Gilmore Girls A Year in the Life

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch GG when it was on, but just watched the whole series + YITL. Overall, I think the reboot fits nicely, but I will say Lorelai's Face is really distracting, Rory's character is no longer charming, and there were a few WTFs that were out of character (like Lorelai doing some weird cardio / weight thing with a tiny top ponytail to get into her wedding dress? No.).

To PPs freaked out about Rory drinking at the SHG office mid-day: it was clearly the former editor's liquor, he obviously kept two glasses there, and anyone who says this is so 70s hasn't worked recently at a small-town newspaper.

It's totally believable that a trust-fund baby like Rory wouldn't have a FT job at 32, but would instead be trying to find a passion project.

Emily's character isn't supposed to make us think Richard made her miserable. She's just realizing after his death what truly matters and is able to drop the facade for once. I love her.

Logan would probably drop everything and be with Rory, but she's already turned him down.

Nobody has worked lately in a small town newspaper "recently." They don't exist any more. They're online or long gone in a puff of smoke. Seriously, are you just discovering Facebook?

Nope, I've been writing for a small-town newspaper.

Can I ask you how you got this job? NP, but it sounds like a total dream. Can you tell me a bit what it's like?

Degree in English / journalism. Willing to work for pennies, without benefits, in a crumbling office. Free tickets to any county fair or tractor pull I want.

I do meet some cool people, and having a beer or three at lunch is not unheard of.

Is this is the midwest or east coast? Not trying to get details just wondering if it might feasible near me

Why PP? It sounds dismal and sad.

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I started out in small newspapers a few decades ago. PP is right: the pay is abysmal, but in my experience there was a lot of camaraderie in the staff and freedom to do what you want.

Fast forward to today, there are still some small papers left, but in the real world I don't think there are any Stars Hollows.

I'm still a journalist, but for a specialized newspaper, where the pay is better (but not great), and I feel I'm learning new things every day...and even got to meet Lauren Graham last month at press event!

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch GG when it was on, but just watched the whole series + YITL. Overall, I think the reboot fits nicely, but I will say Lorelai's Face is really distracting, Rory's character is no longer charming, and there were a few WTFs that were out of character (like Lorelai doing some weird cardio / weight thing with a tiny top ponytail to get into her wedding dress? No.).

To PPs freaked out about Rory drinking at the SHG office mid-day: it was clearly the former editor's liquor, he obviously kept two glasses there, and anyone who says this is so 70s hasn't worked recently at a small-town newspaper.

It's totally believable that a trust-fund baby like Rory wouldn't have a FT job at 32, but would instead be trying to find a passion project.

Emily's character isn't supposed to make us think Richard made her miserable. She's just realizing after his death what truly matters and is able to drop the facade for once. I love her.

Logan would probably drop everything and be with Rory, but she's already turned him down.

Nobody has worked lately in a small town newspaper "recently." They don't exist any more. They're online or long gone in a puff of smoke. Seriously, are you just discovering Facebook?

Nope, I've been writing for a small-town newspaper.

Can I ask you how you got this job? NP, but it sounds like a total dream. Can you tell me a bit what it's like?

Degree in English / journalism. Willing to work for pennies, without benefits, in a crumbling office. Free tickets to any county fair or tractor pull I want.

I do meet some cool people, and having a beer or three at lunch is not unheard of.

Is this is the midwest or east coast? Not trying to get details just wondering if it might feasible near me

Why PP? It sounds dismal and sad.

Not to me, obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch GG when it was on, but just watched the whole series + YITL. Overall, I think the reboot fits nicely, but I will say Lorelai's Face is really distracting, Rory's character is no longer charming, and there were a few WTFs that were out of character (like Lorelai doing some weird cardio / weight thing with a tiny top ponytail to get into her wedding dress? No.).

To PPs freaked out about Rory drinking at the SHG office mid-day: it was clearly the former editor's liquor, he obviously kept two glasses there, and anyone who says this is so 70s hasn't worked recently at a small-town newspaper.

