Another gunman, another elementary school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Democrats do not want resource officers at school. Schools need better protection. There should be a be partisan fox on this. No gun sales before age 25 when your frontal lobe has been fully developed. Prior to then special license for hunting and parent is responsible for rifle. There are some fixes.

This is completely untrue! President Obama pushed through as much school security as possible in an EO and all Democrats support it.

Please name ONE school security legislation the Tepublicans have even suggested in either house.

Feds dont dictate whether elementary schools here, like in FCPS, have resource officers.

After the Parkland shooting, the suggestion of having resource officers at elementary schools here was met with total disgust as being a right wing thing. Go back and review old threads here. A resource officer shouldn't be partisan. But it is.

It shouldn’t be either police safety officers at schools or gun control. We need both.

Exactly! It's not a zero sum game. Not multiple choice, only pick 1 answer.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

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I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again[/quote]

Give me a break. There'll be another mass shooting in a few weeks, maybe a couple months. This is America. #RepublicansUnitedForMoreMassShootings

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know why a teacher propped the outer door open and left it that way. Sadly, the teachers who died had not locked their classroom doors in keeping with security protocol. And why was the school resource officer not on the campus when the shooter arrived?

Had those three things been different, the loss of life would likely have been significantly lower.

The commander who kept his cops waiting in the hall is not the only person who made lethal mistakes.

If a mentally ill teenager couldn’t get his hands on an AR15 and ammunition, the carnage would have been nonexistent.

Then he could get a glock or other gun instead and shoot kids with that. Banning AR 15s is certainly worth discussing, but it will not by itself stop school shootings.

And? What's your point?

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know why a teacher propped the outer door open and left it that way. Sadly, the teachers who died had not locked their classroom doors in keeping with security protocol. And why was the school resource officer not on the campus when the shooter arrived?

Had those three things been different, the loss of life would likely have been significantly lower.

The commander who kept his cops waiting in the hall is not the only person who made lethal mistakes.

If a mentally ill teenager couldn’t get his hands on an AR15 and ammunition, the carnage would have been nonexistent.

Then he could get a glock or other gun instead and shoot kids with that. Banning AR 15s is certainly worth discussing, but it will not by itself stop school shootings.

DP
Why do you think school shooters consistently choose guns like the AR15, instead of Glocks?

Is this your logic?

AR 15s shoot more bullets and shoot faster than handguns.

Therefore, without AR 15s . . . there would be no more school shootings?

With minimal practice a semiauto Glock 9 magazine with 24 rounds can be emptied in under four seconds. A new magazine can be clipped in a few seconds. There’s more recoil than a semiauto rifle, and less accurate over a long distance, but it’s just as deadly. And much cheaper.

Getting shot with a Glock can obviously be deadly, but "as deadly" is wrong. An AR-15 fires a round with a great deal more energy, with less recoil, and greater accuracy. In a shooting that matters a great deal. You can kill someone with a Brown Bess, but it would be crazy to call it "just as deadly" as a modern gun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know why a teacher propped the outer door open and left it that way. Sadly, the teachers who died had not locked their classroom doors in keeping with security protocol. And why was the school resource officer not on the campus when the shooter arrived?

Had those three things been different, the loss of life would likely have been significantly lower.

The commander who kept his cops waiting in the hall is not the only person who made lethal mistakes.

If a mentally ill teenager couldn’t get his hands on an AR15 and ammunition, the carnage would have been nonexistent.

Then he could get a glock or other gun instead and shoot kids with that. Banning AR 15s is certainly worth discussing, but it will not by itself stop school shootings.

Don't you care about DECREASING loss of life?

This is what so many people seem to be ignoring. Yes, tragedy might still happen. But why not reduce the chances for loss of life?! Ar15 vs Glock. Not as many will die. It's a step in the right direction. Then you make hand guns a hell of a lot harder to get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Americans have common ground. But Republicans in office repeatedly refuse to enact legislation that respects the will of the clear majority of Americans. Republican officials. So, if you vote Republican officials into office, and you sincerely want sensible gun laws in place, then you have to stop putting Republicans in office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

I think I’ve been missing some news reports you have been watching. Everyone always agrees this should never happen again. That’s not the problem. The problem is how you go about stopping it. All I’ve been seeing is the gun nuts saying more defensive measures and armed guards are needed at ‘soft targets’ (aka - every single public space in the entire country).

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.

Then use police officers.

You clearly didn’t see what happened in Uvalde.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.

Then use police officers.

Police weren't much help in this case, were they?

One of my good friends is a police officer. He says it's divided: half of the officers say they would wait around as they did in Texas to form a plan and wait for additional backup. The other half say no, you swore an oath, you go in there even if you are going to die because at least it gives the people you are sworn to protect a chance.

I'm not willing to take that 50/50 gamble with my children's lives. Are you?

This is illogical.

You actually are saying, like in an active shooter situation, YOU DONT WANT POLICE???? YOU WOULDNT CALL FREAKING 9-1-1????? Who would you call - Ghostbusters? Social worker?

Please, walk me through who will respond to an active shooter situation in your world. Who would be the person to handle it? Or would you suggest everybody just pray and do nothing while a shooter mows down kids

Call them why? So they can stand outside for 45-60 mins and taser parents who tried to do their job for them?

[Anonymous]

88% of Americans support background checks and 67% support an assault weapons ban. If we had a direct democracy, we would already have both. Instead we are held hostage to corrupt Republican politicians beholden to the gun lobby.

The answer to all of your questions is money.

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https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3502285-88-percent-in-new-poll-support-background-checks-on-all-gun-sales/

Cite for the statistics