Republicans want a Potemkin hearing for Christine Blasey Ford

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Anonymous wrote:Meh indeed. Sorry I’m not gripped by sex panic like the rest of you weirdos who probably want teens arrested as child pornographers for sexting.


Teens are arrested for this , sometimes serve jail time, and put on sex offender list. Kavanaugh should be on sex offender list!
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Anonymous wrote:Meh indeed. Sorry I’m not gripped by sex panic like the rest of you weirdos who probably want teens arrested as child pornographers for sexting.


Teens are arrested for this , sometimes serve jail time, and put on sex offender list. Kavanaugh should be on sex offender list!


There you go..........Guilty until proven innocent.
Let me just ask.... if it is discovered, somehow, that Ford is making a false claim, should she be prosecuted?
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For the PP who keeps asking: There is no statute of limitations in Maryland for a felony sexual offense. There are age and definitional limitations. Here is a site with the references:

https://www.rainn.org/pdf-files-and-other-documents/Public-Policy/Legal-resources/2009-Statutes/09MarylandStatutes.pdf

There is a statute of limitations on misdemeanor sexual offenses.

Here is the complete Maryland code on sexual crimes that you can work through for the various definitions and age limitations:

https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-3/subtitle-3/3-303/
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Its a kangaroo court, actually, only that the kangaroo court will inevitably be finding “innocence” rather than guilt.
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The statute limitation of teenage horseplay is measured in days, not decades.


If it was simply "horseplay" then why didn't Kavanaugh TELL THE TRUTH and say "I was young, had too much to drink and made a mistake. I am sorry."

Instead he categorically denies, denies, denies. He's a liar. He's not fit for this position. The debt alone and the lies about that are enough to convince me of that.

I heard a woman dramatically comment today "We have to protect our sons! Any of them could have done the same and any woman could come back 30 years later and ruin our sons." Call her Mother of the Year. DISGUSTING.

Blasey Ford did not risk her safety and that of her family for a fake story.

She passed a polygraph. She has asked for an investigation. Once again, a guilty person DOES NOT ASK FOR AN INVESTIGATION.

Any of women who think otherwise are nuts and I hope you do not have daughters.

And I seriously hope you are keeping a tight reign on your dear sons. My God.



We don't know if she passed a polygraph. That's simply what her lawyer says. If that's the case, let's do it again with a neutral party in a neutral setting. She should have no issues passing again. The asking for an investigation by FBI is grandstanding. There's a reason why she, her lawyer, and senators haven't handed the issue to the MD police.
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The statute limitation of teenage horseplay is measured in days, not decades.


If it was simply "horseplay" then why didn't Kavanaugh TELL THE TRUTH and say "I was young, had too much to drink and made a mistake. I am sorry."

Instead he categorically denies, denies, denies. He's a liar. He's not fit for this position. The debt alone and the lies about that are enough to convince me of that.

I heard a woman dramatically comment today "We have to protect our sons! Any of them could have done the same and any woman could come back 30 years later and ruin our sons." Call her Mother of the Year. DISGUSTING.

Blasey Ford did not risk her safety and that of her family for a fake story.

She passed a polygraph. She has asked for an investigation. Once again, a guilty person DOES NOT ASK FOR AN INVESTIGATION.

Any of women who think otherwise are nuts and I hope you do not have daughters.

And I seriously hope you are keeping a tight reign on your dear sons. My God.



Would you be willing to testify, under oath, that you actually heard a woman say that?
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Things are getting out of control with this cry for an FBI investigation. Y’all have images of Sherlock Holmes in your heads or something. I think there should be one, don’t get me wrong. Agentts talk to the Judge. Agents talk to the Professor. Details? Who, what, where, when, etc. Other agents track down potential witnesses. Whether there is much more to look into depends on the answers. I’m assuming his file, developed over six, court ‘em, six prior FBI background checks, contains character testimonials. It would take five days, tops, assuming witnesses are unearthed and other derivative leads need to be tracked down. If not, it’s fone in two days.

To be clear, hypocrisy is all over the place. If the shoe was in the other foot, the GOP would be demanding a pause for an investigation, no stone left unturned, up by your bootstraps, or whatever. And Democrats would be accusing them of dirty tricks, character attacks, and refusing to focus on the issues.
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Anonymous wrote:Meh indeed. Sorry I’m not gripped by sex panic like the rest of you weirdos who probably want teens arrested as child pornographers for sexting.


Teens are arrested for this , sometimes serve jail time, and put on sex offender list. Kavanaugh should be on sex offender list!


There you go..........Guilty until proven innocent.
Let me just ask.... if it is discovered, somehow, that Ford is making a false claim, should she be prosecuted?


DP here.

Of course. Do you somehow think that people don't have to face consequences for wrongdoing?

What is wrong with you?
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Seriously, I’m so sick of this notion that women don’t lie or exaggerate these things. Women are complicated, flawed humans just like men. We lie. We exaggerate. We misremember. Grow up, people.


There is no question some women make false claims of rape.

