FCV, Arlington Girls, and Metro United going to Girls Academy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet a whole lot of college coaches would show up at a tournament where the local GA and ECNL O3/04/05 teams play each other. Heck, bring in Armour and Pipeline and Richmond United. Leaving the whole GA versus ECNL thing aside, that would be a fantastic opportunity for more local coaches to see all the local girls. I hope with COVID and travel restrictions somehow the clubs are able to make that happen now that the draconian DA rules are gone.

Agreed. Would be nice for the loyalist parents to give up the fighting and see the benefits of this kind of model.

ENCL will not cooperate with GAL. Right now ECNL biggest selling point is they are the only elite league and get all the scouts. They do not care about kids or parents ....As tony soprano said “we're running a business here"

And to have a monopoly they just need to add the DAs.

GAL will be pain in the neck until then.

You're hoping a business does what you want verse adjusting to the market place. If you want to play ECNL, tryout at an ECNL club of your choice. If you don't, don't.

I think that is the point. Many of us do not want to leave our GA clubs. We are happy there. Our girls like their teammates, they get good coaching, and logistically we can get them to practice each day. It looks to us like there will be plenty of great competition in the GA, and plenty of flexibility to seek out other high quality games as well.

We are adjusting to the marketplace - we are keeping our kids where they are most happy. But some of us think the the marketplace would be addressing the needs/wants of its clientele better if the ECNL had admitted the top 3/4, or even all of, the DA teams. And there are ample reasons why that would have been a good move for the ECNL as a league, and beneficial for the current ECNL clubs, players and parents. ECNL would have a much higher percentage of the country’s best players and clubs had they done so. Can either league claim to be the only top level league in this country? Not honestly. Can ECNL claim to be the only top league in this area without FCV and Arlington, or the only top league nationally without Tophat, FC Dallas, Legends, Beach, NEFC, etc? To anyone being honest with themselves, the answer can only be no.

Do I think we have a right to dictate what the marketplace should do? Nope. But like anyone else with any other product, I’m going to express a little frustration when to me there was an obvious and easy way for the marketplace to offer us all a better product.

In the meantime, we are all, both leagues, slated to travel more at a time when we aren’t even sure we can travel at all. And we will be subjected to endless debates over which league is better when the obvious correct answer is, they both are.

Cut the crap. You want to stay with your team and still be considered the top league. That's all. Its about ego

You got it half right. We want to stay with our team, our coaches, our teammates and our club.

As for the other half, we want a high level of competition that allows our kid to play at the highest level. It would be nice if we could do that all together, not traveling past Loudoun and McLean to get to a comparable opponent further away. Just like you could be playing us instead of traveling to South Carolina for a comparable opponent.

Do we need to be in The Top League? Nope. Because there isn’t only one. There wasn’t only one when our kid started in the DA, and there isn’t only one now. An average team in a higher league should be able to dominate in a lower league. I have zero doubt that an average ECNL team would not dominate in the GA, and an average GA team would not dominate in the ECNL. They are both great leagues with great clubs, that also have some clubs that are a step below that, and some that are quite a bit below that still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

Yelling poor kids they can be on the B team is not the point. Duh

[Anonymous]

^Telling*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

ECNL R isn’t “Elite”. It doesn’t offer a showcasing platform. It is just a travel league no different than CCL, NCSL or EDP.

Seriously, to promote ECNL R as anything more than that is laughable

Its for the GAL poster that wants Pro/Reg and for the poster (if different) that wants all the clubs under one umbrella, and its for the poster (again if different) that wants more localized travel at a cheaper cost for disadvantaged kids. Problem solved.

But again, USSF started a league to rival the already formed national league...and then collapsed. That's why you are here. Because of them. The ball is now in your court. The choice is yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

ECNL R isn’t “Elite”. It doesn’t offer a showcasing platform. It is just a travel league no different than CCL, NCSL or EDP.

