Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

For some of us her manipulation and dishonesty in every area of her life is unsettling, but totally agreeing the exploitation of her followers is by far the worst. Particularly the prices she’s asking for her “me” courses marketed to help her followers have a better life while most of her life is image crafted solely to hook more people. Round and round it goes.

[Anonymous]

Playing devil’s advocate here. There are lots of “influencers” on tic tock promoting various things. My kids fall for it all the time and it’s a constant discussion. These are the new “tv commercials” for the younger generation. How is what Jen is doing now (trying to sell clothing, etc) all that different? Aren’t a lot of advertisements preying on peoples insecurities?

[Anonymous]

It's all part of exploitative Late Capitalism. TV commercials included. Instagram Influencer culture included.
It all feeds a shallow, hyper consumerist culture, the selling a fake lifestyle brands, etc., doubly especially when your own "brand" at one time was fighting "excess" and living a more simple and uncluttered life. Remember 7?

Jen's real life is a shit show. We all know this. But she's an expert at only showing the world the image she wants to show. Which is a heroic girl boss who just only wins. Hundreds of thousands of women buy it. Jen holds her life up to them as aspirational and because of this feeds on them via constant shilling and weaponized promo code nonsense. It's parasitic and exploitive to the core.

[Anonymous]

I need to own up, the thing that upsets me the very most is she used to promote the gospel of the Bible now it’s the gospel according to Jen. She’s raised herself up as a messianic deconstructed post Christian hero. Yet she’s really just a confused, hurting narcissist who sold her soul and her family for fame, wealth and influence. The repackaging and delivery of that sell out is repugnant yet she seems to be pulling in countless susceptible acolytes to her cult of woke instagram intoxication.
I want to grab them by the shoulders and scream wake up, don’t drink her koolaid, it’s poison that’ll rot your soul and steal your money. They love her and don’t realize she’s playing them like fools. She snuck in through the guise of women’s ministry and led many into her brand of “freedom.” Freedom isn’t having to nip and tick to compete with younger women, pretending a gay guy is your true love, selling x,y, z to your devotees to support your lifestyle, or pretending your family is perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I need to own up, the thing that upsets me the very most is she used to promote the gospel of the Bible now it’s the gospel according to Jen. She’s raised herself up as a messianic deconstructed post Christian hero. Yet she’s really just a confused, hurting narcissist who sold her soul and her family for fame, wealth and influence. The repackaging and delivery of that sell out is repugnant yet she seems to be pulling in countless susceptible acolytes to her cult of woke instagram intoxication.
I want to grab them by the shoulders and scream wake up, don’t drink her koolaid, it’s poison that’ll rot your soul and steal your money. They love her and don’t realize she’s playing them like fools. She snuck in through the guise of women’s ministry and led many into her brand of “freedom.” Freedom isn’t having to nip and tick to compete with younger women, pretending a gay guy is your true love, selling x,y, z to your devotees to support your lifestyle, or pretending your family is perfect.

THIS. IS. IT. 👆🏻 (Well done, Commenter!)

[Anonymous]

I think Jen was never really about evangelizing a Christian Gospel though. It was just what she knew growing up and what was right in front of her. She saw and opportunity and seized it. Once she outgrew that she pivoted to what she thought would be wider, more secular opportunities. She basically destroyed her old audience in the hopes of finding a bigger, newer one. It really didn't work out to well, though, as she's not nearly as successful anymore with her books, speaking tours, no TV show, all of it. The secular woke audience is fickle and moves on to newer, brighter things. Her old conservative and Christian audience was more loyal and steadfast. She's now just reaping what she sowed several years ago.

[Anonymous]

I was just crying earlier because a woman who sold her soul in my old evangelical background by turning the other way when abuse was happening is doing extremely well according to social media. No one really knows the true story that she had opportunities opened for her because she looked the other way and did what the men told her to do. But years later she keeps advancing and having people fawn over her and is wildly successful and her social media feed is curated to make her life look perfect.

Meanwhile I spoke up against the abuse and they pushed me out and I lost all my work and opportunities. Years later I’m still struggling and what’s left of my life keeps falling apart and I feel so much shame. I saw something on social media with her perfect life again that just hurt so deeply and made me feel like garbage and forgotten all over again.

So the Jens of this world know how to move ahead while behind the scenes who knows what is happening. But there’s a lot of darkness and pain and collateral damage going on in these ministry and people worlds - no matter if one shifts or moves around to gain better advantages. It’s not an honest world and it takes a lot of narcissism and posturing and calculating to sustain yourself and keep everything going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I need to own up, the thing that upsets me the very most is she used to promote the gospel of the Bible now it’s the gospel according to Jen. She’s raised herself up as a messianic deconstructed post Christian hero. Yet she’s really just a confused, hurting narcissist who sold her soul and her family for fame, wealth and influence. The repackaging and delivery of that sell out is repugnant yet she seems to be pulling in countless susceptible acolytes to her cult of woke instagram intoxication.
I want to grab them by the shoulders and scream wake up, don’t drink her koolaid, it’s poison that’ll rot your soul and steal your money. They love her and don’t realize she’s playing them like fools. She snuck in through the guise of women’s ministry and led many into her brand of “freedom.” Freedom isn’t having to nip and tick to compete with younger women, pretending a gay guy is your true love, selling x,y, z to your devotees to support your lifestyle, or pretending your family is perfect.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Jen was never really about evangelizing a Christian Gospel though. It was just what she knew growing up and what was right in front of her. She saw and opportunity and seized it. Once she outgrew that she pivoted to what she thought would be wider, more secular opportunities. She basically destroyed her old audience in the hopes of finding a bigger, newer one. It really didn't work out to well, though, as she's not nearly as successful anymore with her books, speaking tours, no TV show, all of it. The secular woke audience is fickle and moves on to newer, brighter things. Her old conservative and Christian audience was more loyal and steadfast. She's now just reaping what she sowed several years ago.

