Felicity Huffman sentencing today

[Anonymous]

While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

If this scandal has shown one thing is that many of you have the kind of morals that would make the devil blush. You'd never do it but you empathize with her blah blah blah

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself . Reese hasnt a bit movie in forever ,she survives because unlike huffmann she seem to have somewhat of a solid fan base in the south. Huffmann rings no bell amongst critical demogrpahics like African Americans and Latinos who are expected to be the driver of population growth tomorrow.Yeah picture a 30 something AA woman eagerly wanting to see huffmann, she was a virtue signaling liberal , therefore a no-go for the Dixie crowd. Stick a fork in it.

IMDB disagrees with you.

She did "Sing" in 2016. "Home Again" in 2017. "A Wrinkle in Time" in 2018. All of which made money (and Sing made a ton of money). She's currently filming "Sing 2" (2021) and in pre-production for "Legally Blonde 3" (2020). Her star may have dimmed briefly, but she's not black-listed and is still working quite a lot and in some big box office draws.

Agreed.

And not sure why someone thinks the AA demographics is going to be the driver of tomorrow's population growth either. It's pretty constant as a share of US population since the 1970s. IT's the Latino population that has grown.

And how many Latinos give a rat's ass ? How many of those movies were blockbusters ??? Keep talking

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

If this scandal has shown one thing is that many of you have the kind of morals that would make the devil blush. You'd never do it but you empathize with her blah blah blah

Just because I empathize doesn't mean I don't think she deserves a harsh punishment. As a mother with a kid who struggles, I understand the desperation (or the feeling of it... when you see your kid struggling). My daughter has beat herself up so much about "not being as smart as XX", getting frustrated because it takes her longer to get it, etc... Cheating won't fix that. Newsflash... I can empathize and still want her face very harsh consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

If this scandal has shown one thing is that many of you have the kind of morals that would make the devil blush. You'd never do it but you empathize with her blah blah blah

Just because I empathize doesn't mean I don't think she deserves a harsh punishment. As a mother with a kid who struggles, I understand the desperation (or the feeling of it... when you see your kid struggling). My daughter has beat herself up so much about "not being as smart as XX", getting frustrated because it takes her longer to get it, etc... Cheating won't fix that. Newsflash... I can empathize and still want her face very harsh consequences.

Herein lies the problem (s). For one,motherhood isn't mandatory,therefore you could've saved yourself the unsustainable anxiety by not having kids . Two, your kid is only struggling because you CHOOSE to live life in constant comparison to others . Why the F is your kid comparing herself to others ? At what age ? ( Not that there should be an age ) . If you knew how to be a parent , this is where you would have stepped in to simply tell her that she doesn't owe any accomplishment, that she's entitled to find whatever path suits her in life and that she should be focused on her and what makes her happy and not the constant comparison and toxic competitiveness that isn't by any measure healthy .

I'm sorry , though not surprising , your comments prove that it is YOU parents who poison your own kids lives for your vanity,egos and greed . Yeah I can see why you empathize with huffmann

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself . Reese hasnt a bit movie in forever ,she survives because unlike huffmann she seem to have somewhat of a solid fan base in the south. Huffmann rings no bell amongst critical demogrpahics like African Americans and Latinos who are expected to be the driver of population growth tomorrow.Yeah picture a 30 something AA woman eagerly wanting to see huffmann, she was a virtue signaling liberal , therefore a no-go for the Dixie crowd. Stick a fork in it.

IMDB disagrees with you.

She did "Sing" in 2016. "Home Again" in 2017. "A Wrinkle in Time" in 2018. All of which made money (and Sing made a ton of money). She's currently filming "Sing 2" (2021) and in pre-production for "Legally Blonde 3" (2020). Her star may have dimmed briefly, but she's not black-listed and is still working quite a lot and in some big box office draws.

Agreed.

And not sure why someone thinks the AA demographics is going to be the driver of tomorrow's population growth either. It's pretty constant as a share of US population since the 1970s. IT's the Latino population that has grown.

And how many Latinos give a rat's ass ? How many of those movies were blockbusters ??? Keep talking

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Depends on how you define blockbuster. Sing is probably the only one that is, as it grossed $635M on a budget of $75M.

Home Again wasn't a blockbuster, but it made a good profit ($37M gross on a budget of $12M). A Wrinkle in Time was a bit of a cult classic, because of the genre, but it still made $136M, albeit on a budget of $100K.

Sing 2 and Legally Blonde 3 are sequels to big profit margin franchises. They are likely to make a lot of money. Legally Blonde made $141M on an $18M budget and still made $125M on a budget of $45M, good numbers for a sequel. Both of these sequels should make a lot of money and Sing 2 will probably be another blockbuster.

