FCPS HS Boundary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t we just wait until there is an official proposal? All this bickering back and forth about what might or might not happen is futile.

Except if you just wait until the proposal then it is too late. That’s what the school board wants you to do.

and how does all the speculating here change things?

Well, for one it informs any reader what is possibly going to happen, which may spur some outrage/action/outreach.

DCUM is also probably seen by members of the board and or staff, so it’s good to let them know that we are paying attention and are dead set against redistricting. Right Kyle? Right Robin? Right Karl?

If you don’t like the thread there it’s of course the option to just tune out. The suggestion of just waiting really only serves the interest of the SB and their few supporters.

Correct. The boundary survey that the SB conducted showed that residents by and large did not want widescale boundary changes and that they should only be used as a last resort after other steps have been tried to address capacity issues (and not for socioeconomic reengineering). Your SB rep is supposed to represent the interests of their constituents. If you could be negatively impacted my whatever misguided proposal they might come up with the time to reach out is now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bringing a discussion from another thread over here because it is more relevant here.

As a bus drove by, I just checked travel times for Langley vs. Herndon. At least for folks north of route 7, there is really no difference between bus times.

Herndon High - 15 minutes from us, Langley High 17 minutes. Net difference, a de minimus 2 minutes. I encourage you to confirm yourselves.

Turns out buses as a pretext in this neck of the woods isn’t compelling.

I don’t know why Langley and Herndon are always brought up. Langley is now overcrowded. GF feeds into Langley. Other people are often trying to move GF families to Herndon. It is one thing if Langley was overcrowded but Langley isn’t overcrowded.

We are zoned for Langley and have watched for years while they make tiny boundary changes to Langley.

[Anonymous]

*Langley is not overcrowded, not now overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bringing a discussion from another thread over here because it is more relevant here.

As a bus drove by, I just checked travel times for Langley vs. Herndon. At least for folks north of route 7, there is really no difference between bus times.

Herndon High - 15 minutes from us, Langley High 17 minutes. Net difference, a de minimus 2 minutes. I encourage you to confirm yourselves.

Turns out buses as a pretext in this neck of the woods isn’t compelling.

It probably isn’t’ compelling anywhere. They are doing this because they want test score averages at the schools to even out. The irony is that they yell at, micromanage, and override teachers every day to make sure achievement gaps are closing, but when it comes to their turn to face the music, they just try to shuffle kids around to hide the fact that some students and schools aren’t given supports. Why doesn’t the board advocate for new metrics to judge schools by student growth? Or by showing how many kids enter career programs OR college after high school? (Colleges are required to show this)?
Why is the boards solution to cover up when they ride teachers and administrators everyday to show progress?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone describe what putting 200 WSHS kids does for Lewis?

Especially since more than 200 Lewis kids pupil place to orher high schools.

Start there.

I think they should start by finding out WHY 200 kids transfer out. Obviously, there is something very wrong at that school. I can't blame families for going elsewhere.
DP

AAP. a small group of kids in Saratoga AAP can choose LB because of the center there since Key isn’t a center.

Also why not blame families? What do you know personally about the school that you think people should be afraid of? Hispanics? Poor families? Small class sizes? Non competitive sports? Great teachers and a great principal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bringing a discussion from another thread over here because it is more relevant here.

As a bus drove by, I just checked travel times for Langley vs. Herndon. At least for folks north of route 7, there is really no difference between bus times.

Herndon High - 15 minutes from us, Langley High 17 minutes. Net difference, a de minimus 2 minutes. I encourage you to confirm yourselves.

Turns out buses as a pretext in this neck of the woods isn’t compelling.

I don’t know why Langley and Herndon are always brought up. Langley is now overcrowded. GF feeds into Langley. Other people are often trying to move GF families to Herndon. It is one thing if Langley was overcrowded but Langley isn’t overcrowded.

We are zoned for Langley and have watched for years while they make tiny boundary changes to Langley.

Yep. If we are being practical with resources, it makes more sense to relieve Chantilly by shifting them to westfields and the westfields Herndon neoghborhoods to HHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*Langley is not overcrowded, not now overcrowded.

I think the Western Great Falls families are on high alert about this but I think they’re probably safe at Langley. As you said, LHS is under enrolled and could actually probably do with more students at this point. And it wouldn’t make sense to bus Herndon students there because that’s a haul, so any additional students would come from areas currently zoned for McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bringing a discussion from another thread over here because it is more relevant here.

As a bus drove by, I just checked travel times for Langley vs. Herndon. At least for folks north of route 7, there is really no difference between bus times.

Herndon High - 15 minutes from us, Langley High 17 minutes. Net difference, a de minimus 2 minutes. I encourage you to confirm yourselves.

Turns out buses as a pretext in this neck of the woods isn’t compelling.

