MCPS Looking Into 'All-Gender' Bathrooms in Schools

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Anonymous wrote:Single use, no gender rooms would be a blessing from my perspective as a MS teacher in MCPS. I’ve taught directly across from both a boys’ room and a girls’ room over the years. Both sexes trash the group rooms and bullying occurs in both. I’d love a switch to 3-4 single occupancy, no gender rooms with a hand washing station outside. We traveled in Europe recently and many public spaces were set up this way.


This doesn't happen in any single European SCHOOL.


Nope, not true.

Spent my senior year in a school in a Western European nation and was utterly shocked when I saw the communal bathroom on my first day. It was one main bathroom off of the central gathering hall. It had a huge opening, like 12 feet wide, that opened onto the hall. Everyone went in, found a stall and used the communal sinks afterwards and then went back to gossip with everyone else in the hall before the bell rang. I could not believe it. It took me weeks to use it the first time and weeks afterwards to not feel embarrassed about it. But, by a couple of months in, it was old hat. No big deal. And, of course, it was never a big deal to anyone going to school there. I was the weird one for thinking it was. FWIW, it was a largish (for Europe), nonsectarian school that covered that country's last six years of education before university.


People in several Nordic countries go to coed naked saunas and all is good.

I'm not sure we can compare our country to theirs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a cisgendered woman, mother to cisgendered girls, and support unisex and mixed sex bathrooms.

I do not feel my rights, nor those of my daughters, are being abridged.

I hope that my daughters' classmates who are trans or gender nonconforming have a positive school experience, and if transitioning one or two bathrooms in the whole school to unisex helps that happen, then I'm all for it.


Good. But I don’t feel the same. And my daughters’ experience also matters.

I do not support co-ed bathrooms.

And i especially do not support spending money (that MCPS does not have) on this.
Anonymous
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So thousands of girls should give up there rights for a few? Let's be clear here. Just say it! Go ahead! Women and girls are second class citizens and should shut the hell up.about our needs! Just say it!!!!! Say what you really mean! Because if women don't start standing up for themselves and fast, we are on a ippery slope! Your hatred and disgust of women is palpable. And it is everywhere on this thread.


What rights are girls giving up here?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Conservatives want armed teachers in the bathrooms now?



JFC. MAGA trash is just too much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a cisgendered woman, mother to cisgendered girls, and support unisex and mixed sex bathrooms.

I do not feel my rights, nor those of my daughters, are being abridged.

I hope that my daughters' classmates who are trans or gender nonconforming have a positive school experience, and if transitioning one or two bathrooms in the whole school to unisex helps that happen, then I'm all for it.


Good. But I don’t feel the same. And my daughters’ experience also matters.

I do not support co-ed bathrooms.

And i especially do not support spending money (that MCPS does not have) on this.


+1.

I know my DD would feel her rights severely compromised.

Why?

Well, she told us she would never use the bathroom again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So thousands of girls should give up there rights for a few? Let's be clear here. Just say it! Go ahead! Women and girls are second class citizens and should shut the hell up.about our needs! Just say it!!!!! Say what you really mean! Because if women don't start standing up for themselves and fast, we are on a ippery slope! Your hatred and disgust of women is palpable. And it is everywhere on this thread.


What rights are girls giving up here?



Privacy and safety.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So thousands of girls should give up there rights for a few? Let's be clear here. Just say it! Go ahead! Women and girls are second class citizens and should shut the hell up.about our needs! Just say it!!!!! Say what you really mean! Because if women don't start standing up for themselves and fast, we are on a ippery slope! Your hatred and disgust of women is palpable. And it is everywhere on this thread.


What rights are girls giving up here?


Privacy and safety.


Safety?!

I'm not sure that people have a right to single-gender sinks.
Anonymous
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+1 million. I cannot believe people are even thinking about this idea. How many times did I (and my daughter, I'm sure) ask a fellow woman in the common restroom area for a pad or tampon? Ask the woman in the stall next store for extra toilet paper? Stand in front of the sink trying to get blood out of pants so we could return to class? This happens all. the. time. Especially in middle and high school. Single stalls, even if the door is floor to ceiling, is not enough. I cannot believe there is even one woman who supports this idea.


She can still go to one of the many single sex bathrooms that will still exist in the school.

Also, rinsing blood out in the sink is gross. I'd recommend that be done in the nurse's office where she can ask for a Lysol wipe to clean it up afterwards.


So the girl should go to the nurse office to use the bathroom but they trans kid can't. Got it! Girls and women, you are second class citizens. Your rights matter less than a small minority. The liberal left needs you to fall in line and forgo your rights to bathroom safety and privacy for the greater good of a handful of people.