But the point is that people are still paying a lot of money to see her and her popularity is such that she is still an A-lister star. She has an Oscar and she is one of the highest paid actresses in Hollywood. She has taken any hit from the incident mentioned above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself . Reese hasnt a bit movie in forever ,she survives because unlike huffmann she seem to have somewhat of a solid fan base in the south. Huffmann rings no bell amongst critical demogrpahics like African Americans and Latinos who are expected to be the driver of population growth tomorrow.Yeah picture a 30 something AA woman eagerly wanting to see huffmann, she was a virtue signaling liberal , therefore a no-go for the Dixie crowd. Stick a fork in it.

IMDB disagrees with you.

She did "Sing" in 2016. "Home Again" in 2017. "A Wrinkle in Time" in 2018. All of which made money (and Sing made a ton of money). She's currently filming "Sing 2" (2021) and in pre-production for "Legally Blonde 3" (2020). Her star may have dimmed briefly, but she's not black-listed and is still working quite a lot and in some big box office draws.

Agreed.

And not sure why someone thinks the AA demographics is going to be the driver of tomorrow's population growth either. It's pretty constant as a share of US population since the 1970s. IT's the Latino population that has grown.

And how many Latinos give a rat's ass ? How many of those movies were blockbusters ??? Keep talking

'

Depends on how you define blockbuster. Sing is probably the only one that is, as it grossed $635M on a budget of $75M.

Home Again wasn't a blockbuster, but it made a good profit ($37M gross on a budget of $12M). A Wrinkle in Time was a bit of a cult classic, because of the genre, but it still made $136M, albeit on a budget of $100K.

Sing 2 and Legally Blonde 3 are sequels to big profit margin franchises. They are likely to make a lot of money. Legally Blonde made $141M on an $18M budget and still made $125M on a budget of $45M, good numbers for a sequel. Both of these sequels should make a lot of money and Sing 2 will probably be another blockbuster.

But the point is that people are still paying a lot of money to see her and her popularity is such that she is still an A-lister star. She has an Oscar and she is one of the highest paid actresses in Hollywood. She has taken any hit from the incident mentioned above.

IDK how this conversation got so Reese focused but that's a flat-out lie.

Sing was an animated special with an all-star cast. Reese was hardly a draw, I can't even remember which animal she was. Did she sing at least?

Legally Blonde 3 hasn't released yet.

Wrinkle in Time was a flop - especially with the supposed caliber of women leading the production which is why there's no sequel.

Reese is a public drunk and an embarrassment.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6687891/Reese-Witherspoon-Big-Little-Lies-star-Laura-Dern-enjoy-Jennifer-Anistons-50th-birthday-bash.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself . Reese hasnt a bit movie in forever ,she survives because unlike huffmann she seem to have somewhat of a solid fan base in the south. Huffmann rings no bell amongst critical demogrpahics like African Americans and Latinos who are expected to be the driver of population growth tomorrow.Yeah picture a 30 something AA woman eagerly wanting to see huffmann, she was a virtue signaling liberal , therefore a no-go for the Dixie crowd. Stick a fork in it.

IMDB disagrees with you.

She did "Sing" in 2016. "Home Again" in 2017. "A Wrinkle in Time" in 2018. All of which made money (and Sing made a ton of money). She's currently filming "Sing 2" (2021) and in pre-production for "Legally Blonde 3" (2020). Her star may have dimmed briefly, but she's not black-listed and is still working quite a lot and in some big box office draws.

Agreed.

And not sure why someone thinks the AA demographics is going to be the driver of tomorrow's population growth either. It's pretty constant as a share of US population since the 1970s. IT's the Latino population that has grown.

And how many Latinos give a rat's ass ? How many of those movies were blockbusters ??? Keep talking

'

Depends on how you define blockbuster. Sing is probably the only one that is, as it grossed $635M on a budget of $75M.

Home Again wasn't a blockbuster, but it made a good profit ($37M gross on a budget of $12M). A Wrinkle in Time was a bit of a cult classic, because of the genre, but it still made $136M, albeit on a budget of $100K.

Sing 2 and Legally Blonde 3 are sequels to big profit margin franchises. They are likely to make a lot of money. Legally Blonde made $141M on an $18M budget and still made $125M on a budget of $45M, good numbers for a sequel. Both of these sequels should make a lot of money and Sing 2 will probably be another blockbuster.