I don’t know why Langley and Herndon are always brought up. Langley is now overcrowded. GF feeds into Langley. Other people are often trying to move GF families to Herndon. It is one thing if Langley was overcrowded but Langley isn’t overcrowded.

We are zoned for Langley and have watched for years while they make tiny boundary changes to Langley.

Yep. If we are being practical with resources, it makes more sense to relieve Chantilly by shifting them to westfields and the westfields Herndon neoghborhoods to HHS.

+1. That is the play if they truly care about overcrowding. That is also why this is going to be a S-show. So many parts of the county might be cascaded like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bringing a discussion from another thread over here because it is more relevant here.

As a bus drove by, I just checked travel times for Langley vs. Herndon. At least for folks north of route 7, there is really no difference between bus times.

Herndon High - 15 minutes from us, Langley High 17 minutes. Net difference, a de minimus 2 minutes. I encourage you to confirm yourselves.

Turns out buses as a pretext in this neck of the woods isn’t compelling.

I don’t know why Langley and Herndon are always brought up. Langley is now overcrowded. GF feeds into Langley. Other people are often trying to move GF families to Herndon. It is one thing if Langley was overcrowded but Langley isn’t overcrowded.

We are zoned for Langley and have watched for years while they make tiny boundary changes to Langley.

The afternoon and evening commute times are longer to Langley from some parts of GF. The reason Langley is brought up is because McLean is overcrowded so some kids could get shifted to Langley which could mean some LHS kids who are closer to Herndon should get shifted there.

[Anonymous]

Here's the change.org for those opposing changing the WSHS boundary:

https://chng.it/56yWH8hGLv

[Anonymous]

Perhaps the best course of action to avoid changing boundaries is to close Lewis and send Crestwood, Lynbrook, and Garfield to WS, Saratoga to SC, etc. FCPS and parents have shown they prefer and even thrive when schools are close to the 3000-student mark. Lewis is so small that the redistribution would be hardly felt across WS, Edison, Hayfield, SC, and Annandale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:*Langley is not overcrowded, not now overcrowded.

I think the Western Great Falls families are on high alert about this but I think they’re probably safe at Langley. As you said, LHS is under enrolled and could actually probably do with more students at this point. And it wouldn’t make sense to bus Herndon students there because that’s a haul, so any additional students would come from areas currently zoned for McLean.

What are you talking about? FCPS sends all of Forestville ES to Langley. FCPS does not assign schools based on zip codes and postal addresses. Forestville students with Herndon and Reston addresses are currently bussed to Langley. FCPS did assign the new Summerhouse Landing [site of Woody's Golf] off route 7 to Herndon pyramid schools. That came up during the Mclean to Langley boundary change. https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/mclean-high-school-boundary-adjustment

Used to be that FCPS couldn't find Armstrong, Adrin, and Forest Edge on a map - treated as if were in another school division.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the change.org for those opposing changing the WSHS boundary:

https://chng.it/56yWH8hGLv

This is just related to West Springfield elementary. Keene Mill is closer. It would make more sense to look there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bringing a discussion from another thread over here because it is more relevant here.

As a bus drove by, I just checked travel times for Langley vs. Herndon. At least for folks north of route 7, there is really no difference between bus times.

Herndon High - 15 minutes from us, Langley High 17 minutes. Net difference, a de minimus 2 minutes. I encourage you to confirm yourselves.

Turns out buses as a pretext in this neck of the woods isn’t compelling.

I don’t know why Langley and Herndon are always brought up. Langley is now overcrowded. GF feeds into Langley. Other people are often trying to move GF families to Herndon. It is one thing if Langley was overcrowded but Langley isn’t overcrowded.

We are zoned for Langley and have watched for years while they make tiny boundary changes to Langley.

The afternoon and evening commute times are longer to Langley from some parts of GF. The reason Langley is brought up is because McLean is overcrowded so some kids could get shifted to Langley which could mean some LHS kids who are closer to Herndon should get shifted there.

In my experience there are always some McLean families near Langley who’d like to be rezoned to the wealthier, renovated school. Most would prefer to stay put and have pointed out that, with the modular addition, McLean isn’t overcrowded to the degree that FCPS has said in the past warrants redistricting.

However, Herndon has been expanded to almost 2800 seats, they are now projecting it will only have slightly over 1900 kids in five years, and you have members like Lady (who lives in Herndon) and McDaniel who seem to be promoting boundary changes. It’s not crazy to think they may propose to move more of McLean to Langley and then move part of Langley to Herndon.

If you don’t want further boundary changes in Dranesville, let Robyn Lady and the at-large members know. They are floundering right now because they are starting to realize they will ultimately be accountable for any future boundary changes, regardless of what they say about just relying on staff recommendations.

[Anonymous]

The modular at MHS doesn’t relieve the overcrowding in common spaces like the auditorium, cafeteria…

I don’t think MHS families want to be moved to LHS but it might be necessary, especially since the tj admissions changes has led to more Longfellow kids going to MHS.