What is it like sending your DC to a majority/plurality asian school?(Churchill/Wootton area)

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Anonymous wrote:I should add, the true test of the new principal at Churchill will be whether she addresses problems head on, work with staff, students, and parents to identify and resolve problems or if she talks a good talk but does nothing like her predecessor.


Agree, PP! Do you see that there’s a Meet and Greet with the new principal next week?


Really, you think a meet and greet is the appropriate time and place to discuss these things? Not too many people around the neighborhood now so perhaps it will be a quaint enough gathering to do so but it might put her on the spot.

It seems however that a meet and greet will only have time to say hi and bye but not really enough time to delve into what is going to be done to fix the big issues in the school. I would think a PTA meeting or a town forum at a time closer to the start of school or even a scheduled meeting if she had the time would be more appropriate.


It would be appropriate to ask a question or two about addressing some of the issues that Churchill went through last year, For example, What your plans to address the racist and anti-Semitic incidents from last year?

Do you have any plans to increase training for coaches?

Not too hard to ask these simple questions.


I think working through the PTA will have a louder voice to make headway on these issues. The PTA President is well aware of specifics and can help guide the discussion to a more appropriate venue. A flipant answer at a Meet and Greet without an opportunity to develop a real solution wouldn't be progress. Parents and teachers want real solutions to problems in the school not lip service.


No one’s disagreeing that working through he PTSA is a good idea. It just seems strange that you think that parents shouldn’t take the opportunity presented to share their concerns and get the new principal’s point of view as well.


People can do what they want. I am out of town so I can't attend. I also think people should be respectful of the agenda.

Regarding the PTA, we have had self serving leadership in the past but I think the current board has the best interest of the school at heart. MCCPTA also has been working with the Churchill PTA on these issues. I think they can speak with a collective voice so individual students and families are not retaliated as been the case in the past. They also can connect enough dots to know the issues are wide and broad beyond a single incident, a single student, or a single athletic team.


Unless parents speak up individually and make it a point to speak to the Principal, Assistant Principal, nothing will get accomplished. I have been hearing this for 3 years about how the PTA is working with the school in getting issues addressed. Three years later, it is as bad as its been. Anti Semitic Incidents, racist incidents, fights, Coaching problems, drug dealing, cheating, traffic problems that resulted in a student getting hit by a car are just a few of things that are going on. A traffic study was announced that will take a year. Going to these parent meetings were useless. The Principal would sit there and say everything is great, and no accountability. There is a select group of parents at Churchill that use their influence to push their agenda and the former Principal went along with it. If the new Principal has any chance of changing things at Churchill, she needs to be decisive and not be influenced by select parties.
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what's it like?
safe, everyone studies hard, excellent tennis team, some cliques due to sunday language classes, well-behaved students, good scoring students.
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Anonymous wrote:what's it like?
safe, everyone studies hard, excellent tennis team, some cliques due to sunday language classes, well-behaved students, good scoring students.


Perhaps tennis is safe, but some of the other athletic teams seriously are not. Even some of the teachers really demonstrate questionable behavior with students.

Students in general do work hard but there is a strong influence to do drugs and alcohol.

I don't know if Sunday language classes are responsible for cliques but yes there are cliques. Sometimes mean cliques that bully other students. Cyber bullying is a huge issue for some students.
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To the PP who want parents to speak up individually, we tried that route already. Dr. Benz and Mr. Rohner did nothing. Central Office didn't even fix the problems. Thank God we have a new Director for next year.

Parents need to go public with these issues so the Churchill administration and MCPS is accountable.
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Anonymous wrote:I should add, the true test of the new principal at Churchill will be whether she addresses problems head on, work with staff, students, and parents to identify and resolve problems or if she talks a good talk but does nothing like her predecessor.


Agree, PP! Do you see that there’s a Meet and Greet with the new principal next week?


Really, you think a meet and greet is the appropriate time and place to discuss these things? Not too many people around the neighborhood now so perhaps it will be a quaint enough gathering to do so but it might put her on the spot.