But the point is that people are still paying a lot of money to see her and her popularity is such that she is still an A-lister star. She has an Oscar and she is one of the highest paid actresses in Hollywood. She has taken any hit from the incident mentioned above.

IDK how this conversation got so Reese focused but that's a flat-out lie.

Sing was an animated special with an all-star cast. Reese was hardly a draw, I can't even remember which animal she was. Did she sing at least?

Legally Blonde 3 hasn't released yet.

Wrinkle in Time was a flop - especially with the supposed caliber of women leading the production which is why there's no sequel.

Reese is a public drunk and an embarrassment.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6687891/Reese-Witherspoon-Big-Little-Lies-star-Laura-Dern-enjoy-Jennifer-Anistons-50th-birthday-bash.html

You say people aren't paying lots of money, but the numbers say otherwise. She was the 5th highest paid actress for 2018 at $16.5M. In 2019-2020 she will likely move up the list as based on current projects alone she is estimated to earn about $30M. In 2018, Scarlett Johansson was the only actress paid over $30M. Angelina Jolie at #2 earned $28M.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/reese-witherspoon-how-much-is-the-big-little-lies-and-wild-star-worth.html/
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/life/movies/2018/08/16/forbes-10-top-paid-actresses-2018/1014151002/

So, embarassing or not, she's still earning a ton of money. Whether she was a draw or not, she was paid like she was a draw. And in Sing, she was the singing pig (the mother pig). She sang several songs as that character. And she sang in the role in which she won the Oscar, June Carter Cash in Walk the Line.

[Anonymous]

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Herein lies the problem (s). For one,motherhood isn't mandatory,therefore you could've saved yourself the unsustainable anxiety by not having kids . Two, your kid is only struggling because you CHOOSE to live life in constant comparison to others . Why the F is your kid comparing herself to others ? At what age ? ( Not that there should be an age ) . If you knew how to be a parent , this is where you would have stepped in to simply tell her that she doesn't owe any accomplishment, that she's entitled to find whatever path suits her in life and that she should be focused on her and what makes her happy and not the constant comparison and toxic competitiveness that isn't by any measure healthy .

I'm sorry , though not surprising , your comments prove that it is YOU parents who poison your own kids lives for your vanity,egos and greed . Yeah I can see why you empathize with huffmann

You seem far more disturbed than the woman who said she understands the desperation of a parent.
The appropriate response, btw, is that while we all understand those feelings of worry, we hope that we have raised our children to ... blah blah blah (as you would say...what a wordsmith you are!)
Honestly, I'm concerned that there are people around with so much anger. Only people who are filled with "toxic competitiveness" carry that much anger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself . Reese hasnt a bit movie in forever ,she survives because unlike huffmann she seem to have somewhat of a solid fan base in the south. Huffmann rings no bell amongst critical demogrpahics like African Americans and Latinos who are expected to be the driver of population growth tomorrow.Yeah picture a 30 something AA woman eagerly wanting to see huffmann, she was a virtue signaling liberal , therefore a no-go for the Dixie crowd. Stick a fork in it.

IMDB disagrees with you.

She did "Sing" in 2016. "Home Again" in 2017. "A Wrinkle in Time" in 2018. All of which made money (and Sing made a ton of money). She's currently filming "Sing 2" (2021) and in pre-production for "Legally Blonde 3" (2020). Her star may have dimmed briefly, but she's not black-listed and is still working quite a lot and in some big box office draws.

Agreed.

And not sure why someone thinks the AA demographics is going to be the driver of tomorrow's population growth either. It's pretty constant as a share of US population since the 1970s. IT's the Latino population that has grown.

And how many Latinos give a rat's ass ? How many of those movies were blockbusters ??? Keep talking

'

Depends on how you define blockbuster. Sing is probably the only one that is, as it grossed $635M on a budget of $75M.

Home Again wasn't a blockbuster, but it made a good profit ($37M gross on a budget of $12M). A Wrinkle in Time was a bit of a cult classic, because of the genre, but it still made $136M, albeit on a budget of $100K.

Sing 2 and Legally Blonde 3 are sequels to big profit margin franchises. They are likely to make a lot of money. Legally Blonde made $141M on an $18M budget and still made $125M on a budget of $45M, good numbers for a sequel. Both of these sequels should make a lot of money and Sing 2 will probably be another blockbuster.

But the point is that people are still paying a lot of money to see her and her popularity is such that she is still an A-lister star. She has an Oscar and she is one of the highest paid actresses in Hollywood. She has taken any hit from the incident mentioned above.

IDK how this conversation got so Reese focused but that's a flat-out lie.

