Felicity Huffman sentencing today

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Anonymous wrote:While I would never do what Felicity Huffman did, I do empathize with her. My DD also has some learning challenges and her performance on standardized tests is not good. She is bright. She works hard. I've hired really expensive tutors, language therapists... you name it.

I can understand wanting to boost her scores a little so she at least can compete with the other applicants. Again, it's not something that I would do but I get it. I'm always worried about her but she is doing just fine and she's happy. I know that there is a college for her.

If this scandal has shown one thing is that many of you have the kind of morals that would make the devil blush. You'd never do it but you empathize with her blah blah blah

People use the same reasoning to justify illegal immigration. I don't know how many people I've talked to who have told me "Well I would have done the same thing in their situation." Um, okay, but it doesn't make it right. Taking something that isn't yours is NEVER right.

I'm sure most people would steal a million dollars if it was something that they could get away with, and you can have all sorts of noble reasons behind it. There's nothing wrong with wanting the best for your child, wanting them to have a life where they can go to college or not have to worry about medical bills, have money for a wedding, a house, etc. There is, however, something very wrong if the way you go about it is by theft or fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:Prosecutors recommend one month in jail, a year of probation, and a $20,000 fine. (For a $15,000 SAT scam).

Huffman's lawyers want no jail time, $20,000 fine, and some probation.

What do you she'll get? I'm thinking 5 days in jail with it really being 2 days and the full fine.

So penalty seems appropriate
2 weeks jail, long probation, many hours of community service and hefty fine.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/felicity-huffman-sentencing-college-scandal/index.html

However, why is all the blame laid at the mothers’ feet? Why are no fathers and men who profit from these pervasive elite college edge scams facing public condemnation?

In stead of demonizing a few misguided mothers who misused their privileges to give their children advantages in a crazy system, why are we not discussing the insane pressures faced by many young people to be even able to compete for spots in top colleges? That students feel compelled to take over a dozen college level courses in high school? The slave labor internships that many need to get an edge for entry level positions? The trillion dollar student debt industry? That Betsy De Vos just made it even harder for defrauded students swindled by sub standard places such as Trump University to get refunded tuition dollars? That higher education is unaffordable for so many, and it is so hard for first generation college students to fit in to preppy college scenes?

If the husbands were involved in the fraud, I would think that prosecutors would have gone after them too. If you look at the list of people charged, there were plenty that were men: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/03/12/college-admissions-scam-lori-loughlin-and-list-who-involved/3145854002/
I didn't count, but it seems to me that there were more men in the list than women.

I am guessing people are talking about Felcity Huffman here as opposed to other people because she is one of the first celebrities sentenced.

As for the rest of your questions - I don't disagree with a lot of your questions, but realize that there is a trillion dollar student debt industry because the government (via taxpaper money) keeps subsiding college education. If you had 100 widgets to sell, and widget buyers keep getting more and more money or low cost loans from the government to buy the same 100 widgets, wouldn't you charge more money?

I agree government should stop subsidizing private for profit colleges and maybe even non profit colleges. However public universities remain bastions if research much needed for serving the public good and public universities also enroll far greater numbers of first generation students, military vets and minorities - all of which is needed to Combat inter generational cycles of poverty.

[Anonymous]

The judge is sentencing a new parent today for his role in the scam. Like Felicity he plead GUILTY but like Lori his bribe was in the hundreds of thousands - $440,000 to be exact.

"Prosecutors are recommending 13 months in prison, a $95,000 fine and restitution of $105,000 to Georgetown. His lawyers say he deserves probation and 2,000 hours of community service."

I'm guessing he gets at least six months in prison.



https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/father-faces-judgment-bribing-sons-georgetown-65871989

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prosecutors recommend one month in jail, a year of probation, and a $20,000 fine. (For a $15,000 SAT scam).

Huffman's lawyers want no jail time, $20,000 fine, and some probation.

What do you she'll get? I'm thinking 5 days in jail with it really being 2 days and the full fine.

So penalty seems appropriate
2 weeks jail, long probation, many hours of community service and hefty fine.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/felicity-huffman-sentencing-college-scandal/index.html

However, why is all the blame laid at the mothers’ feet? Why are no fathers and men who profit from these pervasive elite college edge scams facing public condemnation?

In stead of demonizing a few misguided mothers who misused their privileges to give their children advantages in a crazy system, why are we not discussing the insane pressures faced by many young people to be even able to compete for spots in top colleges? That students feel compelled to take over a dozen college level courses in high school? The slave labor internships that many need to get an edge for entry level positions? The trillion dollar student debt industry? That Betsy De Vos just made it even harder for defrauded students swindled by sub standard places such as Trump University to get refunded tuition dollars? That higher education is unaffordable for so many, and it is so hard for first generation college students to fit in to preppy college scenes?

If the husbands were involved in the fraud, I would think that prosecutors would have gone after them too. If you look at the list of people charged, there were plenty that were men: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/03/12/college-admissions-scam-lori-loughlin-and-list-who-involved/3145854002/
I didn't count, but it seems to me that there were more men in the list than women.

I am guessing people are talking about Felcity Huffman here as opposed to other people because she is one of the first celebrities sentenced.

As for the rest of your questions - I don't disagree with a lot of your questions, but realize that there is a trillion dollar student debt industry because the government (via taxpaper money) keeps subsiding college education. If you had 100 widgets to sell, and widget buyers keep getting more and more money or low cost loans from the government to buy the same 100 widgets, wouldn't you charge more money?