It's totally believable that a trust-fund baby like Rory wouldn't have a FT job at 32, but would instead be trying to find a passion project.

Emily's character isn't supposed to make us think Richard made her miserable. She's just realizing after his death what truly matters and is able to drop the facade for once. I love her.

Logan would probably drop everything and be with Rory, but she's already turned him down.

Nobody has worked lately in a small town newspaper "recently." They don't exist any more. They're online or long gone in a puff of smoke. Seriously, are you just discovering Facebook?

Nope, I've been writing for a small-town newspaper.

Can I ask you how you got this job? NP, but it sounds like a total dream. Can you tell me a bit what it's like?

Degree in English / journalism. Willing to work for pennies, without benefits, in a crumbling office. Free tickets to any county fair or tractor pull I want.

I do meet some cool people, and having a beer or three at lunch is not unheard of.

Is this is the midwest or east coast? Not trying to get details just wondering if it might feasible near me

Why PP? It sounds dismal and sad.

Not to me, obviously.

Well, you can be a functioning alcoholic almost anywhere doing anything. I wouldn't waste the time and money on a degree in journalism to achieve this goal.

I've known many people who worked for small papers during the 80s through today--one even ended up at the Globe and some still work as journalists for papers although they are mostly online. However, drinking at your desk and/or during the day was never part of the culture.

If you're just looking to work in a small town and be your own boss, consider something practical--dog groomer, plumber. Journalists like actors need to supplement their incomes unless they hit the big time.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally watched all the episodes.

So first - annoyed that there is speculation that baby could be the wookie. That was 6 months ago - she is tiny and would have known before November 5. It's Logan's - and the conversation with her dad proves it - as well as a quote from ASP the head writer who says "all girls have daddy issues and logan is rory's christopher."

I like the full circle (or "full freakin' circle" as Lorelia shouts to her mom in either the winter or spring episode) that Logan is Rory's Chris and will probably be vaguely involved while Rory raises the kid. I also think she will end up with Jess like Luke and Lorelai - fits and starts while she focuses first on being a mom and her writing and then finally gets together with him later like Lorelai does. I do think Jess and Rory will have a baby and she will get the more traditional start-to-finish raising a family with someone than her mom did.

I think people are being too hard on Rory. I was THRILLED that they had her be a professional, working, mildly successful journalist, and that they didn't pull a One Tree Hill (that show flashed forward five years in its last season and every main character was wildly famous and successful - professional basketball player! famous singer on a world tour turned teacher! best-selling novelist! and CEO of a global fashion empire who dresses all the hollywood celebs! SOOO DUMB).

Totally realistic that Rory joined the millions of us who were very high achieving young women who went to the best colleges, graduated at the top of our class, and went on to careers but didn't become famous or even notable. Had mild successes along the way. And I love that they worked in the millennial entitlement that because she was talented, smart, and worked really hard she would be super successful top-of-her-field. Just not how life works.

I would have been pissed if Rory had ended up pregnant at the end of college. If that is what the creators intended, I think that is weak. I LOVE that she was 32 when it happened - the exact age her mom was when she started the series. Rory got to have more than her mom - the Yale education, the decade long career. And it's pretty clear the book is going to be successful and she can live out her dream of being a writer, at least for a little while longer.

I think it's full circle and I think Rory will be happy being a single mom for years like her mom does until she settles down with Jess down the road as L. did with Luke. Agree that musicals were too much and HATED the entire LDB scene. Love that Emily got to find a different role for herself - she struggled during the original series with being "just a wife" and she got to in a sense break free and put on sneakers and volunteer at the museum. Really loved that.

I agree with a lot of the above. I loved just seeing the characters again and their interactions. Was it perfect, no, but it was enjoyable.

I think it hit many true notes.