It seems however that a meet and greet will only have time to say hi and bye but not really enough time to delve into what is going to be done to fix the big issues in the school. I would think a PTA meeting or a town forum at a time closer to the start of school or even a scheduled meeting if she had the time would be more appropriate.


It would be appropriate to ask a question or two about addressing some of the issues that Churchill went through last year, For example, What your plans to address the racist and anti-Semitic incidents from last year?

Do you have any plans to increase training for coaches?

Not too hard to ask these simple questions.


I think working through the PTA will have a louder voice to make headway on these issues. The PTA President is well aware of specifics and can help guide the discussion to a more appropriate venue. A flipant answer at a Meet and Greet without an opportunity to develop a real solution wouldn't be progress. Parents and teachers want real solutions to problems in the school not lip service.


No one’s disagreeing that working through he PTSA is a good idea. It just seems strange that you think that parents shouldn’t take the opportunity presented to share their concerns and get the new principal’s point of view as well.


People can do what they want. I am out of town so I can't attend. I also think people should be respectful of the agenda.

Regarding the PTA, we have had self serving leadership in the past but I think the current board has the best interest of the school at heart. MCCPTA also has been working with the Churchill PTA on these issues. I think they can speak with a collective voice so individual students and families are not retaliated as been the case in the past. They also can connect enough dots to know the issues are wide and broad beyond a single incident, a single student, or a single athletic team.


Unless parents speak up individually and make it a point to speak to the Principal, Assistant Principal, nothing will get accomplished. I have been hearing this for 3 years about how the PTA is working with the school in getting issues addressed. Three years later, it is as bad as its been. Anti Semitic Incidents, racist incidents, fights, Coaching problems, drug dealing, cheating, traffic problems that resulted in a student getting hit by a car are just a few of things that are going on. A traffic study was announced that will take a year. Going to these parent meetings were useless. The Principal would sit there and say everything is great, and no accountability. There is a select group of parents at Churchill that use their influence to push their agenda and the former Principal went along with it. If the new Principal has any chance of changing things at Churchill, she needs to be decisive and not be influenced by select parties.


First off the current PTA President is fantastic. He has integrity and a true life long dedication to making the world a better place. The traffic problems are the fault of parents who don't follow the rules and the kid who got hit by a car was running across the middle of the street. It was his fault not the car. These are high school kids not toddlers. They need to be less lazy and cross at the cross walks and the parents need to be less entitled and wait in the proper drop off line or gasp, have their kid take the bus. All the other stuff, fights, drugs etc.. happen at virtually every single public high school in our country. I do think that the school would be well served to address some of these racial/anti semitic incidents in a more wholistic way by the reality is there is only so much money and not enough time for them to STOP and really make character development a part of the curriculum. Blame MCPS not Churchill for that. Benz was the worst but Roher is on the right track and I am hopeful that the new Principal will bring good things.
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The traffic problems are the fault of parents who don't follow the rules and the kid who got hit by a car was running across the middle of the street. It was his fault not the car.


Wait WTF? I hope you don't drive. You should not be driving fast in a school zone and be ready to stop quickly.
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Please explain how you think Rohner is on the right track. What specifically has he done to solve any of the problems in the school? Perhaps I am out of the loop.

The administration should come up with a clear plan and follow through. MCPS is great with lip service but no action.
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The carloop at the school is insane and runs right through the student parking lot. Just the simple act of placing a stop sign or someone to direct traffic at the exit of the carloop would help traffic to flow better and safer. The carloop backs up because traffic won't let people exit.
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The traffic problems are the fault of parents who don't follow the rules and the kid who got hit by a car was running across the middle of the street. It was his fault not the car.


Wait WTF? I hope you don't drive. You should not be driving fast in a school zone and be ready to stop quickly.