I agree government should stop subsidizing private for profit colleges and maybe even non profit colleges. However public universities remain bastions if research much needed for serving the public good and public universities also enroll far greater numbers of first generation students, military vets and minorities - all of which is needed to Combat inter generational cycles of poverty.

The trillions of dollars universities are getting largely go to salary inflation and let's call it "facility inflation" where universities are being turned into resorts, neither of which is necessary to educate people or produce top research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The judge is sentencing a new parent today for his role in the scam. Like Felicity he plead GUILTY but like Lori his bribe was in the hundreds of thousands - $440,000 to be exact.

"Prosecutors are recommending 13 months in prison, a $95,000 fine and restitution of $105,000 to Georgetown. His lawyers say he deserves probation and 2,000 hours of community service."

I'm guessing he gets at least six months in prison.



https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/father-faces-judgment-bribing-sons-georgetown-65871989

It's done -> Semprevivo getting 4 months prison, $100K fine, 2 years supervised release, 500 hours community service #collegeadmissionsscandal

Curious to see if pleading not guilty will have a more adverse effect on sentencing for people like Lori and her husband.

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The trillions of dollars universities are getting largely go to salary inflation and let's call it "facility inflation" where universities are being turned into resorts, neither of which is necessary to educate people or produce top research.

Resorts from the outside. Looking in, not so much. Toured a school last weekend. Beautiful gated grounds, city steps away. I kid you not, the dorm room shown (keep in mind this was the tour approved room and residence) was was like solitary confinement room for two. The poor girl who allowed her room to be shown was sitting on her riser bed. She couldn't even sit up straight without her head hitting ceiling. The hall was so narrow, a few bigger boned folks struggled. The kids on the tour were looking at each other in horror. Live in a cement cell for four years without breaking the law and paying 60k for the privilege? Pass

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Anonymous wrote:I predict Aunt Becky and Uncle Massimo will get 6 months in jail, $100K fine, 400 hours real community service....and a divorce during the process.

Divorce maybe - but it'll be more than 6 months.

A) Aunt Becky and Uncle Massimo plead not guilty (unlike Huffman)
B) Their financial crime is 33X greater than Huffman and they're on the hook for federal charges.
C) As for the fine - IDK, surely it'll be greater than the bribe which was $500K in the first place.

I think the only thing they can hope for is sentences served consecutively rather than concurrently which is what the Guidices did. However they were able to plead that they had young daughters at home who needed at least one parent with them. Both of Becky's daughters are legal adults.

The choke collar around Loughlin's neck is getting tighter-and-tighter by the day.

Parent #5, Agustin Huneeus, who plead guilty to a $300,000 bribe to get his daughter into USC (the same school Lori tried to get her brat into!) was just sentenced to a 5 month prison sentence with a $100,000 fine.

I'm thinking, crimes hold similar merits and bribery numbers, she'll get her year in prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict Aunt Becky and Uncle Massimo will get 6 months in jail, $100K fine, 400 hours real community service....and a divorce during the process.

Divorce maybe - but it'll be more than 6 months.

A) Aunt Becky and Uncle Massimo plead not guilty (unlike Huffman)
B) Their financial crime is 33X greater than Huffman and they're on the hook for federal charges.
C) As for the fine - IDK, surely it'll be greater than the bribe which was $500K in the first place.

I think the only thing they can hope for is sentences served consecutively rather than concurrently which is what the Guidices did. However they were able to plead that they had young daughters at home who needed at least one parent with them. Both of Becky's daughters are legal adults.

The choke collar around Loughlin's neck is getting tighter-and-tighter by the day.

Parent #5, Agustin Huneeus, who plead guilty to a $300,000 bribe to get his daughter into USC (the same school Lori tried to get her brat into!) was just sentenced to a 5 month prison sentence with a $100,000 fine.

I'm thinking, crimes hold similar merits and bribery numbers, she'll get her year in prison.

She didn't plead guilty though so no plea deal to work out. When is the first person who didn't plead guilty in court for trial?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict Aunt Becky and Uncle Massimo will get 6 months in jail, $100K fine, 400 hours real community service....and a divorce during the process.

Divorce maybe - but it'll be more than 6 months.

A) Aunt Becky and Uncle Massimo plead not guilty (unlike Huffman)
B) Their financial crime is 33X greater than Huffman and they're on the hook for federal charges.
C) As for the fine - IDK, surely it'll be greater than the bribe which was $500K in the first place.

I think the only thing they can hope for is sentences served consecutively rather than concurrently which is what the Guidices did. However they were able to plead that they had young daughters at home who needed at least one parent with them. Both of Becky's daughters are legal adults.

The choke collar around Loughlin's neck is getting tighter-and-tighter by the day.

Parent #5, Agustin Huneeus, who plead guilty to a $300,000 bribe to get his daughter into USC (the same school Lori tried to get her brat into!) was just sentenced to a 5 month prison sentence with a $100,000 fine.

I'm thinking, crimes hold similar merits and bribery numbers, she'll get her year in prison.

She didn't plead guilty though so no plea deal to work out. When is the first person who didn't plead guilty in court for trial?

Her not guilty plea is why I think she'll get a longer sentence than those who plead guilty for the same crime.

As for the date, not sure.

[Anonymous]

Please... the prosecution was talking so big when this all started. They were saying the parents were getting possible DECADES behind bars. They look like chumps now.

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Anonymous wrote:Please... the prosecution was talking so big when this all started. They were saying the parents were getting possible DECADES behind bars. They look like chumps now.

They did that to scare their defendants and it worked. 2/3rds immediately plead guilty.

Pretty sure they're reserving the pain for the ones making them go to trial.