Seriously, to promote ECNL R as anything more than that is laughable

Its for the GAL poster that wants Pro/Reg and for the poster (if different) that wants all the clubs under one umbrella, and its for the poster (again if different) that wants more localized travel at a cheaper cost for disadvantaged kids. Problem solved.

But again, USSF started a league to rival the already formed national league...and then collapsed. That's why you are here. Because of them. The ball is now in your court. The choice is yours.

It isn’t Pro/Rel. It is just NPL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

ECNL R isn’t “Elite”. It doesn’t offer a showcasing platform. It is just a travel league no different than CCL, NCSL or EDP.

Seriously, to promote ECNL R as anything more than that is laughable

Its for the GAL poster that wants Pro/Reg and for the poster (if different) that wants all the clubs under one umbrella, and its for the poster (again if different) that wants more localized travel at a cheaper cost for disadvantaged kids. Problem solved.

But again, USSF started a league to rival the already formed national league...and then collapsed. That's why you are here. Because of them. The ball is now in your court. The choice is yours.

I’ve made my choice. Why are you here trying to claim it is the wrong choice for me?

You ARE here. My choice is made. You don’t need to sell your league here anymore. I chose this league with the same clubs last year and nothing has changed. If I felt there was an impressive team to move to I’d consider the team but I’m not chasing a league patch to be on a team I’m just not impressed with. Seriously, you play for a team not a league.

Sell me your team pal otherwise sit down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

ECNL R isn’t “Elite”. It doesn’t offer a showcasing platform. It is just a travel league no different than CCL, NCSL or EDP.

Seriously, to promote ECNL R as anything more than that is laughable

Its for the GAL poster that wants Pro/Reg and for the poster (if different) that wants all the clubs under one umbrella, and its for the poster (again if different) that wants more localized travel at a cheaper cost for disadvantaged kids. Problem solved.

But again, USSF started a league to rival the already formed national league...and then collapsed. That's why you are here. Because of them. The ball is now in your court. The choice is yours.

I’ve made my choice. Why are you here trying to claim it is the wrong choice for me?

You ARE here. My choice is made. You don’t need to sell your league here anymore. I chose this league with the same clubs last year and nothing has changed. If I felt there was an impressive team to move to I’d consider the team but I’m not chasing a league patch to be on a team I’m just not impressed with. Seriously, you play for a team not a league.

Sell me your team pal otherwise sit down.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

ECNL R isn’t “Elite”. It doesn’t offer a showcasing platform. It is just a travel league no different than CCL, NCSL or EDP.

Seriously, to promote ECNL R as anything more than that is laughable

If ECNL wanted to be elite, they should have picked up FCV and Arlington while relegating two of four local ECNL clubs who are consistently at the bottom of the table to ECNL-R. I’m not sure what ECNL wants to be anymore, they are just another league. They have been focused so much on fighting us soccer and the DA, that they’ve lost their way. As for GA, they are saying it’s the DA structure with high school play and increased subs. Prior to us soccer folding the DA, a player usually chose a team based upon HS play, location and competitiveness. Now, the HS decision is moot and the primary criteri are location and competitiveness. That’s an easier choice to make in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet a whole lot of college coaches would show up at a tournament where the local GA and ECNL O3/04/05 teams play each other. Heck, bring in Armour and Pipeline and Richmond United. Leaving the whole GA versus ECNL thing aside, that would be a fantastic opportunity for more local coaches to see all the local girls. I hope with COVID and travel restrictions somehow the clubs are able to make that happen now that the draconian DA rules are gone.

Agreed. Would be nice for the loyalist parents to give up the fighting and see the benefits of this kind of model.

ENCL will not cooperate with GAL. Right now ECNL biggest selling point is they are the only elite league and get all the scouts. They do not care about kids or parents ....As tony soprano said “we're running a business here"

And to have a monopoly they just need to add the DAs.

GAL will be pain in the neck until then.

You're hoping a business does what you want verse adjusting to the market place. If you want to play ECNL, tryout at an ECNL club of your choice. If you don't, don't.

