APS cancels Summer school for many previously qualified students due to lack of staffing

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

We are just waiting on our jobs to green light full time remote and then we are going to high tail it out of here. Our friends and family in other parts of the country--including public school employees--are absolutely horrified and aghast at what is going on here.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

And will be facing the repercussions for years. Kids that got out will be ok. I feel for the ones that couldn’t. I don’t think anyone realizes how big of a catch-up APS will have to do for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

Harder to obtain degrees + low wages = even less teachers. Sounds like you don't even want summer school.

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I think many of us are just over this constant shit storm. No one wins, but someone has to take one for the team, and while teachers shouldn't have to work summer (it's in the contract) it's just more shit on parents and families who have yet another thing reneged on.

There are families at all levels who would have been planning for summer school, making their care arrangements and other plans around it. To have it taken away when there are few other alternatives for the summer now is incredibly insensitive. It's the same problem with the school year in that parents keep being strung along and having everything pulled from under them at the last minute. Yes, there are teachers with families who might not be inclined to work this summer, when their salary won't cover the cost of camps, but APS SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS THE f*** OUT!

How hard is that? Bonuses didn't work? Did you offer child care? Did you offer to start new, graduating teachers this summer early to meet need? J-1 Visas? Make it work. I think that's all we were asking. The rest of us have to make it work.

At my job, we worked this whole time with no vaccine. I'm DoD and civilians were dead last to be offered vaccines, even though we had to go to work this whole time in person in some capacity. We currently work shifts starting at 0400 to keep the numbers low in our facility, so I have little sympathy for APS to not get it's shit together and make it work. We all have our sacrifices to keep our jobs and school not working the way it should has already cost some people their careers.

We're all fried. Everyone. As tax payers, we expect the school system to work for us. I think APS knows that we can't all go private (unless there are dozens of new private schools opening). A 7% loss of students is a big deal and it's the students with means who are leaving.

I'm just disappointed for the families who were counting on summer school to educate their kids and now need a place for them to go when most camps cut numbers and are full. I'm so thankful we weren't even entertaining summer school.

I mean - I also work there and honestly don't know a single person who isn't looking for a new job and trying to quit, because of how we were treated. Just like I don't know any teachers who are signing up to teach summer school for pennies after being treated they way they have been this past year. The lessen here isn't be more like D** The lesson is that labor is finite resource that has to be properly compensated and treated with some minimal amount of respect. Or you will lose them. People vote with their feet. Always.

The problem is, who will hire you? I would never, ever consider hiring a former teacher after this year.

And what else can be done with an elementary education degree? LOL

That’s the dumbest statement ever. DH left teaching in March and now earns much more, plus has a better work life balance.

After the first few years, teachers have degrees beyond their undergrad and increasingly, even novice teachers were not education majors, but rather alt cert. this means a more widely marketable degree and sometimes advanced degrees. But as for those elementary ed degrees: A friend’s DD graduated last spring, has Type 1 diabetes, and was advised to avoid classrooms. She was hired by a textbook company. She earns almost twice a starting teacher’s salary in her district. That’s one other thing that can be done.

STEM teachers and those with specialized degrees will leave. They don't need you to hire them. The economy's starting to open up.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I think many of us are just over this constant shit storm. No one wins, but someone has to take one for the team, and while teachers shouldn't have to work summer (it's in the contract) it's just more shit on parents and families who have yet another thing reneged on.

There are families at all levels who would have been planning for summer school, making their care arrangements and other plans around it. To have it taken away when there are few other alternatives for the summer now is incredibly insensitive. It's the same problem with the school year in that parents keep being strung along and having everything pulled from under them at the last minute. Yes, there are teachers with families who might not be inclined to work this summer, when their salary won't cover the cost of camps, but APS SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS THE f*** OUT!

How hard is that? Bonuses didn't work? Did you offer child care? Did you offer to start new, graduating teachers this summer early to meet need? J-1 Visas? Make it work. I think that's all we were asking. The rest of us have to make it work.

At my job, we worked this whole time with no vaccine. I'm DoD and civilians were dead last to be offered vaccines, even though we had to go to work this whole time in person in some capacity. We currently work shifts starting at 0400 to keep the numbers low in our facility, so I have little sympathy for APS to not get it's shit together and make it work. We all have our sacrifices to keep our jobs and school not working the way it should has already cost some people their careers.