How is it that I can respect the Trans right to use our bathroom if they need to for privacy and safety but their community can't respect the girl's right to do the same and let us have bathrooms designated by sex not gender? Why? I support their decisions, why can't they support my cisgender daughter and other cisgender girls in same?


So the trans girl has to go to the nurse's office (or the boys' bathroom) but the cis girl can't go to the nurse's office...

Also, "it doesn't affect a lot of people" is an inadequate argument. Most people don't use wheelchairs. Facilities should still be accessible to people who do use wheelchairs.


So thousands of girls should give up there rights for a few? Let's be clear here. Just say it! Go ahead! Women and girls are second class citizens and should shut the hell up.about our needs! Just say it!!!!! Say what you really mean! Because if women don't start standing up for themselves and fast, we are on a ippery slope! Your hatred and disgust of women is palpable. And it is everywhere on this thread.


Agree completely
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Are you really that stupid? Maybe you are a man so I'll break it down for you
I come from a long line of heavy bleeders. We go through multiple pads tampons in just one day. Sometimes we can just sit on a toilet while clots and blood gushes out. We are genetically built this way. Many times we bleed through our clothes and need a safe private sink to pull down our pants and try to clean up the blood so it is not so obvious when we walk out of the bathroom.

Where are my daighters rights as a new woman to be able to learn to care for herself? Where are my daughter's rights to do the same at her school in a safe environment? How is she going to do this surrounded by boys? She won't. She will be anxious scared and mortified. But to all of you, the girls rights don't matter. We have to spend millions and pander to a handful of trans kids who are welcome to use our bathroom any time they need it.


Your example is a very specific health problem that affects a very small amount of girls. I'm 40 years old and what you're describing has never happened to me. If your daughter has very heavy periods that require special maintenance, she can go use the private bathroom in the nurse's office.

Essentially, you're advocating that your daughter's very specific need should be pandered to while other kids with a specific need shouldn't be accommodated.


What a hypocrite you are! Isn't the trans condtion and it's "very specific need" and it's need for accommodation (and pandering) what is being discussed here? Good enough for them but not for us?

I have yearly gynecological visit and have been assured for decades by many doctors that there is nothing wrong with me, that I am on the heavy normal.end of bleeders. I have never had a girlfriend and I am a girl with a tons of friends who has not bled through. It h happens all the time. Maybe you are a super light bleeder but you are in the minority of women if you have never had a leak. But whatever makes you feel better about turning against young inexperienced menstruating girls, Betty. Hope your daughter bleds through and you can tell her what a "problem" she is. Sounds like you need some experience so you can have some empathy for the thousands of young girls who will be ostracized.


+1

The PP is a complete hypocrite.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
+1 million. I cannot believe people are even thinking about this idea. How many times did I (and my daughter, I'm sure) ask a fellow woman in the common restroom area for a pad or tampon? Ask the woman in the stall next store for extra toilet paper? Stand in front of the sink trying to get blood out of pants so we could return to class? This happens all. the. time. Especially in middle and high school. Single stalls, even if the door is floor to ceiling, is not enough. I cannot believe there is even one woman who supports this idea.


She can still go to one of the many single sex bathrooms that will still exist in the school.

Also, rinsing blood out in the sink is gross. I'd recommend that be done in the nurse's office where she can ask for a Lysol wipe to clean it up afterwards.


So the girl should go to the nurse office to use the bathroom but they trans kid can't. Got it! Girls and women, you are second class citizens. Your rights matter less than a small minority. The liberal left needs you to fall in line and forgo your rights to bathroom safety and privacy for the greater good of a handful of people.

How is it that I can respect the Trans right to use our bathroom if they need to for privacy and safety but their community can't respect the girl's right to do the same and let us have bathrooms designated by sex not gender? Why? I support their decisions, why can't they support my cisgender daughter and other cisgender girls in same?


So the trans girl has to go to the nurse's office (or the boys' bathroom) but the cis girl can't go to the nurse's office...

Also, "it doesn't affect a lot of people" is an inadequate argument. Most people don't use wheelchairs. Facilities should still be accessible to people who do use wheelchairs.


So thousands of girls should give up there rights for a few? Let's be clear here. Just say it! Go ahead! Women and girls are second class citizens and should shut the hell up.about our needs! Just say it!!!!! Say what you really mean! Because if women don't start standing up for themselves and fast, we are on a ippery slope! Your hatred and disgust of women is palpable. And it is everywhere on this thread.


Agree completely


+2.

Ideological zealots couldn't care less about the vast majority of girls and women.