The car wasn't going fast the kid ran out into traffic, there is no way anyone can drive fast at that time of day on that road. The kid didn't want to walk and thought he would jay walk and stepped out in front of a car. His fault. He wasn't badly hurt.
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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how you think Rohner is on the right track. What specifically has he done to solve any of the problems in the school? Perhaps I am out of the loop.

The administration should come up with a clear plan and follow through. MCPS is great with lip service but no action.


+1 Please explain. I have seen nothing form that guy and he doesn't answer emails.
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Anonymous wrote:I should add, the true test of the new principal at Churchill will be whether she addresses problems head on, work with staff, students, and parents to identify and resolve problems or if she talks a good talk but does nothing like her predecessor.


Agree, PP! Do you see that there’s a Meet and Greet with the new principal next week?


Really, you think a meet and greet is the appropriate time and place to discuss these things? Not too many people around the neighborhood now so perhaps it will be a quaint enough gathering to do so but it might put her on the spot.

It seems however that a meet and greet will only have time to say hi and bye but not really enough time to delve into what is going to be done to fix the big issues in the school. I would think a PTA meeting or a town forum at a time closer to the start of school or even a scheduled meeting if she had the time would be more appropriate.


It would be appropriate to ask a question or two about addressing some of the issues that Churchill went through last year, For example, What your plans to address the racist and anti-Semitic incidents from last year?

Do you have any plans to increase training for coaches?

Not too hard to ask these simple questions.


I think working through the PTA will have a louder voice to make headway on these issues. The PTA President is well aware of specifics and can help guide the discussion to a more appropriate venue. A flipant answer at a Meet and Greet without an opportunity to develop a real solution wouldn't be progress. Parents and teachers want real solutions to problems in the school not lip service.


No one’s disagreeing that working through he PTSA is a good idea. It just seems strange that you think that parents shouldn’t take the opportunity presented to share their concerns and get the new principal’s point of view as well.


People can do what they want. I am out of town so I can't attend. I also think people should be respectful of the agenda.

Regarding the PTA, we have had self serving leadership in the past but I think the current board has the best interest of the school at heart. MCCPTA also has been working with the Churchill PTA on these issues. I think they can speak with a collective voice so individual students and families are not retaliated as been the case in the past. They also can connect enough dots to know the issues are wide and broad beyond a single incident, a single student, or a single athletic team.


Unless parents speak up individually and make it a point to speak to the Principal, Assistant Principal, nothing will get accomplished. I have been hearing this for 3 years about how the PTA is working with the school in getting issues addressed. Three years later, it is as bad as its been. Anti Semitic Incidents, racist incidents, fights, Coaching problems, drug dealing, cheating, traffic problems that resulted in a student getting hit by a car are just a few of things that are going on. A traffic study was announced that will take a year. Going to these parent meetings were useless. The Principal would sit there and say everything is great, and no accountability. There is a select group of parents at Churchill that use their influence to push their agenda and the former Principal went along with it. If the new Principal has any chance of changing things at Churchill, she needs to be decisive and not be influenced by select parties.


First off the current PTA President is fantastic. He has integrity and a true life long dedication to making the world a better place. The traffic problems are the fault of parents who don't follow the rules and the kid who got hit by a car was running across the middle of the street. It was his fault not the car. These are high school kids not toddlers. They need to be less lazy and cross at the cross walks and the parents need to be less entitled and wait in the proper drop off line or gasp, have their kid take the bus. All the other stuff, fights, drugs etc.. happen at virtually every single public high school in our country. I do think that the school would be well served to address some of these racial/anti semitic incidents in a more wholistic way by the reality is there is only so much money and not enough time for them to STOP and really make character development a part of the curriculum. Blame MCPS not Churchill for that. Benz was the worst but Roher is on the right track and I am hopeful that the new Principal will bring good things.


There was another incident of a girl that got hit by a car. Parent was on a cellphone.
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Anonymous wrote:The carloop at the school is insane and runs right through the student parking lot. Just the simple act of placing a stop sign or someone to direct traffic at the exit of the carloop would help traffic to flow better and safer. The carloop backs up because traffic won't let people exit.

