Forced to stand for pledge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WISH more schools would require this.

You don't see the irony of forcing someone to stand while they say "with liberty and justice for all"?

Not as much as forcing girls to share restrooms with people with penises in the name of "progress," to tell you the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Nobody on this thread has said that kids should never be required to do anything. This thread is about schools requiring kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is unconstitutional for schools to require kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I.e., requiring kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE violates their FIRST AMENDMENT rights.

Doesn't say anything about standing. Sorry. They are not standing to salute. They are standing in respect for others--just like you are silent when others pray. If you don't want to say the Lord's Prayer at a funeral, you do not have to do so--but, it is expected that you will remain silent for others.

Well the esteemed Supreme Court justices disagreed with you. They clearly argue in the decision that no only is saying the pledge a form of political speech, but gestures can also be political speech (physically saluting the flag, bowing or baring the head, or kneeling). Because political speech cannot be compelled by the state and compulsory physical gestures or actions are a form of political speech, physical actions cannot be compelled by the state.

Which is why you can't force someone to bake a same sex wedding cake. I'm with ya. Leave people alone.

I LOVE YOU!

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nobody on this thread has said that kids should never be required to do anything. This thread is about schools requiring kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is unconstitutional for schools to require kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I.e., requiring kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE violates their FIRST AMENDMENT rights.

Doesn't say anything about standing. Sorry. They are not standing to salute. They are standing in respect for others--just like you are silent when others pray. If you don't want to say the Lord's Prayer at a funeral, you do not have to do so--but, it is expected that you will remain silent for others.

Well the esteemed Supreme Court justices disagreed with you. They clearly argue in the decision that no only is saying the pledge a form of political speech, but gestures can also be political speech (physically saluting the flag, bowing or baring the head, or kneeling). Because political speech cannot be compelled by the state and compulsory physical gestures or actions are a form of political speech, physical actions cannot be compelled by the state.

Which is why you can't force someone to bake a same sex wedding cake. I'm with ya. Leave people alone.

I LOVE YOU!

Love is blind, apparently. Because those two situations are not even remotely the same. And you know it.

True.

One is a public, taxpayer-funded school, where we can expect everyone to show a minimum respect for the common good, and the other is a mere private transaction between two adults with free will and multiple options.

Wait, that's not what you meant, is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nobody on this thread has said that kids should never be required to do anything. This thread is about schools requiring kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is unconstitutional for schools to require kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I.e., requiring kids TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE violates their FIRST AMENDMENT rights.

Doesn't say anything about standing. Sorry. They are not standing to salute. They are standing in respect for others--just like you are silent when others pray. If you don't want to say the Lord's Prayer at a funeral, you do not have to do so--but, it is expected that you will remain silent for others.

Well the esteemed Supreme Court justices disagreed with you. They clearly argue in the decision that no only is saying the pledge a form of political speech, but gestures can also be political speech (physically saluting the flag, bowing or baring the head, or kneeling). Because political speech cannot be compelled by the state and compulsory physical gestures or actions are a form of political speech, physical actions cannot be compelled by the state.

Which is why you can't force someone to bake a same sex wedding cake. I'm with ya. Leave people alone.

I LOVE YOU!

Love is blind, apparently. Because those two situations are not even remotely the same. And you know it.

True.

One is a public, taxpayer-funded school, where we can expect everyone to show a minimum respect for the common good, and the other is a mere private transaction between two adults with free will and multiple options.

Wait, that's not what you meant, is it?

Well done, PP, well done!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WISH more schools would require this.

You don't see the irony of forcing someone to stand while they say "with liberty and justice for all"?

Not as much as forcing girls to share restrooms with people with penises in the name of "progress," to tell you the truth.

Why do you hate the USA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WISH more schools would require this.

You don't see the irony of forcing someone to stand while they say "with liberty and justice for all"?

Not as much as forcing girls to share restrooms with people with penises in the name of "progress," to tell you the truth.

Why do you hate the USA?

??

Why do you hate girls?

Why do you hate facts?

Why do you hate truth?

Why do you hate everyone who doesn't drink your kool-aid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WISH more schools would require this.

You don't see the irony of forcing someone to stand while they say "with liberty and justice for all"?

Not as much as forcing girls to share restrooms with people with penises in the name of "progress," to tell you the truth.

Why do you hate the USA?

??

Why do you hate girls?

Why do you hate facts?

Why do you hate truth?

Why do you hate everyone who doesn't drink your kool-aid?

why are you such an unpatriotic homophobe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WISH more schools would require this.

You don't see the irony of forcing someone to stand while they say "with liberty and justice for all"?

Not as much as forcing girls to share restrooms with people with penises in the name of "progress," to tell you the truth.

Why do you hate the USA?

??

Why do you hate girls?

Why do you hate facts?

Why do you hate truth?

Why do you hate everyone who doesn't drink your kool-aid?

why are you such an unpatriotic homophobe?

Why don't you take your meds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WISH more schools would require this.

You don't see the irony of forcing someone to stand while they say "with liberty and justice for all"?

Not as much as forcing girls to share restrooms with people with penises in the name of "progress," to tell you the truth.

Why do you hate the USA?

??

Why do you hate girls?

Why do you hate facts?

Why do you hate truth?

Why do you hate everyone who doesn't drink your kool-aid?

why are you such an unpatriotic homophobe?

Why don't you take your meds?

Are you the nutter obsessed with “meds”? Going to start naming specific drugs and doses next? I bet you’re very familiar with them...

You still haven’t answered - why do you hate the USA?