Would you take Tufts, Emory, Wash U over UVA?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think private schools like Tufts and Emory have a networking advantage over the top state schools. I would think there’s probably more wealthy and well connected students at privates. I don’t think there’s much difference in academics, with the exception of a specialty one school or the other might have. Unless I could pay my kids private tuition just as easily as in-state tuition, I probably wouldn’t encourage my kid to go to the private school, but that’s because I don’t value getting ahead through connections.


Not really - the wealthy kids tend to keep to themselves. And it is not at college but high school where the tight knit connections at privates are made


Dumbest DCUM post of the day.


Says the non wealthy non private school person. Connections are made in the private HS. You see the same person every day for over 6 years in the small private school and parents mix and get to know each other at school functions and sports and volunteering together.
Anonymous
UVA is a regional school. I would take all those over UVA. Signed mom of a kid who got into UVA and went to ND. You can't beat the alumni networks of some of these schools. UVA is like going back to high school with older and more kids.
Anonymous
I'm an alum from Washington University. If my kid were in-state at UVA and got in, there's no way in hell that I would pay full ride to Washington University. I loved Washington University. It's a great place to spend 4 years. It's an excellent education. It's not worth the sticker price, though.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think private schools like Tufts and Emory have a networking advantage over the top state schools. I would think there’s probably more wealthy and well connected students at privates. I don’t think there’s much difference in academics, with the exception of a specialty one school or the other might have. Unless I could pay my kids private tuition just as easily as in-state tuition, I probably wouldn’t encourage my kid to go to the private school, but that’s because I don’t value getting ahead through connections.


Not really - the wealthy kids tend to keep to themselves. And it is not at college but high school where the tight knit connections at privates are made


Dumbest DCUM post of the day.


Says the non wealthy non private school person. Connections are made in the private HS. You see the same person every day for over 6 years in the small private school and parents mix and get to know each other at school functions and sports and volunteering together.


I went to private school. Was pretty poor. Most friends were rich. Looking forward to your nonsensical response.
Anonymous
I really don't think Tufts, Wash U, or Emory would have any advantage over UVA or William and Mary for law school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think private schools like Tufts and Emory have a networking advantage over the top state schools. I would think there’s probably more wealthy and well connected students at privates. I don’t think there’s much difference in academics, with the exception of a specialty one school or the other might have. Unless I could pay my kids private tuition just as easily as in-state tuition, I probably wouldn’t encourage my kid to go to the private school, but that’s because I don’t value getting ahead through connections.


Not really - the wealthy kids tend to keep to themselves. And it is not at college but high school where the tight knit connections at privates are made


Dumbest DCUM post of the day.


Says the non wealthy non private school person. Connections are made in the private HS. You see the same person every day for over 6 years in the small private school and parents mix and get to know each other at school functions and sports and volunteering together.


I went to private school. Was pretty poor. Most friends were rich. Looking forward to your nonsensical response.


That is what PP is pointing out - going to private colleges to get connections w the wealthy is not going to happen. They stick to their own group. Best time to do so is at Middle school and high school where kids know each other and parents too.
Anonymous
Well, I'm an Emory alum and had a good experience, but I would want to seriously examine the head of any person who does full pay there (especially taking out loans! OMG) over in-state UVA. Obviously exception for those for whom money is free flowing and not a concern, but it doesn't sound like that's the case here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Former BigLaw partner and law school recruiter here. There is no question that UVA and William & Mary both are highly regarded by top law schools. Both send many graduates to Yale, Harvard, Stanford, etc., year in and year out. I know this personally because I have interviewed at each of these law schools many times over the years. While I personally would not encourage anyone to go to law school - at least not in pursuit of BigLaw, which is a nightmare - if anyone were insisting on going I’d strongly advise going to one of these two schools over the rest on OP’s list and save your money for law school tuition. The last thing you want to do is graduate from law school with a mountain of debt and be forced into a position that you hate simply because you need the money. If I saw that once in BigLaw, I saw it 1000 times.

I know it annoys posters to no end, but UVA does have an elite reputation in many circles, and top ranked law schools is unquestionably one of them.


I think the equation looks like this in Virginia because UVa and William & Mary are such fine, historic schools, and because most of the parents here have household income over $150,000.

If a great student’s state flagship would be a football team with a university attached, paying more to go to a serious school might be worth it.

If a student comes from a middle-income family, chances are that, with aid, going to Wash. U. or Tufts would be cheaper than going to UVa out of state.

For a student from a low-income family, Wash. U. would be a lot cheaper. The school may be need aware, but the students who do get in get a lot of aid.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former BigLaw partner and law school recruiter here. There is no question that UVA and William & Mary both are highly regarded by top law schools. Both send many graduates to Yale, Harvard, Stanford, etc., year in and year out. I know this personally because I have interviewed at each of these law schools many times over the years. While I personally would not encourage anyone to go to law school - at least not in pursuit of BigLaw, which is a nightmare - if anyone were insisting on going I’d strongly advise going to one of these two schools over the rest on OP’s list and save your money for law school tuition. The last thing you want to do is graduate from law school with a mountain of debt and be forced into a position that you hate simply because you need the money. If I saw that once in BigLaw, I saw it 1000 times.

