King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do they hate attendance islands more than they hate hordes of angry parents? Only time will tell. Stay tuned.

You don't think McNair families count?

Sure they do, but they are already at Westfield, their choice. They aren't losing anything.

They are losing adjacent communities with kids at Westfield. If you have high school students, you would know that matters very much.

It would be one elementary school community more than 7 miles from the nearest community that goes to the same high school. Do you not have any compassion for the kids? Get real.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction! Put me down for 5 bucks on this outcome:

They will need the Coates kids to keep KAA from being too well-off. Floris will go to KAA. McNair will stay at Westfield and Westfield will just end up with 2300 or so kids instead of 27-2800. BRES will stay at CVHS to avoid overburdening Stone/Westfield with all the needy kids. No one gets threatening calls from Kathy Smith about Poplar Tree.

This keeps the fewest people from being unhappy and no one gets "downgraded".

The more people you move, the more drama. FCPS is conflict-avoidant.

That creates a new McNair island at Westfield. If they are going to create a new attendance island they need to throw out the entire boundary study.

Well, its not new because they were already zoned there. I think trying to build a demographically acceptable HS will likely result in some attendance islands. I don't think the SB's number 1 priority is logical boundaries. Its on the list, more around tenth priority.

Thru Consulting’s top priority was to eliminate attendance islands and it’s also in Policy 8130. Would be extremely odd for FCPS to create a new one at McNair separated from the rest of the Westfield attendance area.

they are in a pickle, then, because NOT creating an attendance island at McNair opens up a whole lot of other thorny issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My prediction! Put me down for 5 bucks on this outcome:

They will need the Coates kids to keep KAA from being too well-off. Floris will go to KAA. McNair will stay at Westfield and Westfield will just end up with 2300 or so kids instead of 27-2800. BRES will stay at CVHS to avoid overburdening Stone/Westfield with all the needy kids. No one gets threatening calls from Kathy Smith about Poplar Tree.

This keeps the fewest people from being unhappy and no one gets "downgraded".

The more people you move, the more drama. FCPS is conflict-avoidant.

That creates a new McNair island at Westfield. If they are going to create a new attendance island they need to throw out the entire boundary study.

Well, its not new because they were already zoned there. I think trying to build a demographically acceptable HS will likely result in some attendance islands. I don't think the SB's number 1 priority is logical boundaries. Its on the list, more around tenth priority.

Thru Consulting’s top priority was to eliminate attendance islands and it’s also in Policy 8130. Would be extremely odd for FCPS to create a new one at McNair separated from the rest of the Westfield attendance area.

they are in a pickle, then, because NOT creating an attendance island at McNair opens up a whole lot of other thorny issues.

What is the thorny issue? It makes sense to have adjacent communities go to the same school. You just don't like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest attendance islands are related to the Fairfax city schools.

Did THRU solve those?

Yes. They proposed to bridge the Fairfax/Johnson island by swapping some Fairfax and Woodson areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do they hate attendance islands more than they hate hordes of angry parents? Only time will tell. Stay tuned.

You don't think McNair families count?

Sure they do, but they are already at Westfield, their choice. They aren't losing anything.

They are losing adjacent communities with kids at Westfield. If you have high school students, you would know that matters very much.

It would be one elementary school community more than 7 miles from the nearest community that goes to the same high school. Do you not have any compassion for the kids? Get real.

I don't see the drama, sorry. Over 150 kids from McNair per grade all going to the same HS together, the HS they have been zoned to for many years and the HS their parents chose when they moved to their neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

KAA solves:

Large attendance island at Westfield
Overcrowding at Chantilly
Possibly saving Crossfield kids from a long bus ride
Frees up space to move kids out of overcrowded Centreville
Possibility of eliminating long bus ride of students to Fairfax if they can fit into Centreville. (Is that also a Fairfax High island?)

No pickle here. Lots of solutions and improvements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My prediction! Put me down for 5 bucks on this outcome:

They will need the Coates kids to keep KAA from being too well-off. Floris will go to KAA. McNair will stay at Westfield and Westfield will just end up with 2300 or so kids instead of 27-2800. BRES will stay at CVHS to avoid overburdening Stone/Westfield with all the needy kids. No one gets threatening calls from Kathy Smith about Poplar Tree.

This keeps the fewest people from being unhappy and no one gets "downgraded".

The more people you move, the more drama. FCPS is conflict-avoidant.

That creates a new McNair island at Westfield. If they are going to create a new attendance island they need to throw out the entire boundary study.

Well, its not new because they were already zoned there. I think trying to build a demographically acceptable HS will likely result in some attendance islands. I don't think the SB's number 1 priority is logical boundaries. Its on the list, more around tenth priority.

Thru Consulting’s top priority was to eliminate attendance islands and it’s also in Policy 8130. Would be extremely odd for FCPS to create a new one at McNair separated from the rest of the Westfield attendance area.

they are in a pickle, then, because NOT creating an attendance island at McNair opens up a whole lot of other thorny issues.

What is the thorny issue? It makes sense to have adjacent communities go to the same school. You just don't like that.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do they hate attendance islands more than they hate hordes of angry parents? Only time will tell. Stay tuned.