Maybe not having the school guards guarding the teacher lots and directing traffic out of the drop off area would also help. Having traffic turn in both ways to the drop off area also creates a bottleneck. It really isn't rocket science someone just has to have the incentive to want to change things.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I should add, the true test of the new principal at Churchill will be whether she addresses problems head on, work with staff, students, and parents to identify and resolve problems or if she talks a good talk but does nothing like her predecessor.


Agree, PP! Do you see that there’s a Meet and Greet with the new principal next week?


Really, you think a meet and greet is the appropriate time and place to discuss these things? Not too many people around the neighborhood now so perhaps it will be a quaint enough gathering to do so but it might put her on the spot.

It seems however that a meet and greet will only have time to say hi and bye but not really enough time to delve into what is going to be done to fix the big issues in the school. I would think a PTA meeting or a town forum at a time closer to the start of school or even a scheduled meeting if she had the time would be more appropriate.


It would be appropriate to ask a question or two about addressing some of the issues that Churchill went through last year, For example, What your plans to address the racist and anti-Semitic incidents from last year?

Do you have any plans to increase training for coaches?

Not too hard to ask these simple questions.


I think working through the PTA will have a louder voice to make headway on these issues. The PTA President is well aware of specifics and can help guide the discussion to a more appropriate venue. A flipant answer at a Meet and Greet without an opportunity to develop a real solution wouldn't be progress. Parents and teachers want real solutions to problems in the school not lip service.


No one’s disagreeing that working through he PTSA is a good idea. It just seems strange that you think that parents shouldn’t take the opportunity presented to share their concerns and get the new principal’s point of view as well.


People can do what they want. I am out of town so I can't attend. I also think people should be respectful of the agenda.

Regarding the PTA, we have had self serving leadership in the past but I think the current board has the best interest of the school at heart. MCCPTA also has been working with the Churchill PTA on these issues. I think they can speak with a collective voice so individual students and families are not retaliated as been the case in the past. They also can connect enough dots to know the issues are wide and broad beyond a single incident, a single student, or a single athletic team.


Unless parents speak up individually and make it a point to speak to the Principal, Assistant Principal, nothing will get accomplished. I have been hearing this for 3 years about how the PTA is working with the school in getting issues addressed. Three years later, it is as bad as its been. Anti Semitic Incidents, racist incidents, fights, Coaching problems, drug dealing, cheating, traffic problems that resulted in a student getting hit by a car are just a few of things that are going on. A traffic study was announced that will take a year. Going to these parent meetings were useless. The Principal would sit there and say everything is great, and no accountability. There is a select group of parents at Churchill that use their influence to push their agenda and the former Principal went along with it. If the new Principal has any chance of changing things at Churchill, she needs to be decisive and not be influenced by select parties.


First off the current PTA President is fantastic. He has integrity and a true life long dedication to making the world a better place. The traffic problems are the fault of parents who don't follow the rules and the kid who got hit by a car was running across the middle of the street. It was his fault not the car. These are high school kids not toddlers. They need to be less lazy and cross at the cross walks and the parents need to be less entitled and wait in the proper drop off line or gasp, have their kid take the bus. All the other stuff, fights, drugs etc.. happen at virtually every single public high school in our country. I do think that the school would be well served to address some of these racial/anti semitic incidents in a more wholistic way by the reality is there is only so much money and not enough time for them to STOP and really make character development a part of the curriculum. Blame MCPS not Churchill for that. Benz was the worst but Roher is on the right track and I am hopeful that the new Principal will bring good things.



It doesn't take a lot of money for the school to reach out to Community Leaders to discuss issues related to character. The "not enough time" is an excuse to not do the right thing.
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Anonymous wrote:I should add, the true test of the new principal at Churchill will be whether she addresses problems head on, work with staff, students, and parents to identify and resolve problems or if she talks a good talk but does nothing like her predecessor.


Agree, PP! Do you see that there’s a Meet and Greet with the new principal next week?