Sing was an animated special with an all-star cast. Reese was hardly a draw, I can't even remember which animal she was. Did she sing at least?

Legally Blonde 3 hasn't released yet.

Wrinkle in Time was a flop - especially with the supposed caliber of women leading the production which is why there's no sequel.

Reese is a public drunk and an embarrassment.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6687891/Reese-Witherspoon-Big-Little-Lies-star-Laura-Dern-enjoy-Jennifer-Anistons-50th-birthday-bash.html

* whispering* shhh....... don't come up with facts here, the alternate reality crowd who thought it was no big deal for a woman to try to buy her intellectually deficient daughter's way to college will lash out at you.

[Anonymous]

Wow. As someone FROM Dixieland, I can assure you most people love Reese and are not bothered by her arrest SO many years ago. She gets plenty of work. Also, I think the picture you posted says more about the dangers of heels than her drinking.
Some of you people kill me, preaching about morals when you think nothing of throwing out your mom or mother in law's childhood doll, tell your mom she can't visit, cut off people for the slightest provocation. Eyeopening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

Perhaps you should just accept that your child isn’t as bright as you desperately wish she was and that she will end up at a college where she belongs and will be happy. But you are one of the drives of disappointed parents that blame ”learning disabilities” and throw money at the supposed problem because they can’t abide the thought of their child going to some third rate college.....vapid and pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

Perhaps you should just accept that your child isn’t as bright as you desperately wish she was and that she will end up at a college where she belongs and will be happy. But you are one of the drives of disappointed parents that blame ”learning disabilities” and throw money at the supposed problem because they can’t abide the thought of their child going to some third rate college.....vapid and pathetic.

The troll is back

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Prosecutors recommend one month in jail, a year of probation, and a $20,000 fine. (For a $15,000 SAT scam).

Huffman's lawyers want no jail time, $20,000 fine, and some probation.

What do you she'll get? I'm thinking 5 days in jail with it really being 2 days and the full fine.

So penalty seems appropriate
2 weeks jail, long probation, many hours of community service and hefty fine.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/felicity-huffman-sentencing-college-scandal/index.html

However, why is all the blame laid at the mothers’ feet? Why are no fathers and men who profit from these pervasive elite college edge scams facing public condemnation?

In stead of demonizing a few misguided mothers who misused their privileges to give their children advantages in a crazy system, why are we not discussing the insane pressures faced by many young people to be even able to compete for spots in top colleges? That students feel compelled to take over a dozen college level courses in high school? The slave labor internships that many need to get an edge for entry level positions? The trillion dollar student debt industry? That Betsy De Vos just made it even harder for defrauded students swindled by sub standard places such as Trump University to get refunded tuition dollars? That higher education is unaffordable for so many, and it is so hard for first generation college students to fit in to preppy college scenes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Prosecutors recommend one month in jail, a year of probation, and a $20,000 fine. (For a $15,000 SAT scam).

Huffman's lawyers want no jail time, $20,000 fine, and some probation.

What do you she'll get? I'm thinking 5 days in jail with it really being 2 days and the full fine.

So penalty seems appropriate
2 weeks jail, long probation, many hours of community service and hefty fine.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/felicity-huffman-sentencing-college-scandal/index.html

However, why is all the blame laid at the mothers’ feet? Why are no fathers and men who profit from these pervasive elite college edge scams facing public condemnation?

In stead of demonizing a few misguided mothers who misused their privileges to give their children advantages in a crazy system, why are we not discussing the insane pressures faced by many young people to be even able to compete for spots in top colleges? That students feel compelled to take over a dozen college level courses in high school? The slave labor internships that many need to get an edge for entry level positions? The trillion dollar student debt industry? That Betsy De Vos just made it even harder for defrauded students swindled by sub standard places such as Trump University to get refunded tuition dollars? That higher education is unaffordable for so many, and it is so hard for first generation college students to fit in to preppy college scenes?

If the husbands were involved in the fraud, I would think that prosecutors would have gone after them too. If you look at the list of people charged, there were plenty that were men: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/03/12/college-admissions-scam-lori-loughlin-and-list-who-involved/3145854002/
I didn't count, but it seems to me that there were more men in the list than women.

I am guessing people are talking about Felcity Huffman here as opposed to other people because she is one of the first celebrities sentenced.

As for the rest of your questions - I don't disagree with a lot of your questions, but realize that there is a trillion dollar student debt industry because the government (via taxpaper money) keeps subsiding college education. If you had 100 widgets to sell, and widget buyers keep getting more and more money or low cost loans from the government to buy the same 100 widgets, wouldn't you charge more money?