We're all fried. Everyone. As tax payers, we expect the school system to work for us. I think APS knows that we can't all go private (unless there are dozens of new private schools opening). A 7% loss of students is a big deal and it's the students with means who are leaving.

I'm just disappointed for the families who were counting on summer school to educate their kids and now need a place for them to go when most camps cut numbers and are full. I'm so thankful we weren't even entertaining summer school.

I mean - I also work there and honestly don't know a single person who isn't looking for a new job and trying to quit, because of how we were treated. Just like I don't know any teachers who are signing up to teach summer school for pennies after being treated they way they have been this past year. The lessen here isn't be more like D** The lesson is that labor is finite resource that has to be properly compensated and treated with some minimal amount of respect. Or you will lose them. People vote with their feet. Always.

The problem is, who will hire you? I would never, ever consider hiring a former teacher after this year.

And what else can be done with an elementary education degree? LOL

That’s the dumbest statement ever. DH left teaching in March and now earns much more, plus has a better work life balance.

After the first few years, teachers have degrees beyond their undergrad and increasingly, even novice teachers were not education majors, but rather alt cert. this means a more widely marketable degree and sometimes advanced degrees. But as for those elementary ed degrees: A friend’s DD graduated last spring, has Type 1 diabetes, and was advised to avoid classrooms. She was hired by a textbook company. She earns almost twice a starting teacher’s salary in her district. That’s one other thing that can be done.

STEM teachers and those with specialized degrees will leave. They don't need you to hire them. The economy's starting to open up.

Be careful what you wish for.

STEM teachers will be the only ones able to get out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think many of us are just over this constant shit storm. No one wins, but someone has to take one for the team, and while teachers shouldn't have to work summer (it's in the contract) it's just more shit on parents and families who have yet another thing reneged on.

There are families at all levels who would have been planning for summer school, making their care arrangements and other plans around it. To have it taken away when there are few other alternatives for the summer now is incredibly insensitive. It's the same problem with the school year in that parents keep being strung along and having everything pulled from under them at the last minute. Yes, there are teachers with families who might not be inclined to work this summer, when their salary won't cover the cost of camps, but APS SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS THE f*** OUT!

How hard is that? Bonuses didn't work? Did you offer child care? Did you offer to start new, graduating teachers this summer early to meet need? J-1 Visas? Make it work. I think that's all we were asking. The rest of us have to make it work.

At my job, we worked this whole time with no vaccine. I'm DoD and civilians were dead last to be offered vaccines, even though we had to go to work this whole time in person in some capacity. We currently work shifts starting at 0400 to keep the numbers low in our facility, so I have little sympathy for APS to not get it's shit together and make it work. We all have our sacrifices to keep our jobs and school not working the way it should has already cost some people their careers.

We're all fried. Everyone. As tax payers, we expect the school system to work for us. I think APS knows that we can't all go private (unless there are dozens of new private schools opening). A 7% loss of students is a big deal and it's the students with means who are leaving.

I'm just disappointed for the families who were counting on summer school to educate their kids and now need a place for them to go when most camps cut numbers and are full. I'm so thankful we weren't even entertaining summer school.

I mean - I also work there and honestly don't know a single person who isn't looking for a new job and trying to quit, because of how we were treated. Just like I don't know any teachers who are signing up to teach summer school for pennies after being treated they way they have been this past year. The lessen here isn't be more like D** The lesson is that labor is finite resource that has to be properly compensated and treated with some minimal amount of respect. Or you will lose them. People vote with their feet. Always.

The problem is, who will hire you? I would never, ever consider hiring a former teacher after this year.

And what else can be done with an elementary education degree? LOL

That’s the dumbest statement ever. DH left teaching in March and now earns much more, plus has a better work life balance.

After the first few years, teachers have degrees beyond their undergrad and increasingly, even novice teachers were not education majors, but rather alt cert. this means a more widely marketable degree and sometimes advanced degrees. But as for those elementary ed degrees: A friend’s DD graduated last spring, has Type 1 diabetes, and was advised to avoid classrooms. She was hired by a textbook company. She earns almost twice a starting teacher’s salary in her district. That’s one other thing that can be done.

STEM teachers and those with specialized degrees will leave. They don't need you to hire them. The economy's starting to open up.

Be careful what you wish for.

