Why do uneducated people homeschool?

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Anonymous wrote:I received an excellent 1-12 education. I learned nothing in college. Not sure why OP thinks 4 year degree is needed to teach 1-12.


I don’t believe that you went to college, but I do believe that you watch a LOT of Fox News. Enjoy living in your own manipulated ignorance.


NP.

*shrug* I have two Master's degrees (cross my heart), and neither of them is of any use to me. I can safely say that I learned nothing of essence in college LOL

I don't have cable TV, so don't bother with the Fox News bashing.

Enjoy living in your own, heavily manipulated, I assure you, ignorance


College teaches you critical thinking and exposes you to all sorts of ideologies and philosophies, not just facts and figures. Did you really not get anything out of college?


It really doesn't. Not the current American higher education anyway.

I certainly got something out of college. I found a good husband. I have fancy letters after my name, but never use them, because my work has absolutely nothing with any of my academic credentials.

FYI, I made some quick cash with tutoring a highly technical subject during the first years of college (basically, right out of high school). Trust me, a well-prepared high school grad is fully capable to teach for multiple choice testing this educational system is a slave to.

OP will now make a point that you had abilities because you want to college and those, who didn't, lack those abilities. She, somehow believes, that being in a bad school is better.


DP. There are actually a bunch of us who think homeschooling is by and large terrible for the kids involved, if only that they can't get what they need to survive in life. And FYI, it's great that PP was a "well-prepared" high school grad who was capable of reaching 1-12. But I would absolutely wager that a kid that is prepared out of high school for the responsibilities of teaching children is the exception rather than the rule.

How many homeschooling parents are so well-prepared? That's right, **you don't know**. Abuse, incompetence, idiots run rampant and unchecked. Look at the Turpins.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I received an excellent 1-12 education. I learned nothing in college. Not sure why OP thinks 4 year degree is needed to teach 1-12.


I don’t believe that you went to college, but I do believe that you watch a LOT of Fox News. Enjoy living in your own manipulated ignorance.


NP.

*shrug* I have two Master's degrees (cross my heart), and neither of them is of any use to me. I can safely say that I learned nothing of essence in college LOL

I don't have cable TV, so don't bother with the Fox News bashing.

Enjoy living in your own, heavily manipulated, I assure you, ignorance


College teaches you critical thinking and exposes you to all sorts of ideologies and philosophies, not just facts and figures. Did you really not get anything out of college?


Is the PP really arguing that you don't need a college degree to teach 1-12? I mean, why do we require elementary teachers to have teaching degrees? I'll make an argument to the school board that we can just start recruiting from the local McDonald's.

SMDH

The graduates go to work in McDonald's, so there is no problem. Not everyone is capable of sitting a cubicle.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I received an excellent 1-12 education. I learned nothing in college. Not sure why OP thinks 4 year degree is needed to teach 1-12.


I don’t believe that you went to college, but I do believe that you watch a LOT of Fox News. Enjoy living in your own manipulated ignorance.


NP.

*shrug* I have two Master's degrees (cross my heart), and neither of them is of any use to me. I can safely say that I learned nothing of essence in college LOL

I don't have cable TV, so don't bother with the Fox News bashing.

Enjoy living in your own, heavily manipulated, I assure you, ignorance


College teaches you critical thinking and exposes you to all sorts of ideologies and philosophies, not just facts and figures. Did you really not get anything out of college?


Is the PP really arguing that you don't need a college degree to teach 1-12? I mean, why do we require elementary teachers to have teaching degrees? I'll make an argument to the school board that we can just start recruiting from the local McDonald's.

SMDH

The graduates go to work in McDonald's, so there is no problem. Not everyone is capable of sitting a cubicle.


So yes, we can get high school graduates without a college degree from McD's to teach 6th grade?

Not sure about cubicles, but you sure prove the point that not everyone is capable of basic brain functions.
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DP. There are actually a bunch of us who think homeschooling is by and large terrible for the kids involved, if only that they can't get what they need to survive in life. And FYI, it's great that PP was a "well-prepared" high school grad who was capable of reaching 1-12. But I would absolutely wager that a kid that is prepared out of high school for the responsibilities of teaching children is the exception rather than the rule.