So, if Ms. Ford is making such a claim, why not INVESTIGATE it???

The way the claims in the above referenced study were found to be false is they were INVESTIGATED!!!

So, again, I ask you, why does the GOP not want to INVESTIGATE Ms. Ford's allegation that Judge Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her? Why? What are they hiding?

If she's lying, that will come out. If she's lying, she deserves all the derision the GOP is spewing her way. If she's lying, she deserves to be prosecuted.

But if she's not lying, well....


Because it’s a ridiculously old allegation about a brief alcohol-soaked incident involving minors. Give me a break.


That's right, keep minimizing it. Get your Republican congressmen to come out with statements minimizing it, too. Show your true colors.


Yes women need to be believed no matter what.

Even if they can't remember, who was there, where it happened, when it happened or what happened, and don't feel strongly enough to bring it up the last time their alleged assailant went up for a judicial nomination.

Remember, women must be believed.
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Anonymous wrote:She doesn’t remember the YEAR in which this alleged attempted rape occurred.

Ridiculous.


Then she can't do math because she does remember she was 15....


Unless your birthday is Jan 1, everyone is 15 across two different years.


Yes, but not 2 different summers.

It happened in the summer. Anyone not born in the summer only has one summer they are 15. It’s not that hard.
If I’m born Jan through May, it’s the summer right after I turned 15, if I’m born Sept. through December, it’s the summer right before I turned 16.
Even if you’re born in the summer, it’s either the summer you turned 15 or the summer you turned 16.

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Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Kanin's study lacked any kind of systematic methodology and did not independently define a false report, instead recording as false any report which the police department classified as false, whereas Kanin stated that the women filing the false allegations of rape had recanted. The department classified reports as false which the complainant later said were false, but Kanin's study did not scrutinize the police's processes or employ independent checkers to protect results from bias.
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Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Kanin's study lacked any kind of systematic methodology and did not independently define a false report, instead recording as false any report which the police department classified as false, whereas Kanin stated that the women filing the false allegations of rape had recanted. The department classified reports as false which the complainant later said were false, but Kanin's study did not scrutinize the police's processes or employ independent checkers to protect results from bias.


Academic researcher here. I haven't read the article since I'm working on other stuff (taking a break and checking DCUM). However, I did noticed one thing. If you look over to the right of the abstract, you'll see that it's only cited once, according to PubMed's records. Once since 1994.

Citations are considered a proxy for an article's impact and influence on future research. That makes me think that other researchers didn't think much of this study if it's only cited once in the past 24 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Seriously, I’m so sick of this notion that women don’t lie or exaggerate these things. Women are complicated, flawed humans just like men. We lie. We exaggerate. We misremember. Grow up, people.


There is no question some women make false claims of rape.

So, if Ms. Ford is making such a claim, why not INVESTIGATE it???

The way the claims in the above referenced study were found to be false is they were INVESTIGATED!!!

So, again, I ask you, why does the GOP not want to INVESTIGATE Ms. Ford's allegation that Judge Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her? Why? What are they hiding?

If she's lying, that will come out. If she's lying, she deserves all the derision the GOP is spewing her way. If she's lying, she deserves to be prosecuted.

But if she's not lying, well....


Because it’s a ridiculously old allegation about a brief alcohol-soaked incident involving minors. Give me a break.


That's right, keep minimizing it. Get your Republican congressmen to come out with statements minimizing it, too. Show your true colors.


Yes women need to be believed no matter what.

Even if they can't remember, who was there, where it happened, when it happened or what happened, and don't feel strongly enough to bring it up the last time their alleged assailant went up for a judicial nomination.

Remember, women must be believed.


+100
And, men be damned.
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Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Kanin's study lacked any kind of systematic methodology and did not independently define a false report, instead recording as false any report which the police department classified as false, whereas Kanin stated that the women filing the false allegations of rape had recanted. The department classified reports as false which the complainant later said were false, but Kanin's study did not scrutinize the police's processes or employ independent checkers to protect results from bias.


Academic researcher here. I haven't read the article since I'm working on other stuff (taking a break and checking DCUM). However, I did noticed one thing. If you look over to the right of the abstract, you'll see that it's only cited once, according to PubMed's records. Once since 1994.

Citations are considered a proxy for an article's impact and influence on future research. That makes me think that other researchers didn't think much of this study if it's only cited once in the past 24 years.


I'm a research scientist, and agree that citations are a measure of an article's impact in its field. One citation in 24 years is absolutely dismal.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/samstein/status/1042887558303285249

Here’s the real pic, without photoshop.

Along the theme of the thread: da crap? 1) when has a SC nom ever needed a cheerleading bus? 2) who paid for this? Seriously, what dark money is pushing this crap candidate upstream? 3a) I thought Brett testified that Roe was settled law. You don’t think this anti choice bus suggests that he won’t actually allow Roe to remain the law of the land? And you don’t think that he won’t go after birth control? 3b) if the bus says “women for Kavanaugh,” why are there more men than there are women?

This whole thing is a sham.
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