I know it annoys posters to no end, but UVA does have an elite reputation in many circles, and top ranked law schools is unquestionably one of them.


I think the equation looks like this in Virginia because UVa and William & Mary are such fine, historic schools, and because most of the parents here have household income over $150,000.

If a great student’s state flagship would be a football team with a university attached, paying more to go to a serious school might be worth it.

If a student comes from a middle-income family, chances are that, with aid, going to Wash. U. or Tufts would be cheaper than going to UVa out of state.

For a student from a low-income family, Wash. U. would be a lot cheaper. The school may be need aware, but the students who do get in get a lot of aid.





It is the same situation for upper-middle class people in the Bay Area or SoCal; the UC Berkeley/UCLA/UCSD combinations are just quite competative with the leading private universities that is doesn't make sense to go to OOS privates (unless for absolution HYMPS level) as a full-pay household. There are a few in-state choice (Univ Mich etc...) in a few states where the publics are too close to the elite privates to not be considered by full-pay parents.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is not that hard to get in, if you can get into the top 25. Not everyone wants a southern experience or the UVA social scene. It’s not a welcoming environment for many kids who have grown up in a multicultural environment and is extremely segregated. I don’t understand why the fact that something is cheap makes poster think everyone wants it. There is nothing wrong with Macy’s but the one at Tyson’s II closed. Why? People like Neiman’s and Saks more. Would it be cheaper to shop at Macy’s? Yes. But not enough people did. Some families like catholic colleges, LAC, Ivy+... not everyone poster that would not choose UVA is bitter. It’s unclear why so many make that assumption???



LOL You haven't kept up. The Virginia State Council of Higher Education reports that for admitted (not accepted, which are higher stats) students in fall 2018, the top 25% median had a 4.48 GPA, median 50% had a 4.38 and the bottom quarter of the class had a 4.16. The median ACT for top 25% was 34, median 50% was a 32 and bottom 25% is a 30. For the class of 2023, the average SAT is a 1480. http://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp


Really my kids went ivy! From top private schools it’s not that hard and from NOVA the top of the class gets in. Most area schools are sending multiple students. Should they take everyone? Like a community college?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised people think so highly of Tufts, must be a New England bias. Even NYU has a better reputation score on US news.


Oh I forgot UVA lovers hate NYU. The #1 college to apply to in the US for the last 5 years. It has a much lower acceptance rate than UVA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think private schools like Tufts and Emory have a networking advantage over the top state schools. I would think there’s probably more wealthy and well connected students at privates. I don’t think there’s much difference in academics, with the exception of a specialty one school or the other might have. Unless I could pay my kids private tuition just as easily as in-state tuition, I probably wouldn’t encourage my kid to go to the private school, but that’s because I don’t value getting ahead through connections.


Not really - the wealthy kids tend to keep to themselves. And it is not at college but high school where the tight knit connections at privates are made


Dumbest DCUM post of the day.


Says the non wealthy non private school person. Connections are made in the private HS. You see the same person every day for over 6 years in the small private school and parents mix and get to know each other at school functions and sports and volunteering together.
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Lol.....you have a very MC aspirational mindset.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UVA is a regional school. I would take all those over UVA. Signed mom of a kid who got into UVA and went to ND. You can't beat the alumni networks of some of these schools. UVA is like going back to high school with older and more kids.

UVA is known nationwide. More people apply from outside Virginia than in.
Anonymous
Yes, if money is not an issue, I would send my kids to any of these schools over UVA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think private schools like Tufts and Emory have a networking advantage over the top state schools. I would think there’s probably more wealthy and well connected students at privates. I don’t think there’s much difference in academics, with the exception of a specialty one school or the other might have. Unless I could pay my kids private tuition just as easily as in-state tuition, I probably wouldn’t encourage my kid to go to the private school, but that’s because I don’t value getting ahead through connections.


Not really - the wealthy kids tend to keep to themselves. And it is not at college but high school where the tight knit connections at privates are made


Dumbest DCUM post of the day.


Says the non wealthy non private school person. Connections are made in the private HS. You see the same person every day for over 6 years in the small private school and parents mix and get to know each other at school functions and sports and volunteering together.


I went to private school. Was pretty poor. Most friends were rich. Looking forward to your nonsensical response.


That is what PP is pointing out - going to private colleges to get connections w the wealthy is not going to happen. They stick to their own group. Best time to do so is at Middle school and high school where kids know each other and parents too.


The poster said the wealthy kids keep to themselves. Not in my experience. Many of these people are my “connections”. Not sure why you can’t grasp this.
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