STEM teachers will be the only ones able to get out.

Also, many are discussing early retirement. Because of parents like you. They don't need this abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think many of us are just over this constant shit storm. No one wins, but someone has to take one for the team, and while teachers shouldn't have to work summer (it's in the contract) it's just more shit on parents and families who have yet another thing reneged on.

There are families at all levels who would have been planning for summer school, making their care arrangements and other plans around it. To have it taken away when there are few other alternatives for the summer now is incredibly insensitive. It's the same problem with the school year in that parents keep being strung along and having everything pulled from under them at the last minute. Yes, there are teachers with families who might not be inclined to work this summer, when their salary won't cover the cost of camps, but APS SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS THE f*** OUT!

How hard is that? Bonuses didn't work? Did you offer child care? Did you offer to start new, graduating teachers this summer early to meet need? J-1 Visas? Make it work. I think that's all we were asking. The rest of us have to make it work.

At my job, we worked this whole time with no vaccine. I'm DoD and civilians were dead last to be offered vaccines, even though we had to go to work this whole time in person in some capacity. We currently work shifts starting at 0400 to keep the numbers low in our facility, so I have little sympathy for APS to not get it's shit together and make it work. We all have our sacrifices to keep our jobs and school not working the way it should has already cost some people their careers.

We're all fried. Everyone. As tax payers, we expect the school system to work for us. I think APS knows that we can't all go private (unless there are dozens of new private schools opening). A 7% loss of students is a big deal and it's the students with means who are leaving.

I'm just disappointed for the families who were counting on summer school to educate their kids and now need a place for them to go when most camps cut numbers and are full. I'm so thankful we weren't even entertaining summer school.

I mean - I also work there and honestly don't know a single person who isn't looking for a new job and trying to quit, because of how we were treated. Just like I don't know any teachers who are signing up to teach summer school for pennies after being treated they way they have been this past year. The lessen here isn't be more like D** The lesson is that labor is finite resource that has to be properly compensated and treated with some minimal amount of respect. Or you will lose them. People vote with their feet. Always.

The problem is, who will hire you? I would never, ever consider hiring a former teacher after this year.

And what else can be done with an elementary education degree? LOL

That’s the dumbest statement ever. DH left teaching in March and now earns much more, plus has a better work life balance.

After the first few years, teachers have degrees beyond their undergrad and increasingly, even novice teachers were not education majors, but rather alt cert. this means a more widely marketable degree and sometimes advanced degrees. But as for those elementary ed degrees: A friend’s DD graduated last spring, has Type 1 diabetes, and was advised to avoid classrooms. She was hired by a textbook company. She earns almost twice a starting teacher’s salary in her district. That’s one other thing that can be done.

STEM teachers and those with specialized degrees will leave. They don't need you to hire them. The economy's starting to open up.

Be careful what you wish for.

STEM teachers will be the only ones able to get out.

Also, many are discussing early retirement. Because of parents like you. They don't need this abuse.

I hope those 40 year olds that are discussing early retirement come from family money. Or have high-earning husbands.

Seriously, there can only be 2-3 people in this situation. It’s not like half of APS’ teachers are planning to retire next year 🙄🙄🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

So I can see from your post why you aren’t the one teaching your child the things that “should be covered in school.”

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

So I can see from your post why you aren’t the one teaching your child the things that “should be covered in school.”

Good one! Burnnnnn 🙄

We can tell who spends her days with 10 year olds. Seriously, aren’t you supposed to be teaching right now? Or is lunch at 10 these days?

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

We are just waiting on our jobs to green light full time remote and then we are going to high tail it out of here. Our friends and family in other parts of the country--including public school employees--are absolutely horrified and aghast at what is going on here.

The irony of waiting to go full time remote while not even contemplating that some teachers may actually need the same accommodations.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

So I can see from your post why you aren’t the one teaching your child the things that “should be covered in school.”

Good one! Burnnnnn 🙄

We can tell who spends her days with 10 year olds. Seriously, aren’t you supposed to be teaching right now? Or is lunch at 10 these days?

Teachers are busy teaching, nimrod. *Parents* are calling out the teacher-hater a-holes.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

We are just waiting on our jobs to green light full time remote and then we are going to high tail it out of here. Our friends and family in other parts of the country--including public school employees--are absolutely horrified and aghast at what is going on here.