YESSSS! I’ve thought this for years now! She chased fame in the bubble she knew at the time (evangelical world) but at some point, being famous in the Christian world wasn’t enough anymore. She wanted mainstream FAME. So she went looking for ways to grab a wider (secular) audience - “edgy” social media posts and public stances on issues that she knew would push buttons. And for about 5 minutes she almost had what she wanted, but things quickly began to spiral downhill. And now she’s completely alienated her original fan base, and the rest of her world couldn’t give a crap what she says. The grass is never greener.

[Anonymous]

She got high on her own supply. Pride goeth…

The above poster about what true freedom hit the nail on the head.

True freedom isn’t desperation trying to look like someone you’re not. True freedom isn’t feeling the constant need to sell crap to your “tribe”. True freedom isn’t trying to grasp the last frayed ends of fame. True freedom isn’t presenting a false face to the world. True freedom isn’t falling into a weird, miss-match of a romance because just being alone is too unbearable.

True freedom is sort of the opposite of that.

[Anonymous]

Jen’s a tacky vulture. She sees money; she swoops down.

And also… that hair color is atrocious on her skin tone. If you’re going to be that blonde, don’t have a face like a cherry tomato.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing devil’s advocate here. There are lots of “influencers” on tic tock promoting various things. My kids fall for it all the time and it’s a constant discussion. These are the new “tv commercials” for the younger generation. How is what Jen is doing now (trying to sell clothing, etc) all that different? Aren’t a lot of advertisements preying on peoples insecurities?

i just told my daughter about an hour ago that she and her friends are all brainwashed to spend too much on everything and buy expensive things that they don't need. i try to encourage her to stay away from all that, but it doesn't work very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing devil’s advocate here. There are lots of “influencers” on tic tock promoting various things. My kids fall for it all the time and it’s a constant discussion. These are the new “tv commercials” for the younger generation. How is what Jen is doing now (trying to sell clothing, etc) all that different? Aren’t a lot of advertisements preying on peoples insecurities?

I don’t follow a lot of influencers on social media, but of the ones I do - their ads make sense for their brand. The hippy holistic Mama posts ads for all natural granola bars. The full time RV Mama posts ads for camping gear. Etc, etc. Jen, it seems, will sell anything. She just wrote a cookbook, then made an ad for Hello Fresh. ??? She’ll rant about body positivity, then have Noom ads on her podcast. She tells us she just CANNOT parent a child, then ask us to pay $300 to watch a video detailing for us - how to parent a child. And, going way back, she’ll tell us we don’t need “stuff” to be happy, we need to be “Simple and free!”, then she tries to sell us Fab Fit Fun boxes? So….. a box of “stuff” we didn’t even pick, EVERY month?!?! It’s so beyond hypocritical, it laughable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I need to own up, the thing that upsets me the very most is she used to promote the gospel of the Bible now it’s the gospel according to Jen. She’s raised herself up as a messianic deconstructed post Christian hero. Yet she’s really just a confused, hurting narcissist who sold her soul and her family for fame, wealth and influence. The repackaging and delivery of that sell out is repugnant yet she seems to be pulling in countless susceptible acolytes to her cult of woke instagram intoxication.
I want to grab them by the shoulders and scream wake up, don’t drink her koolaid, it’s poison that’ll rot your soul and steal your money. They love her and don’t realize she’s playing them like fools. She snuck in through the guise of women’s ministry and led many into her brand of “freedom.” Freedom isn’t having to nip and tick to compete with younger women, pretending a gay guy is your true love, selling x,y, z to your devotees to support your lifestyle, or pretending your family is perfect.

*applause* this is spot on. 👏

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jen, "Everyone who is important and loves Ben is coming over for his grad party."

Brandon, "We all deserve a vacation, check out Texas Barbie in a bikini."

OH MY WORD is it me or is Brandon's post about being grateful he can take a vacation a direct shot at Jen and all of her "me camp" posts? These two are ridiculous. I am cringing for their kids.

Yes absolutely. Maybe Brandon is feeling the financial pinch from maintaining a real job, child support, and not having Jen's publicity money into a joint pot.

I wonder who scheduled first - Brandon schedules vacation, Jen plans the party while he's out of town. Or Jen planned the party, didn't invite Brandon, so he planned to be away. I also wonder if his sister and parents were invited. Jen LOOOOOVED them too.

I'll bet it is the latter