Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote:So when the Democrats nominate someone and a random Republican Woman makes a vague accusation, you guys will drop your nom too right? I bet it happens.


We did with Franken...


He wasn’t a nominee. Nice try.


He was a US Senator. Now his seat is up for grabs in a surprisingly close race in Minnesota and the national party is forced to spend millions on it. Kavanaugh is far more replaceable.
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Anonymous wrote:Who here saves their calendars?


I do. And I look at them.

- Someone older than Kavanaugh


So does my spouse - also older than Kavanaugh.
I suspect one day, some of the people on this site will regret not maintaining calendars and records.

Heh?

No one’s saying they don’t keep records, we’re saying it’s weird AF to think that a 17 year old binge drinker was carefully tracking his days and writing all of his skeevy social engagements down. It’s not outside the realm of possibility, but it kinda seems.... like a coordinated effort.


Yup. They've done the math and realized they probably can't get a new nominee confirmed before midterms and are digging their heels in. They may get Kavanaugh confirmed, but it will cost them in midterms.

Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh denied new sexual misconduct allegations and said he would “not be intimidated into withdrawing” as the Supreme Court nominee.
Senior Republicans are closing ranks around the nominee, and they echoed Judge Kavanaugh’s claims, accusing Democrats of running “a smear campaign” to derail his confirmation.




Dem here and really? They don't have to do it by election day, just by Jan 20. How is that not enough time? Surely they have a short list.


You sure about that? New Congress takes office Jan. 3.


DP. It's only September now. If they put forward a new name in early October (presuming there's no shutdown or only a short one), then there's still time to confirm the next guy.

It won't look great to do that, but it can't look worse than what they're doing right now.
Anonymous
Interesting article because it is much like what is happening with Kavanaugh.

A blogger was sued by an Army soldier whom she accused of rape 3 decades earlier. He won and was awarded $8.4 million.

This was a soldier from Alexandria, VA. I can’t help but think that many of the same people here who have already said “I believe her” would have, or perhaps DID, say the same thing about this woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793030/Woman-pay-Army-colonel-accused-rape-8-4million.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top


The WaPo story on this indicates that the woman claimed to not know that he was being considered for promotion to General, but a witness contradicted that testimony.



Somebody said last week that Kavanaugh should sue. I said that he is not the type to sue. He is a forgiving person.
But, today I hope he does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when the Democrats nominate someone and a random Republican Woman makes a vague accusation, you guys will drop your nom too right? I bet it happens.


We did with Franken...


He wasn’t a nominee. Nice try.


Honestly?? Dems haven’t put up a SC candidate with a sexual assault charge hanging over his/her head so Frankenstein is going to have to stand in as a plausible example of what Dems would do in similar circumstances. There are lots of fish in the sea. Rs should have pulled the plug on this a long time ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who here saves their calendars?


I do. And I look at them.

- Someone older than Kavanaugh


So does my spouse - also older than Kavanaugh.
I suspect one day, some of the people on this site will regret not maintaining calendars and records.

Heh?

No one’s saying they don’t keep records, we’re saying it’s weird AF to think that a 17 year old binge drinker was carefully tracking his days and writing all of his skeevy social engagements down. It’s not outside the realm of possibility, but it kinda seems.... like a coordinated effort.


Yup. They've done the math and realized they probably can't get a new nominee confirmed before midterms and are digging their heels in. They may get Kavanaugh confirmed, but it will cost them in midterms.

Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh denied new sexual misconduct allegations and said he would “not be intimidated into withdrawing” as the Supreme Court nominee.
Senior Republicans are closing ranks around the nominee, and they echoed Judge Kavanaugh’s claims, accusing Democrats of running “a smear campaign” to derail his confirmation.




Dem here and really? They don't have to do it by election day, just by Jan 20. How is that not enough time? Surely they have a short list.


You sure about that? New Congress takes office Jan. 3.


DP. It's only September now. If they put forward a new name in early October (presuming there's no shutdown or only a short one), then there's still time to confirm the next guy.

It won't look great to do that, but it can't look worse than what they're doing right now.


Just no. Why should they put forward a new nominee just because the Democrats have their panties in a bunch over this one and are trotting out extremely questionable allegations only to derail this nominee?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article because it is much like what is happening with Kavanaugh.

A blogger was sued by an Army soldier whom she accused of rape 3 decades earlier. He won and was awarded $8.4 million.

This was a soldier from Alexandria, VA. I can’t help but think that many of the same people here who have already said “I believe her” would have, or perhaps DID, say the same thing about this woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793030/Woman-pay-Army-colonel-accused-rape-8-4million.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top


The WaPo story on this indicates that the woman claimed to not know that he was being considered for promotion to General, but a witness contradicted that testimony.



Somebody said last week that Kavanaugh should sue. I said that he is not the type to sue. He is a forgiving person.
But, today I hope he does.


It was insane when our president sued for defamation. It was insane when our First Lady sued for defamation. It would be insane for a Supreme Court nominee or justice to sue for defamation.
Anonymous
^ Franken - oh autocorrect sigh.
Anonymous
Michael Avenatti says new Brett Kavanaugh accuser will go public in TV interview in next 48 hours

https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1044291656164560896

.@michaelavenatti tells us his client will go public with an on-camera interview and more details of accusations against Kavanaugh in the next 48 hours https://politi.co/2NDC72T via @politico
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article because it is much like what is happening with Kavanaugh.