Really, you think a meet and greet is the appropriate time and place to discuss these things? Not too many people around the neighborhood now so perhaps it will be a quaint enough gathering to do so but it might put her on the spot.

It seems however that a meet and greet will only have time to say hi and bye but not really enough time to delve into what is going to be done to fix the big issues in the school. I would think a PTA meeting or a town forum at a time closer to the start of school or even a scheduled meeting if she had the time would be more appropriate.


It would be appropriate to ask a question or two about addressing some of the issues that Churchill went through last year, For example, What your plans to address the racist and anti-Semitic incidents from last year?

Do you have any plans to increase training for coaches?

Not too hard to ask these simple questions.


I think working through the PTA will have a louder voice to make headway on these issues. The PTA President is well aware of specifics and can help guide the discussion to a more appropriate venue. A flipant answer at a Meet and Greet without an opportunity to develop a real solution wouldn't be progress. Parents and teachers want real solutions to problems in the school not lip service.


No one’s disagreeing that working through he PTSA is a good idea. It just seems strange that you think that parents shouldn’t take the opportunity presented to share their concerns and get the new principal’s point of view as well.


People can do what they want. I am out of town so I can't attend. I also think people should be respectful of the agenda.

Regarding the PTA, we have had self serving leadership in the past but I think the current board has the best interest of the school at heart. MCCPTA also has been working with the Churchill PTA on these issues. I think they can speak with a collective voice so individual students and families are not retaliated as been the case in the past. They also can connect enough dots to know the issues are wide and broad beyond a single incident, a single student, or a single athletic team.


Unless parents speak up individually and make it a point to speak to the Principal, Assistant Principal, nothing will get accomplished. I have been hearing this for 3 years about how the PTA is working with the school in getting issues addressed. Three years later, it is as bad as its been. Anti Semitic Incidents, racist incidents, fights, Coaching problems, drug dealing, cheating, traffic problems that resulted in a student getting hit by a car are just a few of things that are going on. A traffic study was announced that will take a year. Going to these parent meetings were useless. The Principal would sit there and say everything is great, and no accountability. There is a select group of parents at Churchill that use their influence to push their agenda and the former Principal went along with it. If the new Principal has any chance of changing things at Churchill, she needs to be decisive and not be influenced by select parties.


First off the current PTA President is fantastic. He has integrity and a true life long dedication to making the world a better place. The traffic problems are the fault of parents who don't follow the rules and the kid who got hit by a car was running across the middle of the street. It was his fault not the car. These are high school kids not toddlers. They need to be less lazy and cross at the cross walks and the parents need to be less entitled and wait in the proper drop off line or gasp, have their kid take the bus. All the other stuff, fights, drugs etc.. happen at virtually every single public high school in our country. I do think that the school would be well served to address some of these racial/anti semitic incidents in a more wholistic way by the reality is there is only so much money and not enough time for them to STOP and really make character development a part of the curriculum. Blame MCPS not Churchill for that. Benz was the worst but Roher is on the right track and I am hopeful that the new Principal will bring good things.



So we should just accept it because it happens everywhere else?
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Anonymous wrote:The carloop at the school is insane and runs right through the student parking lot. Just the simple act of placing a stop sign or someone to direct traffic at the exit of the carloop would help traffic to flow better and safer. The carloop backs up because traffic won't let people exit.

Maybe not having the school guards guarding the teacher lots and directing traffic out of the drop off area would also help. Having traffic turn in both ways to the drop off area also creates a bottleneck. It really isn't rocket science someone just has to have the incentive to want to change things.


+1 Guards help at the middle schools, why not high schools. Perhaps also have the students park in the teacher lot and have the teacher lot where the student lot is so guards can direct traffic in the loop, watch the teacher spots so no students park in them, and ease the congestion to just one tiny lot currently handling all student parking and car drop off loop. You could also add a second drop off loop at the athletic field parking lot. There is a loop there like the car loop on the other side of the school. Currently, security guards keep drivers from using it though.
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