A lot of moms who have kids young consider having kids again late in life, especially if they are married to someone else. And for some of them, their kids end up pregnant and then they opt just to be happy being a grandma instead. That's likely what would happen with Lorelai now that Rory's pregnant.

I think the reboot was a great mix of each character growing up a bit/maturing and still being true to the characters we loved. Lorelai working out so she can eat ice cream and fit into her wedding dress? Totally believable - she's never not going to eat ice cream, so she does what it takes to do that and fit in the dress. Just like she did when she left home because she wanted to live her life a certain way and ended up being a single mom living in a shack cleaning rooms. She could have stayed with her parents and lived a much easier life, but it wasn't what she wanted. I also think the reason Luke and Lorelai didn't talk about having kids earlier is because they were just happy to be together - they knew they came close to not being together. And so while Luke wanted kids, he didn't push it because what he wanted most was Lorelai. When Lorelai then pursues surrogacy and getting married, it's showing that she's finally growing up and putting Luke first. And she's getting married because she no longer is rejecting the life her parents wanted for her - she's lost her dad and she's not rebelling.

Rory finds herself at a crossroads in her career. It's not turning out how she wanted and she could have taken the teaching job, but it's not what she wanted. I don't think she thought it was beneath her - it just wasn't what she wanted, and she wasn't at a point where she had to give up her dream of being a writer. Though, I would bet if there were a spinoff, she would be a single mom raising her daughter (because you know it would have to be a girl) and working at Chilton. She would likely choose this road now that she's pregnant because she's finally at the point where she has to do what it takes because she's having a baby. It's clear she won't be relying on Logan or her dad, as evidenced by her conversation with Christopher. She's making choices and growing up a bit. (And part of me really wants them to make a spinoff.)

I loved what they did with Emily. I saw her as welcoming her maid's family into the house in part because she was lonely and in part because she was used to having someone to take care of. And when she moved and took the job at the museum, it wasn't a rejection of her old life, but choosing something new for herself. She was never going to want to try to have the same life as she had with Richard - it would have been impossible because no one could replace Richard for her and his death changed her.

I liked seeing all of the other characters. I would have liked to see more of them, but, really, we were just supposed to be getting glimpses because they were all bit players and this was supposed to be about the Gilmore Girls.

One last thing - I think Logan and Rory will always love each other, as a parallel to Lorelai and Christopher always loving each other, but not being right for each other. That's why Logan is marrying his fiancée. Because he accepted that Rory turned him down, but moved on with the life he was supposed to lead according to his family. Seeing Rory on the side is his rebelling. But a lot of rich trust fund kids do this - marry and live the life they're supposed to according to their families in order to get all of the trappings promised to them, and then having affairs for themselves. It's a perfect foil to further cement what Lorelai rejected and that Rory rejects the mistress role Logan wants for her also.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally watched all the episodes.

So first - annoyed that there is speculation that baby could be the wookie. That was 6 months ago - she is tiny and would have known before November 5. It's Logan's - and the conversation with her dad proves it - as well as a quote from ASP the head writer who says "all girls have daddy issues and logan is rory's christopher."

I like the full circle (or "full freakin' circle" as Lorelia shouts to her mom in either the winter or spring episode) that Logan is Rory's Chris and will probably be vaguely involved while Rory raises the kid. I also think she will end up with Jess like Luke and Lorelai - fits and starts while she focuses first on being a mom and her writing and then finally gets together with him later like Lorelai does. I do think Jess and Rory will have a baby and she will get the more traditional start-to-finish raising a family with someone than her mom did.

I think people are being too hard on Rory. I was THRILLED that they had her be a professional, working, mildly successful journalist, and that they didn't pull a One Tree Hill (that show flashed forward five years in its last season and every main character was wildly famous and successful - professional basketball player! famous singer on a world tour turned teacher! best-selling novelist! and CEO of a global fashion empire who dresses all the hollywood celebs! SOOO DUMB).