It's all about virtue signalling and the latest SJW crusade.
Anonymous
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BS. How us this fair to young menstruating girls already embarrassed of their changing bodies? How is exposing them to boys the right thing to do? There are thousands more girls than trans kids but you don't care about trampling on the girl's rights! Women, wake up!!!!


How would this expose girls to boys? Because they'd be using the same sink?


Are you really that stupid? Maybe you are a man so I'll break it down for you
I come from a long line of heavy bleeders. We go through multiple pads tampons in just one day. Sometimes we can just sit on a toilet while clots and blood gushes out. We are genetically built this way. Many times we bleed through our clothes and need a safe private sink to pull down our pants and try to clean up the blood so it is not so obvious when we walk out of the bathroom.

Where are my daighters rights as a new woman to be able to learn to care for herself? Where are my daughter's rights to do the same at her school in a safe environment? How is she going to do this surrounded by boys? She won't. She will be anxious scared and mortified. But to all of you, the girls rights don't matter. We have to spend millions and pander to a handful of trans kids who are welcome to use our bathroom any time they need it.


+1.

I hope this is a wake-up call to women and to parents of girls.



Omg. Who are you hysterical cows?!

Hopefully your daughters don’t procreate. No need to keep this cesspool of genetic defects.



1) calling women "cow

2) calling women "hysertical"

3) shaming our daughters, their ability to procreate and their Gene's

All because we have an opinion on our rights and our bodies! As women! The true hatred on this thread coming out for all to see! How dare us women open our mouth and have an opinion!

Finally an honest sexist misonginst who openly showcases his/her/their (pick your pronoun) hatred of women! Cause that is what is going on here. Women are being shut down. And if you don't comply with the trans liberal agenda you get called names and your daughter too.
Anonymous
All-gender public restrooms with single-user toilet rooms shame women's genes and women's ability to procreate? Now I've heard everything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a cisgendered woman, mother to cisgendered girls, and support unisex and mixed sex bathrooms.

I do not feel my rights, nor those of my daughters, are being abridged.

I hope that my daughters' classmates who are trans or gender nonconforming have a positive school experience, and if transitioning one or two bathrooms in the whole school to unisex helps that happen, then I'm all for it.


Good. But I don’t feel the same. And my daughters’ experience also matters.

I do not support co-ed bathrooms.

And i especially do not support spending money (that MCPS does not have) on this.


+1.

I know my DD would feel her rights severely compromised.

Why?

Well, she told us she would never use the bathroom again.



Sounds like she's prone to over-reacting. Wonder where she has learned that behavior.

Nobody cares if she has her period or if she bleeds on her pants. It's only a big deal if she makes it a big deal.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

BS. How us this fair to young menstruating girls already embarrassed of their changing bodies? How is exposing them to boys the right thing to do? There are thousands more girls than trans kids but you don't care about trampling on the girl's rights! Women, wake up!!!!


How would this expose girls to boys? Because they'd be using the same sink?


Are you really that stupid? Maybe you are a man so I'll break it down for you
I come from a long line of heavy bleeders. We go through multiple pads tampons in just one day. Sometimes we can just sit on a toilet while clots and blood gushes out. We are genetically built this way. Many times we bleed through our clothes and need a safe private sink to pull down our pants and try to clean up the blood so it is not so obvious when we walk out of the bathroom.

Where are my daighters rights as a new woman to be able to learn to care for herself? Where are my daughter's rights to do the same at her school in a safe environment? How is she going to do this surrounded by boys? She won't. She will be anxious scared and mortified. But to all of you, the girls rights don't matter. We have to spend millions and pander to a handful of trans kids who are welcome to use our bathroom any time they need it.


+1.

I hope this is a wake-up call to women and to parents of girls.



Omg. Who are you hysterical cows?!

Hopefully your daughters don’t procreate. No need to keep this cesspool of genetic defects.



1) calling women "cow

2) calling women "hysertical"

3) shaming our daughters, their ability to procreate and their Gene's

All because we have an opinion on our rights and our bodies! As women! The true hatred on this thread coming out for all to see! How dare us women open our mouth and have an opinion!

Finally an honest sexist misonginst who openly showcases his/her/their (pick your pronoun) hatred of women! Cause that is what is going on here. Women are being shut down. And if you don't comply with the trans liberal agenda you get called names and your daughter too.


Your reaction over this issue tells us everything we need to know about you.

Hysterical
Cow

GFY and your unwarranted drama.
Anonymous
My college had this in 1980. Lots of of hook-ups in the co-ed showers. Loved it. Only downside catching crabs from the ladies on the toliet
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