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How about: Everyone should have an equal opportunity to go to college? Or Everyone should have an equal opportunity to attend a good high school Are some people advocating that schools push kids into low paying jobs, dead end careers at a young age? Can't we let them have an equal opportunity and then decide themselves? |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/12/30/no-blondes-allowed-years-after-controversial-experiment-students-say-it-had-big-impact/
Maryland did this before but with blondes |
It would likely hurt Blair since it's average SAT score is about 50+ points higher for the largest cohort common to it and any W and even without the 35 magnet kids in that cohort it's around 30 points higher. The point is it's a diverse school but anyone who wants to do well there is already doing well. Also, it isn't a school with highly concentrated poverty since its FARMS rate is comparable to that of the county. |
You’re delusional if you think Blair has a higher SAT score average than Whitman. |
Here's a recent report comparing moco high-school SAT averages by cohort. Comparing the largest cohort common to these schools we can see how well they actually stack up. Here's a shortlist from the county's report Blair 1326. Walter Johnson 1275 Wooton 1262 Poolesville 1259 Churchill 1257 https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf |
Looking at page 8 I see that Whitman's average appears to be 1299 which is only a bit lower than Blair's. |
Oh, so “cohort” now means race? Why are you comparing based on race? |
BCC is also very high. But Einstein, Northwood and Kennedy (ie the rest of the DCC) look like schools to avoid. |
It's all the county provides which can proxy SES. |
This isn’t true. For starters, they provide FARMS average SAT, which shows how well low SES students do at each school. At Blair, FARMS students average 1019. Based on the number of Farms and non-FARMS students who took the SAT and the average school-wide score of 1142, using algebra, that means the average non-FARMS SAT score was 1204. At BCC the average non-FARMS was 1286. You can’t calculate the non-FARMS SAT score for Churchill or Whitman because there are not enough FARMS students, but I would expect them to be similar to BCC. This suggests that BCC (and likely W-schools) students tend to score higher than Blair students - at both the high AND low socioeconomic levels. I wonder if a significant number of the white students at Blair are in the magnet program - that could really skew the average. |
This appears be the case. Based on this Washington Post article, it appears about 308 of the magnet students are white, or an average of 77 per grade: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/maryland-school-district-examines-racial-disparities-in-its-gifted-programs/2016/03/21/1caacdf6-eb88-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html With 160 total white students in the classes of 2017, this means close to half of the white student body at Blair were magnet students. This most likely explains the slightly higher average white student SAT score as compared to the Ws/BCC. |
Now I understand what you’re talking about with Cohort, I can safely say you are wrong. As detailed on my post above, there are actually about 77 white students in the Blair magnet program (not 30), making up about half of the total white students at Blair. This likely explains the higher white SAT score versus Whitman/Churchill/BCC, especially when you see that the FARMS and non-FARMS averages are both lower at Blair than BCC. |
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You’re correct many magnet students are in bounds and the program is roughly 58% Asian. |
There are 2 magnets at Blair - together, there are about 75 white students per grade. It doesn’t matter whether white magnet students are in bounds or out of bounds, mathematically. If you have 30 white magnet students with an SAT score average of 1518 (not sure if this is true - just assuming based on the post above) and the total SAT score average of the 150 white students is 1330, then the average SAT of the non-magnet white students is 1281, or lower than the white SAT averages at BCC and Whitman. That’s just the math. And this ignores the fact that there’s a second magnet program at Blair with another 50 white students (communication arts). Given that this is another academic magnet, my guess is that these magnet students also have SAT scores higher than their non-magnet peers. So the non-magnet white students likely have an ever lower SAT score average than 1281. For the record, I don’t really care. But I get annoyed when, to suit a political agenda, people pull claims out of their ass about non-magnet white students at Blair having SAT scores above the average Whitman white student when the publicly available data evidences the exact opposite of this bogus claim. |