I think that is the point. Many of us do not want to leave our GA clubs. We are happy there. Our girls like their teammates, they get good coaching, and logistically we can get them to practice each day. It looks to us like there will be plenty of great competition in the GA, and plenty of flexibility to seek out other high quality games as well.

We are adjusting to the marketplace - we are keeping our kids where they are most happy. But some of us think the the marketplace would be addressing the needs/wants of its clientele better if the ECNL had admitted the top 3/4, or even all of, the DA teams. And there are ample reasons why that would have been a good move for the ECNL as a league, and beneficial for the current ECNL clubs, players and parents. ECNL would have a much higher percentage of the country’s best players and clubs had they done so. Can either league claim to be the only top level league in this country? Not honestly. Can ECNL claim to be the only top league in this area without FCV and Arlington, or the only top league nationally without Tophat, FC Dallas, Legends, Beach, NEFC, etc? To anyone being honest with themselves, the answer can only be no.

Do I think we have a right to dictate what the marketplace should do? Nope. But like anyone else with any other product, I’m going to express a little frustration when to me there was an obvious and easy way for the marketplace to offer us all a better product.

In the meantime, we are all, both leagues, slated to travel more at a time when we aren’t even sure we can travel at all. And we will be subjected to endless debates over which league is better when the obvious correct answer is, they both are.

Cut the crap. You want to stay with your team and still be considered the top league. That's all. Its about ego

You got it half right. We want to stay with our team, our coaches, our teammates and our club.

As for the other half, we want a high level of competition that allows our kid to play at the highest level. It would be nice if we could do that all together, not traveling past Loudoun and McLean to get to a comparable opponent further away. Just like you could be playing us instead of traveling to South Carolina for a comparable opponent.

Do we need to be in The Top League? Nope. Because there isn’t only one. There wasn’t only one when our kid started in the DA, and there isn’t only one now. An average team in a higher league should be able to dominate in a lower league. I have zero doubt that an average ECNL team would not dominate in the GA, and an average GA team would not dominate in the ECNL. They are both great leagues with great clubs, that also have some clubs that are a step below that, and some that are quite a bit below that still.

The GA is not a great league. They aren't even a league. They are a tier in an existing league called DPL. The DPL is a third tier league.

You may want to check in on the NJ board to see how the view GAL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the GAL clubs should have went ECNL-R. That would have satisfied your need for local travel and cost issues.

But GAL didn't care. They went off and started that own little league because they are poo poo faces

Why would anyone do ECNL R? Really NPL? This is how brainwashed you all are to a set of letters.

ECNL R is literally NPL. Only the letters changed.

So you can do local travel and help disadvantage kids. Duh.

Check your ego at the door guy.

LOL

ECNL R isn’t “Elite”. It doesn’t offer a showcasing platform. It is just a travel league no different than CCL, NCSL or EDP.

Seriously, to promote ECNL R as anything more than that is laughable

Its for the GAL poster that wants Pro/Reg and for the poster (if different) that wants all the clubs under one umbrella, and its for the poster (again if different) that wants more localized travel at a cheaper cost for disadvantaged kids. Problem solved.

But again, USSF started a league to rival the already formed national league...and then collapsed. That's why you are here. Because of them. The ball is now in your court. The choice is yours.

I’ve made my choice. Why are you here trying to claim it is the wrong choice for me?

You ARE here. My choice is made. You don’t need to sell your league here anymore. I chose this league with the same clubs last year and nothing has changed. If I felt there was an impressive team to move to I’d consider the team but I’m not chasing a league patch to be on a team I’m just not impressed with. Seriously, you play for a team not a league.

Sell me your team pal otherwise sit down.

+1

No one would ever know it with all the whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet a whole lot of college coaches would show up at a tournament where the local GA and ECNL O3/04/05 teams play each other. Heck, bring in Armour and Pipeline and Richmond United. Leaving the whole GA versus ECNL thing aside, that would be a fantastic opportunity for more local coaches to see all the local girls. I hope with COVID and travel restrictions somehow the clubs are able to make that happen now that the draconian DA rules are gone.