How many homeschooling parents are so well-prepared? That's right, **you don't know**. Abuse, incompetence, idiots run rampant and unchecked. Look at the Turpins

You can't compare the worst of the homeschooling to an average public school. Compare it to reality. D is a passing grade in many school districts and you get it for just showing up in some schools. It is scary inside some of them, scary even in elementary. Do you really think that a school where less than 20% of students are proficient in math or English is a better option? I guess one does learn a trade like selling drugs by the end of it. Those schools are nothing but "babysitting" services while parents work.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s your point OP? This thread demonstrates that a wide variety of people choose homeschooling. It’s like asking why wealthy people send their kids to public school...


This is OP. You clearly have reading comprehension issues because you did not understand my question. I asked why uneducated Americans homeschool. I know there educated people out there who homeschool but it's not what I wanted to discuss.


Ahhh...so you just wanted to begin a thread for the purpose of bashing a certain group of people without hearing positive comments about homeschooling parents.


OP clearly has underlying issues and I’m beginning to think troll.



Disagree completely. It’s a valid, perplexing question. I guess the answer just is that stupid people make stupid decisions.


Exactly. It’s not trolling when most of the thread is on the same page.
Anonymous
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DP. There are actually a bunch of us who think homeschooling is by and large terrible for the kids involved, if only that they can't get what they need to survive in life. And FYI, it's great that PP was a "well-prepared" high school grad who was capable of reaching 1-12. But I would absolutely wager that a kid that is prepared out of high school for the responsibilities of teaching children is the exception rather than the rule.

How many homeschooling parents are so well-prepared? That's right, **you don't know**. Abuse, incompetence, idiots run rampant and unchecked. Look at the Turpins

You can't compare the worst of the homeschooling to an average public school. Compare it to reality. D is a passing grade in many school districts and you get it for just showing up in some schools. It is scary inside some of them, scary even in elementary. Do you really think that a school where less than 20% of students are proficient in math or English is a better option? I guess one does learn a trade like selling drugs by the end of it. Those schools are nothing but "babysitting" services while parents work.


That is not the "reality" for the vast majority of public schools and I doubt all of you homeschoolers live in an inner city failing school.

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DP. There are actually a bunch of us who think homeschooling is by and large terrible for the kids involved, if only that they can't get what they need to survive in life. And FYI, it's great that PP was a "well-prepared" high school grad who was capable of reaching 1-12. But I would absolutely wager that a kid that is prepared out of high school for the responsibilities of teaching children is the exception rather than the rule.

How many homeschooling parents are so well-prepared? That's right, **you don't know**. Abuse, incompetence, idiots run rampant and unchecked. Look at the Turpins

You can't compare the worst of the homeschooling to an average public school. Compare it to reality. D is a passing grade in many school districts and you get it for just showing up in some schools. It is scary inside some of them, scary even in elementary. Do you really think that a school where less than 20% of students are proficient in math or English is a better option? I guess one does learn a trade like selling drugs by the end of it. Those schools are nothing but "babysitting" services while parents work.


That is not the "reality" for the vast majority of public schools and I doubt all of you homeschoolers live in an inner city failing school.



I've been an educator for a long time and worked many years in both rural and inner city areas with a lot of poverty. Probably not the majority, but is indeed the reality for MANY public schools.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I received an excellent 1-12 education. I learned nothing in college. Not sure why OP thinks 4 year degree is needed to teach 1-12.


I don’t believe that you went to college, but I do believe that you watch a LOT of Fox News. Enjoy living in your own manipulated ignorance.


NP.

*shrug* I have two Master's degrees (cross my heart), and neither of them is of any use to me. I can safely say that I learned nothing of essence in college LOL

I don't have cable TV, so don't bother with the Fox News bashing.

Enjoy living in your own, heavily manipulated, I assure you, ignorance


College teaches you critical thinking and exposes you to all sorts of ideologies and philosophies, not just facts and figures. Did you really not get anything out of college?


Is the PP really arguing that you don't need a college degree to teach 1-12? I mean, why do we require elementary teachers to have teaching degrees? I'll make an argument to the school board that we can just start recruiting from the local McDonald's.

SMDH

The graduates go to work in McDonald's, so there is no problem. Not everyone is capable of sitting a cubicle.


So yes, we can get high school graduates without a college degree from McD's to teach 6th grade?

Not sure about cubicles, but you sure prove the point that not everyone is capable of basic brain functions.

Why so serious?
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Why do homeschooled kids outperform the national average by a wide margin on standardized tests?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do homeschooled kids outperform the national average by a wide margin on standardized tests?



