student admissions and TJ lawsuit

[Anonymous]

Any word on what happened at the summary judgment hearing yesterday?

[Anonymous]

Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

That was always a given.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

It was never a question since their case had no merit. You can't hope to win a case based on wild and baseless conspiracy theories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

Another bad take.

This is a federal lawsuit, not a state-law recall procedure.

If the suit were frivolous, the judge would have granted FCPS's prior motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim. He did not do so, and that allowed the plaintiffs to go ahead and obtain discovery in the case, some of which indicates that FCPS's intentions were race-driven.

What the judge did earlier this week is indicate that he's prepared to rule on motions for summary judgment, because the key facts are evident, and there's no need to convene a jury to resolve disputed facts. He may rule for the plaintiffs, or he may rule for FCPS, but the fact that he's going to issue an opinion in the first instance actually expedites the inevitable appeals that will be taken here. In fact, there's a reasonably good chance it may make its way to the Supreme Court, and then Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor will be the only ones defending what FCPS has done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

Another bad take.

This is a federal lawsuit, not a state-law recall procedure.


If the suit were frivolous, the judge would have granted FCPS's prior motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim. He did not do so, and that allowed the plaintiffs to go ahead and obtain discovery in the case, some of which indicates that FCPS's intentions were race-driven.

What the judge did earlier this week is indicate that he's prepared to rule on motions for summary judgment, because the key facts are evident, and there's no need to convene a jury to resolve disputed facts. He may rule for the plaintiffs, or he may rule for FCPS, but the fact that he's going to issue an opinion in the first instance actually expedites the inevitable appeals that will be taken here. In fact, there's a reasonably good chance it may make its way to the Supreme Court, and then Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor will be the only ones defending what FCPS has done.

This whole case is huge nothingburger. There is no evidence that the policy was intended to discriminate against Asians. Supreme Court? LOL!!! What point of law would they need to interpret?

[Anonymous]

If the some families think their kids deserve to be at TJ and think some changes in admissions have blocked their kids in the name of diversity and wokeness, send your kids to Basis. It’s better than TJ anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the some families think their kids deserve to be at TJ and think some changes in admissions have blocked their kids in the name of diversity and wokeness, send your kids to Basis. It’s better than TJ anyway.

Sure, if the county will pay for it . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

Another bad take.

This is a federal lawsuit, not a state-law recall procedure.


If the suit were frivolous, the judge would have granted FCPS's prior motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim. He did not do so, and that allowed the plaintiffs to go ahead and obtain discovery in the case, some of which indicates that FCPS's intentions were race-driven.

What the judge did earlier this week is indicate that he's prepared to rule on motions for summary judgment, because the key facts are evident, and there's no need to convene a jury to resolve disputed facts. He may rule for the plaintiffs, or he may rule for FCPS, but the fact that he's going to issue an opinion in the first instance actually expedites the inevitable appeals that will be taken here. In fact, there's a reasonably good chance it may make its way to the Supreme Court, and then Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor will be the only ones defending what FCPS has done.

This whole case is huge nothingburger. There is no evidence that the policy was intended to discriminate against Asians. Supreme Court? LOL!!! What point of law would they need to interpret?

+1 I know, these people have delusions of grandeur.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the some families think their kids deserve to be at TJ and think some changes in admissions have blocked their kids in the name of diversity and wokeness, send your kids to Basis. It’s better than TJ anyway.

Sure, if the county will pay for it . . .

Looking for a free ride?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

Another bad take.

This is a federal lawsuit, not a state-law recall procedure.

If the suit were frivolous, the judge would have granted FCPS's prior motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim. He did not do so, and that allowed the plaintiffs to go ahead and obtain discovery in the case, some of which indicates that FCPS's intentions were race-driven.

