APS - why are teachers so terrified?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

This is one of the many reasons parents are furious that many teachers don't want to return. Many people didn't have a choice, couldn't advocate for HEPA filters before returning, weren't able to get a vaccine, etc etc. They either went back to work or were forced to quit. The educational system has been so different for reasons I can't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. If the parents can act like hysterical, irrational a-holes, then I think we can cut the teachers some slack here.

Yep - totally agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

This is one of the many reasons parents are furious that many teachers don't want to return. Many people didn't have a choice, couldn't advocate for HEPA filters before returning, weren't able to get a vaccine, etc etc. They either went back to work or were forced to quit. The educational system has been so different for reasons I can't understand.

But that guy DOES have a choice. And he chose to begin work at 4 am. I begin work at 5 am. And then I, too, switch shifts in the schoolroom with my spouse. I'm not grousing about it at all. Seems like this guy is a complainer and a whiner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. If the parents can act like hysterical, irrational a-holes, then I think we can cut the teachers some slack here.

Yep - totally agree.

+1 I completely agree as a parent.

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Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

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They’re not. This is fake news.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re not. This is fake news.

But as we read earlier, you are letting a handful of extremists speak for you because you do not want to collectively put your names together and publicly represent the truth in any way. So this is what we are left with, and yes it is very bad PR for you.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re not. This is fake news.

But as we read earlier, you are letting a handful of extremists speak for you because you do not want to collectively put your names together and publicly represent the truth in any way. So this is what we are left with, and yes it is very bad PR for you.

Bullshit. There are plenty of parents that don’t agree with the loudest assholes on the Internet, too.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re not. This is fake news.

But as we read earlier, you are letting a handful of extremists speak for you because you do not want to collectively put your names together and publicly represent the truth in any way. So this is what we are left with, and yes it is very bad PR for you.

I told my classes I’m excited to come back and see them. No one posts about it, because most of us have, and it’s just not a big deal. I’m sorry this one thing happened, but one teacher does not represent all of us. Don’t be daft.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

Troublemakers? In America's nerdiest, most risk averse, rules-following county?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

Troublemakers? In America's nerdiest, most risk averse, rules-following county?

Loudon County has lots of nerds?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

Troublemakers? In America's nerdiest, most risk averse, rules-following county?

Have you ever volunteered in an Arlington classroom? Lots of kids who act as if they’ve never been disciplined. The same kids are running amok on teams. Kicking teachers and mates out of teams, posting inappropriate comments in the chat. It’s a real treat.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re not. This is fake news.

But as we read earlier, you are letting a handful of extremists speak for you because you do not want to collectively put your names together and publicly represent the truth in any way. So this is what we are left with, and yes it is very bad PR for you.

I won’t judge you for lawsuit guy if you don’t judge my by obsessive ceramics teacher or whoever

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

This is one of the many reasons parents are furious that many teachers don't want to return. Many people didn't have a choice, couldn't advocate for HEPA filters before returning, weren't able to get a vaccine, etc etc. They either went back to work or were forced to quit. The educational system has been so different for reasons I can't understand.

But that guy DOES have a choice. And he chose to begin work at 4 am. I begin work at 5 am. And then I, too, switch shifts in the schoolroom with my spouse. I'm not grousing about it at all. Seems like this guy is a complainer and a whiner.

The posts didn't say anyone chose a 4 AM shift, it said the solution "involved 4 am shifts." These workers had to return, unvaccinated, and we have no idea whether they had their pick of shifts, were assigned, or had to compromise with others to maintain coverage. I feel like some of these posts implying that everyone else has more options than teachers are bordering on ridiculousness.