A blogger was sued by an Army soldier whom she accused of rape 3 decades earlier. He won and was awarded $8.4 million.

This was a soldier from Alexandria, VA. I can’t help but think that many of the same people here who have already said “I believe her” would have, or perhaps DID, say the same thing about this woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793030/Woman-pay-Army-colonel-accused-rape-8-4million.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top


The WaPo story on this indicates that the woman claimed to not know that he was being considered for promotion to General, but a witness contradicted that testimony.



Somebody said last week that Kavanaugh should sue. I said that he is not the type to sue. He is a forgiving person.
But, today I hope he does.


It was insane when our president sued for defamation. It was insane when our First Lady sued for defamation. It would be insane for a Supreme Court nominee or justice to sue for defamation.


Perhaps a multi-million dollar fine will cause people to think twice before bringing out false allegations.
Anonymous
No, no new nominee until a through investigation is done of this one. Then the Judiciary Committee can vote. Then we move on, one way or another.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article because it is much like what is happening with Kavanaugh.

A blogger was sued by an Army soldier whom she accused of rape 3 decades earlier. He won and was awarded $8.4 million.

This was a soldier from Alexandria, VA. I can’t help but think that many of the same people here who have already said “I believe her” would have, or perhaps DID, say the same thing about this woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793030/Woman-pay-Army-colonel-accused-rape-8-4million.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top


The WaPo story on this indicates that the woman claimed to not know that he was being considered for promotion to General, but a witness contradicted that testimony.



Somebody said last week that Kavanaugh should sue. I said that he is not the type to sue. He is a forgiving person.
But, today I hope he does.


It was insane when our president sued for defamation. It was insane when our First Lady sued for defamation. It would be insane for a Supreme Court nominee or justice to sue for defamation.


Perhaps a multi-million dollar fine will cause people to think twice before bringing out false allegations.


Only if you also add some sort of additional penalty when the claims are proven. The mental wear and tear to go through something like this is extraordinary.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who here saves their calendars?


I do. And I look at them.

- Someone older than Kavanaugh


So does my spouse - also older than Kavanaugh.
I suspect one day, some of the people on this site will regret not maintaining calendars and records.

Heh?

No one’s saying they don’t keep records, we’re saying it’s weird AF to think that a 17 year old binge drinker was carefully tracking his days and writing all of his skeevy social engagements down. It’s not outside the realm of possibility, but it kinda seems.... like a coordinated effort.


Yup. They've done the math and realized they probably can't get a new nominee confirmed before midterms and are digging their heels in. They may get Kavanaugh confirmed, but it will cost them in midterms.

Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh denied new sexual misconduct allegations and said he would “not be intimidated into withdrawing” as the Supreme Court nominee.
Senior Republicans are closing ranks around the nominee, and they echoed Judge Kavanaugh’s claims, accusing Democrats of running “a smear campaign” to derail his confirmation.




Dem here and really? They don't have to do it by election day, just by Jan 20. How is that not enough time? Surely they have a short list.


You sure about that? New Congress takes office Jan. 3.


DP. It's only September now. If they put forward a new name in early October (presuming there's no shutdown or only a short one), then there's still time to confirm the next guy.

It won't look great to do that, but it can't look worse than what they're doing right now.


Just no. Why should they put forward a new nominee just because the Democrats have their panties in a bunch over this one and are trotting out extremely questionable allegations only to derail this nominee?


Because you don't want to lose voters. Only 30% believe Kavanaugh, according to Fox. 36% believe Ford, so you'll piss them off for certain. And 34% are unsure. They are going to be pretty pissed if you confirm someone when they still don't know who to believe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article because it is much like what is happening with Kavanaugh.

A blogger was sued by an Army soldier whom she accused of rape 3 decades earlier. He won and was awarded $8.4 million.

This was a soldier from Alexandria, VA. I can’t help but think that many of the same people here who have already said “I believe her” would have, or perhaps DID, say the same thing about this woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793030/Woman-pay-Army-colonel-accused-rape-8-4million.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top


The WaPo story on this indicates that the woman claimed to not know that he was being considered for promotion to General, but a witness contradicted that testimony.



Somebody said last week that Kavanaugh should sue. I said that he is not the type to sue. He is a forgiving person.
But, today I hope he does.


Daily Mail? Nice source. There is absolutely no discussion of the actual case or the merits on one side or the other or on what the ruling came down to (ie. did he have evidence he couldn't possibly have done it, or was this a "he said, she said" case).
Anonymous
Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.


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Anonymous wrote:The problem now for the GOP is that they don't know what else is floating around out there. The knew about Ford and already had their game plan drawn out. But other shoes keep dropping and this WH finds itself on the defensive. They have no coherent strategy to deal with more allegations.

Personally, I think they try to ram through a Kavanaugh vote but two Republicans defect (Murkowski and Collins).


I am betting the GOP is actually expecting a lot more to “surface” because the Democrats will do “whatever it takes” to derail this nominee.
Thursday is on. It will be a busy day.

I think the Democrats would create allegations against Jesus if he were the nominee.


Except they didn't do this to Gorsuch. This literally happened less than two years ago. AFTER a much more contentious nomination process since they essentially shoplifted him.
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