Citation
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Anonymous wrote:What’s your point OP? This thread demonstrates that a wide variety of people choose homeschooling. It’s like asking why wealthy people send their kids to public school...


This is OP. You clearly have reading comprehension issues because you did not understand my question. I asked why uneducated Americans homeschool. I know there educated people out there who homeschool but it's not what I wanted to discuss.


Ahhh...so you just wanted to begin a thread for the purpose of bashing a certain group of people without hearing positive comments about homeschooling parents.


OP clearly has underlying issues and I’m beginning to think troll.



Disagree completely. It’s a valid, perplexing question. I guess the answer just is that stupid people make stupid decisions.


Exactly. It’s not trolling when most of the thread is on the same page.




Most of the thread is on the same page: spouting misconceptions, generalities and misinformation as if they are facts. Most of you don't know any or enough homeschoolers to even speak on the subject. The reality is that there are as many reasons for homeschooling as there are homeschoolers.

Do you think that homeschooling parents, especially the educated ones, judge parents who send their kids to traditional schools?
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From research homeschooled kids are from better environments, more educated parents and fewer divorced parents. That's why the kids are smarter. Interestingly they watch less tv too.


According to Burns, homeschoolers are more likely to come from homes with educated parents and higher incomes. Homeschooling parents are less likely to divorce (which is true of higher income couples in general). Homeschooled kids watch less television. All of this results in higher academic achievement. As a result, Burns says that there is "inconclusive evidence of the actual quality of homeschool instruction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DP. There are actually a bunch of us who think homeschooling is by and large terrible for the kids involved, if only that they can't get what they need to survive in life. And FYI, it's great that PP was a "well-prepared" high school grad who was capable of reaching 1-12. But I would absolutely wager that a kid that is prepared out of high school for the responsibilities of teaching children is the exception rather than the rule.

How many homeschooling parents are so well-prepared? That's right, **you don't know**. Abuse, incompetence, idiots run rampant and unchecked. Look at the Turpins

You can't compare the worst of the homeschooling to an average public school. Compare it to reality. D is a passing grade in many school districts and you get it for just showing up in some schools. It is scary inside some of them, scary even in elementary. Do you really think that a school where less than 20% of students are proficient in math or English is a better option? I guess one does learn a trade like selling drugs by the end of it. Those schools are nothing but "babysitting" services while parents work.


That is not the "reality" for the vast majority of public schools and I doubt all of you homeschoolers live in an inner city failing school.



I've been an educator for a long time and worked many years in both rural and inner city areas with a lot of poverty. Probably not the majority, but is indeed the reality for MANY public schools.


Great, then it shouldn't be a problem for there to be standards for parents who homeschool. I mean, if we are looking at public school performance being poor, lets make sure the homeschooled kids are being better served. No problem right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your point OP? This thread demonstrates that a wide variety of people choose homeschooling. It’s like asking why wealthy people send their kids to public school...


This is OP. You clearly have reading comprehension issues because you did not understand my question. I asked why uneducated Americans homeschool. I know there educated people out there who homeschool but it's not what I wanted to discuss.


Ahhh...so you just wanted to begin a thread for the purpose of bashing a certain group of people without hearing positive comments about homeschooling parents.


OP clearly has underlying issues and I’m beginning to think troll.



Disagree completely. It’s a valid, perplexing question. I guess the answer just is that stupid people make stupid decisions.


Exactly. It’s not trolling when most of the thread is on the same page.




Most of the thread is on the same page: spouting misconceptions, generalities and misinformation as if they are facts. Most of you don't know any or enough homeschoolers to even speak on the subject. The reality is that there are as many reasons for homeschooling as there are homeschoolers.

Do you think that homeschooling parents, especially the educated ones, judge parents who send their kids to traditional schools?


Why are you chiming in? This is about *uneducated* homeschool parents. You can't argue that there aren't states where communities of nutjobs have sprung up to unschool their kids where basically nothing structured is happening. Child abuse.
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Anonymous wrote:From research homeschooled kids are from better environments, more educated parents and fewer divorced parents. That's why the kids are smarter. Interestingly they watch less tv too.


According to Burns, homeschoolers are more likely to come from homes with educated parents and higher incomes. Homeschooling parents are less likely to divorce (which is true of higher income couples in general). Homeschooled kids watch less television. All of this results in higher academic achievement. As a result, Burns says that there is "inconclusive evidence of the actual quality of homeschool instruction.[/quote


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