You don't think McNair families count?

Sure they do, but they are already at Westfield, their choice. They aren't losing anything.

They are losing adjacent communities with kids at Westfield. If you have high school students, you would know that matters very much.

It would be one elementary school community more than 7 miles from the nearest community that goes to the same high school. Do you not have any compassion for the kids? Get real.

I don't see the drama, sorry. Over 150 kids from McNair per grade all going to the same HS together, the HS they have been zoned to for many years and the HS their parents chose when they moved to their neighborhood.

You don't want your teens to expand their horizons and make new friends? Wow. That is very sad.

[Anonymous]

Where would you have the McNair island fan have the kids go to middle school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:KAA solves:

Large attendance island at Westfield
Overcrowding at Chantilly
Possibly saving Crossfield kids from a long bus ride
Frees up space to move kids out of overcrowded Centreville
Possibility of eliminating long bus ride of students to Fairfax if they can fit into Centreville. (Is that also a Fairfax High island?)

No pickle here. Lots of solutions and improvements.

KAA is great, one of the only smart things FCPS has done in awhile.

But denying that they are in a difficult position with redrawing the western HS boundaries just makes you sound foolish. Look at this thread. No one wants their
kids to switch high schools, unless they are getting zoned to KAA. People are excited for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do they hate attendance islands more than they hate hordes of angry parents? Only time will tell. Stay tuned.

You don't think McNair families count?

Sure they do, but they are already at Westfield, their choice. They aren't losing anything.

They are losing adjacent communities with kids at Westfield. If you have high school students, you would know that matters very much.

It would be one elementary school community more than 7 miles from the nearest community that goes to the same high school. Do you not have any compassion for the kids? Get real.

I don't see the drama, sorry. Over 150 kids from McNair per grade all going to the same HS together, the HS they have been zoned to for many years and the HS their parents chose when they moved to their neighborhood.

Unfortunately for you this does not align with Policy 8130, which the School Board just revised last year to specifically target attendance islands. And you’d have even more upset McNair families now being surrounded by KAA families and isolated at Westfield than you’d have Westfield families upset about too many FARMS kids from Bull Run.

[Anonymous]

Westfield doesn't have an attendance island right now BTW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do they hate attendance islands more than they hate hordes of angry parents? Only time will tell. Stay tuned.

You don't think McNair families count?

Sure they do, but they are already at Westfield, their choice. They aren't losing anything.

They are losing adjacent communities with kids at Westfield. If you have high school students, you would know that matters very much.

It would be one elementary school community more than 7 miles from the nearest community that goes to the same high school. Do you not have any compassion for the kids? Get real.

I don't see the drama, sorry. Over 150 kids from McNair per grade all going to the same HS together, the HS they have been zoned to for many years and the HS their parents chose when they moved to their neighborhood.

Unfortunately for you this does not align with Policy 8130, which the School Board just revised last year to specifically target attendance islands. And you’d have even more upset McNair families now being surrounded by KAA families and isolated at Westfield than you’d have Westfield families upset about too many FARMS kids from Bull Run.

I guess we'll have to see how conflict adverse the SB is. Individual members were already caving at meetings on Thru proposals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My prediction! Put me down for 5 bucks on this outcome:

They will need the Coates kids to keep KAA from being too well-off. Floris will go to KAA. McNair will stay at Westfield and Westfield will just end up with 2300 or so kids instead of 27-2800. BRES will stay at CVHS to avoid overburdening Stone/Westfield with all the needy kids. No one gets threatening calls from Kathy Smith about Poplar Tree.

This keeps the fewest people from being unhappy and no one gets "downgraded".

The more people you move, the more drama. FCPS is conflict-avoidant.

That creates a new McNair island at Westfield. If they are going to create a new attendance island they need to throw out the entire boundary study.

Well, its not new because they were already zoned there. I think trying to build a demographically acceptable HS will likely result in some attendance islands. I don't think the SB's number 1 priority is logical boundaries. Its on the list, more around tenth priority.

Thru Consulting’s top priority was to eliminate attendance islands and it’s also in Policy 8130. Would be extremely odd for FCPS to create a new one at McNair separated from the rest of the Westfield attendance area.

they are in a pickle, then, because NOT creating an attendance island at McNair opens up a whole lot of other thorny issues.

What is the thorny issue? It makes sense to have adjacent communities go to the same school. You just don't like that.

Bingo.

Oh, interesting. So you agree that Poplar Tree should move to Westfield? Its adjacent to Cub Run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do they hate attendance islands more than they hate hordes of angry parents? Only time will tell. Stay tuned.

You don't think McNair families count?

Sure they do, but they are already at Westfield, their choice. They aren't losing anything.

They are losing adjacent communities with kids at Westfield. If you have high school students, you would know that matters very much.

It would be one elementary school community more than 7 miles from the nearest community that goes to the same high school. Do you not have any compassion for the kids? Get real.

I don't see the drama, sorry. Over 150 kids from McNair per grade all going to the same HS together, the HS they have been zoned to for many years and the HS their parents chose when they moved to their neighborhood.

You don't want your teens to expand their horizons and make new friends? Wow. That is very sad.

This comment...makes no sense.