Totally realistic that Rory joined the millions of us who were very high achieving young women who went to the best colleges, graduated at the top of our class, and went on to careers but didn't become famous or even notable. Had mild successes along the way. And I love that they worked in the millennial entitlement that because she was talented, smart, and worked really hard she would be super successful top-of-her-field. Just not how life works.

I would have been pissed if Rory had ended up pregnant at the end of college. If that is what the creators intended, I think that is weak. I LOVE that she was 32 when it happened - the exact age her mom was when she started the series. Rory got to have more than her mom - the Yale education, the decade long career. And it's pretty clear the book is going to be successful and she can live out her dream of being a writer, at least for a little while longer.

I think it's full circle and I think Rory will be happy being a single mom for years like her mom does until she settles down with Jess down the road as L. did with Luke. Agree that musicals were too much and HATED the entire LDB scene. Love that Emily got to find a different role for herself - she struggled during the original series with being "just a wife" and she got to in a sense break free and put on sneakers and volunteer at the museum. Really loved that.

I agree with a lot of the above. I loved just seeing the characters again and their interactions. Was it perfect, no, but it was enjoyable.

I think it hit many true notes.

A lot of moms who have kids young consider having kids again late in life, especially if they are married to someone else. And for some of them, their kids end up pregnant and then they opt just to be happy being a grandma instead. That's likely what would happen with Lorelai now that Rory's pregnant.

I think the reboot was a great mix of each character growing up a bit/maturing and still being true to the characters we loved. Lorelai working out so she can eat ice cream and fit into her wedding dress? Totally believable - she's never not going to eat ice cream, so she does what it takes to do that and fit in the dress. Just like she did when she left home because she wanted to live her life a certain way and ended up being a single mom living in a shack cleaning rooms. She could have stayed with her parents and lived a much easier life, but it wasn't what she wanted. I also think the reason Luke and Lorelai didn't talk about having kids earlier is because they were just happy to be together - they knew they came close to not being together. And so while Luke wanted kids, he didn't push it because what he wanted most was Lorelai. When Lorelai then pursues surrogacy and getting married, it's showing that she's finally growing up and putting Luke first. And she's getting married because she no longer is rejecting the life her parents wanted for her - she's lost her dad and she's not rebelling.

Rory finds herself at a crossroads in her career. It's not turning out how she wanted and she could have taken the teaching job, but it's not what she wanted. I don't think she thought it was beneath her - it just wasn't what she wanted, and she wasn't at a point where she had to give up her dream of being a writer. Though, I would bet if there were a spinoff, she would be a single mom raising her daughter (because you know it would have to be a girl) and working at Chilton. She would likely choose this road now that she's pregnant because she's finally at the point where she has to do what it takes because she's having a baby. It's clear she won't be relying on Logan or her dad, as evidenced by her conversation with Christopher. She's making choices and growing up a bit. (And part of me really wants them to make a spinoff.)

I loved what they did with Emily. I saw her as welcoming her maid's family into the house in part because she was lonely and in part because she was used to having someone to take care of. And when she moved and took the job at the museum, it wasn't a rejection of her old life, but choosing something new for herself. She was never going to want to try to have the same life as she had with Richard - it would have been impossible because no one could replace Richard for her and his death changed her.

I liked seeing all of the other characters. I would have liked to see more of them, but, really, we were just supposed to be getting glimpses because they were all bit players and this was supposed to be about the Gilmore Girls.

One last thing - I think Logan and Rory will always love each other, as a parallel to Lorelai and Christopher always loving each other, but not being right for each other. That's why Logan is marrying his fiancée. Because he accepted that Rory turned him down, but moved on with the life he was supposed to lead according to his family. Seeing Rory on the side is his rebelling. But a lot of rich trust fund kids do this - marry and live the life they're supposed to according to their families in order to get all of the trappings promised to them, and then having affairs for themselves. It's a perfect foil to further cement what Lorelai rejected and that Rory rejects the mistress role Logan wants for her also.

