creating more “STEM academies” sounds more like PR than anything else.

Being able to take calculus in 9th or 10th grade and continuing this progression without having to go to a community college or take classes online, is not PR.

You don’t have to be a “STEM academy” to do this. You just need to offer challenging classes. And why push calculus on 9th graders unless they are truly ready?

The number who are truly ready is generally so low that schools can't offer their own higher level classes. Having a larger group at TJ allows them to offer these classes.
The number of kids who are ready for this is higher than you think, particularly for calculus in 10th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that…“

Bet that it was the teachers who did not want to write recommendations each year..TJ just respected their opinions..

they already have enough BS to deal with, including being outed to Youngkin for teaching so called CRT

Youngkin proposed something about transgender, pronouns etc last week? But, I would have rather preferred an announcement that they were planning to fund additional STEM academies in Virginia.. oh well.

Interesting because I’ve been reading in other threads that the best STEM schools other than TJ are the existing top neighborhood schools with lots of challenging math/science courses and that courses with STEM just stuck in their names often are poorly taught or nothing special. So just creating more “STEM academies” sounds more like PR than anything else.

Being able to take calculus in 9th or 10th grade and continuing this progression without having to go to a community college or take classes online, is not PR.

You don’t have to be a “STEM academy” to do this. You just need to offer challenging classes. And why push calculus on 9th graders unless they are truly ready?

The number who are truly ready is generally so low that schools can't offer their own higher level classes. Having a larger group at TJ allows them to offer these classes.
The number of kids who are ready for this is higher than you think, particularly for calculus in 10th grade.

After 126 pages this is the #1 point.

1. TJ should only be for kids who are truly advanced in math not all this woke bs with folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th and somehow getting in.
2. Most of the top tier AAP feeder high schools have a big enough cohort to have entire classes advanced at this level so TJ isn't needed.
3. TJ should just be shut down at this point it's redundant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“And they took away teacher recommendations. If they cared about taking high achieving students they would not have done that…“

Bet that it was the teachers who did not want to write recommendations each year..TJ just respected their opinions..

they already have enough BS to deal with, including being outed to Youngkin for teaching so called CRT

Youngkin proposed something about transgender, pronouns etc last week? But, I would have rather preferred an announcement that they were planning to fund additional STEM academies in Virginia.. oh well.

Interesting because I’ve been reading in other threads that the best STEM schools other than TJ are the existing top neighborhood schools with lots of challenging math/science courses and that courses with STEM just stuck in their names often are poorly taught or nothing special. So just creating more “STEM academies” sounds more like PR than anything else.

Being able to take calculus in 9th or 10th grade and continuing this progression without having to go to a community college or take classes online, is not PR.

You don’t have to be a “STEM academy” to do this. You just need to offer challenging classes. And why push calculus on 9th graders unless they are truly ready?

The number who are truly ready is generally so low that schools can't offer their own higher level classes. Having a larger group at TJ allows them to offer these classes.
The number of kids who are ready for this is higher than you think, particularly for calculus in 10th grade.

After 126 pages this is the #1 point.

1. TJ should only be for kids who are truly advanced in math not all this woke bs with folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th and somehow getting in.
2. Most of the top tier AAP feeder high schools have a big enough cohort to have entire classes advanced at this level so TJ isn't needed.
3. TJ should just be shut down at this point it's redundant.

TJ is used by economic development folks to bring companies in and used by companies to attract talent to the area. Diluting TJ or closing it only reduces overall tax revenues. But then again, logic has long left the house. Shut it down!