What the judge did earlier this week is indicate that he's prepared to rule on motions for summary judgment, because the key facts are evident, and there's no need to convene a jury to resolve disputed facts. He may rule for the plaintiffs, or he may rule for FCPS, but the fact that he's going to issue an opinion in the first instance actually expedites the inevitable appeals that will be taken here. In fact, there's a reasonably good chance it may make its way to the Supreme Court, and then Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor will be the only ones defending what FCPS has done.

But here’s the thing… courts can mandate that a policy be removed, but they cannot mandate that a policy be reinstated. All a victory would do is force FCPS to come up with another way to accomplish the same goal. And they will.

Elect a new School Board in late 2023. Then you’ll get what you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

Another bad take.

This is a federal lawsuit, not a state-law recall procedure.

If the suit were frivolous, the judge would have granted FCPS's prior motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim. He did not do so, and that allowed the plaintiffs to go ahead and obtain discovery in the case, some of which indicates that FCPS's intentions were race-driven.

What the judge did earlier this week is indicate that he's prepared to rule on motions for summary judgment, because the key facts are evident, and there's no need to convene a jury to resolve disputed facts. He may rule for the plaintiffs, or he may rule for FCPS, but the fact that he's going to issue an opinion in the first instance actually expedites the inevitable appeals that will be taken here. In fact, there's a reasonably good chance it may make its way to the Supreme Court, and then Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor will be the only ones defending what FCPS has done.

But here’s the thing… courts can mandate that a policy be removed, but they cannot mandate that a policy be reinstated. All a victory would do is force FCPS to come up with another way to accomplish the same goal. And they will.

Elect a new School Board in late 2023. Then you’ll get what you want.

Judges have discretion in fashioning the relief they consider appropriate.

And change could come to a Governor’s School before 2023 or if the state Senate flips Republican in 2023. It’s not all about what the FCPS School Board wants when it comes to TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coalition for TJ got crushed. Judge canceled the trial scheduled for next week.

Bad take. Judge, who previously declined to dismiss the case, said he can rule from the bench because the material facts are not in dispute.

And some of those facts are anything but favorable to FCPS.

While it's theoretically possible for him to rule for the plaintiffs, I think that it's much more likely that this signals a favorable conclusion for FCPS. Kinda how all those recalls for board members are going. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. You need actual legal grounds to win.

Another bad take.

This is a federal lawsuit, not a state-law recall procedure.

If the suit were frivolous, the judge would have granted FCPS's prior motion to dismiss the case for failure to state a claim. He did not do so, and that allowed the plaintiffs to go ahead and obtain discovery in the case, some of which indicates that FCPS's intentions were race-driven.

What the judge did earlier this week is indicate that he's prepared to rule on motions for summary judgment, because the key facts are evident, and there's no need to convene a jury to resolve disputed facts. He may rule for the plaintiffs, or he may rule for FCPS, but the fact that he's going to issue an opinion in the first instance actually expedites the inevitable appeals that will be taken here. In fact, there's a reasonably good chance it may make its way to the Supreme Court, and then Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor will be the only ones defending what FCPS has done.

But here’s the thing… courts can mandate that a policy be removed, but they cannot mandate that a policy be reinstated. All a victory would do is force FCPS to come up with another way to accomplish the same goal. And they will.

Elect a new School Board in late 2023. Then you’ll get what you want.

Judges have discretion in fashioning the relief they consider appropriate.

And change could come to a Governor’s School before 2023 or if the state Senate flips Republican in 2023. It’s not all about what the FCPS School Board wants when it comes to TJ.

But I mean... what would that relief even look like? You can't retroactively admit or decline students involved in the admissions process for 2025.

You're already knee-deep in the admissions process for 2026 and it's too late to try to introduce an exam - plus there are families who have decided either to apply or not apply based on the existing admissions process.

And dictating some terms of an admissions process for 2027 leaves plenty of time for the School Board to investigate new ways of creating an admissions process that suits their needs (cough lottery cough).

And this is all assuming that C4TJ even wins their case and that it's not appealed to a higher court.

This is going to be an endless endeavor in tail-chasing. Is it possible that the real goal is just to keep people angry?