The irony of waiting to go full time remote while not even contemplating that some teachers may actually need the same accommodations.

Seems like the only reason they want to go remote is to move to a public school district that actually offers in-person instruction, and would be happy to stay otherwise.

Teachers are just lazy and want to stay home for…forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

So I can see from your post why you aren’t the one teaching your child the things that “should be covered in school.”

Good one! Burnnnnn 🙄

We can tell who spends her days with 10 year olds. Seriously, aren’t you supposed to be teaching right now? Or is lunch at 10 these days?

Teachers are busy teaching, nimrod. *Parents* are calling out the teacher-hater a-holes.

Noooooope. Plenty of comments from teachers on here during school hours. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

We are just waiting on our jobs to green light full time remote and then we are going to high tail it out of here. Our friends and family in other parts of the country--including public school employees--are absolutely horrified and aghast at what is going on here.

The irony of waiting to go full time remote while not even contemplating that some teachers may actually need the same accommodations.

Your reply doesn't even make sense.

Full time remote= ability to relocate anywhere and work remotely. ie, get the bleep out of Arlington because of the *hitshow that this year has been.

Teachers need to flee the abysmal manufactured crisis that APS has created? More power to them, I'll see them when we all relocate to less upside down locales.

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Anonymous wrote:Physician here. An essential worker is an essential! If you want to be in job that isn’t important , requires dedication and sacrifice and very necessary, then don’t be a teacher. I never once complained that my employer asked me go to VHC to take care of Covid patients. I never questioned anyones intentions. I took the proper precautions , followed CDD guidelines and did my job. I am still alive and kicking. There was no need for closing schools and hiding. Everyone who was essential needed to rise up, wear PPE, gloves and work. We are supposed to be in a different class all together and it’s sad teachers didn’t understand that but every other essential worker did. Sorry to break it to you...masks actually work and that was all that was really needed. That is the truth the private schools teachers and the rest of the public schools systems knew already.

Perhaps APS should pay them physician’s wages then.

Perhaps teachers’ degrees should be harder to obtain. As it stands, it’s one of the easiest degrees to get.

PP is a physician, but I am a nurse that also had to go in. Hospital custodians, and hell, even Costco workers, went to work without complaint. The entire time.
Without sufficient PPE. Was it stressful? Absolutely! But we are essential workers, just as teachers are.

So cut the crap about having “the worst year ever”. It’s a bit tone deaf when WE ALL HAVE HAD THE FIRST YEAR EVER.

Or fine, take the summer break, and then don’t ever complain about your low salaries ever again.

My husband’s cousin left her job as a waitress/bartender to become a nurse. She didn’t even have, or ever attain, a BA. She got fired for stealing pills. So, in short, not all essential workers, in any profession, are heroes. And maybe they aren’t any better educated or trained either, but they are better compensated, that’s for sure!

You’re a moron. Essential workers that are cashiers/stockroom employees at grocery stores aren’t compensated better than teachers. Nor is an LPN working in a nursing home.

I seriously have zero respect for teachers anymore. I’m not even complaining that they don’t want to work in the summer. I’m upset that they haven’t worked all year long. Such failures.

Sounds like you’re the failure who can only afford a public education for your precious children from teachers whom you despise and consider less educated land capable and beneath you! Why would you want your children in APS if this is how you value the people who used to spend more waking time with your children than you did?!?!

I used it as free babysitting while I worked, then I paid for outside tutoring to learn the things that should be covered in school. Next year, kids are In private. (Speaking of people fleeing APS, it’s not just teachers, but a lot of students also.) It’s horrible that families without means are stuck with the crappy product that is an APS education.

So I can see from your post why you aren’t the one teaching your child the things that “should be covered in school.”

Good one! Burnnnnn 🙄

We can tell who spends her days with 10 year olds. Seriously, aren’t you supposed to be teaching right now? Or is lunch at 10 these days?

Teachers are busy teaching, nimrod. *Parents* are calling out the teacher-hater a-holes.

Correct. I am PP, and I’m not a teacher, nor have I been. I just really like experienced and dedicated teachers, and my children have been fortunate to have both, almost exclusively. I don’t want them to leave because of the parents who blame them, castigate them for being lazy, and complain that, despite advanced degrees, they aren’t very capable, educated, but and intelligent people who could easily find other work.