Agreed. Would be nice for the loyalist parents to give up the fighting and see the benefits of this kind of model.

ENCL will not cooperate with GAL. Right now ECNL biggest selling point is they are the only elite league and get all the scouts. They do not care about kids or parents ....As tony soprano said “we're running a business here"

And to have a monopoly they just need to add the DAs.

GAL will be pain in the neck until then.

You're hoping a business does what you want verse adjusting to the market place. If you want to play ECNL, tryout at an ECNL club of your choice. If you don't, don't.

I think that is the point. Many of us do not want to leave our GA clubs. We are happy there. Our girls like their teammates, they get good coaching, and logistically we can get them to practice each day. It looks to us like there will be plenty of great competition in the GA, and plenty of flexibility to seek out other high quality games as well.

We are adjusting to the marketplace - we are keeping our kids where they are most happy. But some of us think the the marketplace would be addressing the needs/wants of its clientele better if the ECNL had admitted the top 3/4, or even all of, the DA teams. And there are ample reasons why that would have been a good move for the ECNL as a league, and beneficial for the current ECNL clubs, players and parents. ECNL would have a much higher percentage of the country’s best players and clubs had they done so. Can either league claim to be the only top level league in this country? Not honestly. Can ECNL claim to be the only top league in this area without FCV and Arlington, or the only top league nationally without Tophat, FC Dallas, Legends, Beach, NEFC, etc? To anyone being honest with themselves, the answer can only be no.

Do I think we have a right to dictate what the marketplace should do? Nope. But like anyone else with any other product, I’m going to express a little frustration when to me there was an obvious and easy way for the marketplace to offer us all a better product.

In the meantime, we are all, both leagues, slated to travel more at a time when we aren’t even sure we can travel at all. And we will be subjected to endless debates over which league is better when the obvious correct answer is, they both are.

Cut the crap. You want to stay with your team and still be considered the top league. That's all. Its about ego

You got it half right. We want to stay with our team, our coaches, our teammates and our club.

As for the other half, we want a high level of competition that allows our kid to play at the highest level. It would be nice if we could do that all together, not traveling past Loudoun and McLean to get to a comparable opponent further away. Just like you could be playing us instead of traveling to South Carolina for a comparable opponent.

Do we need to be in The Top League? Nope. Because there isn’t only one. There wasn’t only one when our kid started in the DA, and there isn’t only one now. An average team in a higher league should be able to dominate in a lower league. I have zero doubt that an average ECNL team would not dominate in the GA, and an average GA team would not dominate in the ECNL. They are both great leagues with great clubs, that also have some clubs that are a step below that, and some that are quite a bit below that still.

The GA is not a great league. They aren't even a league. They are a tier in an existing league called DPL. The DPL is a third tier league.

You may want to check in on the NJ board to see how the view GAL.

GA isn’t even a league, and yet it’s enough of a league that here you are, on the GA thread, making sure that everyone knows that ECNL is the only top level league. Okay, got it.

Anyone who looks at a list of the GA teams and says it isn’t a great league, please. There are plenty of teams that will be in that league that would be contenders in the ECNL at a minimum. And there are plenty of teams in the ECNL that would struggle in the GA, just as they do in the ECNL.

Both leagues have great teams, both leagues have teams that struggle to keep up, and both leagues have teams that are in between.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

GA isn’t even a league, and yet it’s enough of a league that here you are, on the GA thread, making sure that everyone knows that ECNL is the only top level league. Okay, got it.

Anyone who looks at a list of the GA teams and says it isn’t a great league, please. There are plenty of teams that will be in that league that would be contenders in the ECNL at a minimum. And there are plenty of teams in the ECNL that would struggle in the GA, just as they do in the ECNL.

Both leagues have great teams, both leagues have teams that struggle to keep up, and both leagues have teams that are in between.

Agreed. Time will tell though, but I would anticipate that it will be hard for GAL to continue to maintain the level of play it will have this first year. ECNL will continue to add clubs as they add showcases and/or overcome showcase limitations. There will be a greater movement of players from the younger ages to ECNL which will slowly reduce GAL to a second tier league like EDP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

GA isn’t even a league, and yet it’s enough of a league that here you are, on the GA thread, making sure that everyone knows that ECNL is the only top level league. Okay, got it.

Anyone who looks at a list of the GA teams and says it isn’t a great league, please. There are plenty of teams that will be in that league that would be contenders in the ECNL at a minimum. And there are plenty of teams in the ECNL that would struggle in the GA, just as they do in the ECNL.

Both leagues have great teams, both leagues have teams that struggle to keep up, and both leagues have teams that are in between.

Agreed. Time will tell though, but I would anticipate that it will be hard for GAL to continue to maintain the level of play it will have this first year. ECNL will continue to add clubs as they add showcases and/or overcome showcase limitations. There will be a greater movement of players from the younger ages to ECNL which will slowly reduce GAL to a second tier league like EDP.

That may be so, but that would depend on players wanting to leave clubs like FCV and Arlington. That may be the way it works out, maybe not. Probably depends on what kind of experience the teams have in GA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

GA isn’t even a league, and yet it’s enough of a league that here you are, on the GA thread, making sure that everyone knows that ECNL is the only top level league. Okay, got it.

Anyone who looks at a list of the GA teams and says it isn’t a great league, please. There are plenty of teams that will be in that league that would be contenders in the ECNL at a minimum. And there are plenty of teams in the ECNL that would struggle in the GA, just as they do in the ECNL.

Both leagues have great teams, both leagues have teams that struggle to keep up, and both leagues have teams that are in between.

Agreed. Time will tell though, but I would anticipate that it will be hard for GAL to continue to maintain the level of play it will have this first year. ECNL will continue to add clubs as they add showcases and/or overcome showcase limitations. There will be a greater movement of players from the younger ages to ECNL which will slowly reduce GAL to a second tier league like EDP.

In case you hadn’t heard already, ECNL is now full. They will not be adding more clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents of current DA clubs joining GA - let’s do a simple survey. Don’t post your age group or club. Just say if you plan to “stay” or “go” try ECNL.

Looks like Loudoun's TD already started that thread. Search is your friend.

I think it’s fantastic to hear ECNL parents in this area talk about being elite. There are 3-4 good teams in this area out of more than 20 in ecnl. Across all age groups. Think about this. Penn Fusion was terrible as part of the DA but switch to ECNL and now voila they’re awesome. VDA bottom of GDA standings and now middle of the pack in MA ecnl and they’re awesome. Same players same coaches but in ecnl everyone is awesome.

All these local ecnl teams couldn’t finish in top half of their division last year but now with NC teams they will? Come on. The players on these local ecnl rosters did not get better because the GDA folded. Development and talent do not work that way. The GA teams that stay together will remain at the level hey were before just like the ecnl teams. And according to Local ecnl parents, their rosters wouldn’t be taken over by GDA players so I guess middle to bottom of division is the ceiling for these teams going forward.

Ignorance is incredible.

Try breathing while you type. I think the lack of oxygen has you posting things that don't make sense.

So PENN was no good? Lol didn’t they beat FCV04 by 3-0. So strange! Your narrative is deafening just keep on telling people that FCV is God and every other player and club in the DMV is S*** someone is bound to believe you if you keep on saying it enough. When soccer starts why doesn’t the GAL go ahead and scrimmage the local ECNL clubs? I am sure my DD club would be all for that. Put your money where your mouth is.

I agree with the sentiment of the PP but the Penn Fusion take is a bit to far.

The comment was intended to mean that ECNLers thought Penn Fusion was terrible until they made it to ECNL.