Hmmm PP. I hated the reunion/reboot or whatever they are calling it, but reading what you wrote makes sense. I like your perspective. A lot!

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Anonymous wrote:Finally watched all the episodes.

So first - annoyed that there is speculation that baby could be the wookie. That was 6 months ago - she is tiny and would have known before November 5. It's Logan's - and the conversation with her dad proves it - as well as a quote from ASP the head writer who says "all girls have daddy issues and logan is rory's christopher."

I like the full circle (or "full freakin' circle" as Lorelia shouts to her mom in either the winter or spring episode) that Logan is Rory's Chris and will probably be vaguely involved while Rory raises the kid. I also think she will end up with Jess like Luke and Lorelai - fits and starts while she focuses first on being a mom and her writing and then finally gets together with him later like Lorelai does. I do think Jess and Rory will have a baby and she will get the more traditional start-to-finish raising a family with someone than her mom did.

I think people are being too hard on Rory. I was THRILLED that they had her be a professional, working, mildly successful journalist, and that they didn't pull a One Tree Hill (that show flashed forward five years in its last season and every main character was wildly famous and successful - professional basketball player! famous singer on a world tour turned teacher! best-selling novelist! and CEO of a global fashion empire who dresses all the hollywood celebs! SOOO DUMB).

Totally realistic that Rory joined the millions of us who were very high achieving young women who went to the best colleges, graduated at the top of our class, and went on to careers but didn't become famous or even notable. Had mild successes along the way. And I love that they worked in the millennial entitlement that because she was talented, smart, and worked really hard she would be super successful top-of-her-field. Just not how life works.

I would have been pissed if Rory had ended up pregnant at the end of college. If that is what the creators intended, I think that is weak. I LOVE that she was 32 when it happened - the exact age her mom was when she started the series. Rory got to have more than her mom - the Yale education, the decade long career. And it's pretty clear the book is going to be successful and she can live out her dream of being a writer, at least for a little while longer.

I think it's full circle and I think Rory will be happy being a single mom for years like her mom does until she settles down with Jess down the road as L. did with Luke. Agree that musicals were too much and HATED the entire LDB scene. Love that Emily got to find a different role for herself - she struggled during the original series with being "just a wife" and she got to in a sense break free and put on sneakers and volunteer at the museum. Really loved that.

I agree with a lot of the above. I loved just seeing the characters again and their interactions. Was it perfect, no, but it was enjoyable.

I think it hit many true notes. --*Seriously?

A lot of moms who have kids young consider having kids again late in life, especially if they are married to someone else. And for some of them, their kids end up pregnant and then they opt just to be happy being a grandma instead. That's likely what would happen with Lorelai now that Rory's pregnant.

*You really know zip about teen mothers. GG is completely idealized and in no way represents the experience of most teen moms:

"Adolescent pregnancy and parenthood are closely associated with a host of social and economic issues that affect teen parents, their children and society. Teenage mothers are less likely to finish high school and are more likely to live in poverty, depend on public assistance, and be in poor health than slightly older mothers. Their children are more likely to suffer health and cognitive disadvantages, come in contact with the child welfare and correctional systems, live in poverty, drop out of high school and become teen parents themselves..."
http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/teen-pregnancy-prevention.aspx

I think the reboot was a great mix of each character growing up a bit/maturing and still being true to the characters we loved. Lorelai working out so she can eat ice cream and fit into her wedding dress? Totally believable - she's never not going to eat ice cream, so she does what it takes to do that and fit in the dress. Just like she did when she left home because she wanted to live her life a certain way and ended up being a single mom living in a shack cleaning rooms. She could have stayed with her parents and lived a much easier life, but it wasn't what she wanted. I also think the reason Luke and Lorelai didn't talk about having kids earlier is because they were just happy to be together - they knew they came close to not being together. And so while Luke wanted kids, he didn't push it because what he wanted most was Lorelai. When Lorelai then pursues surrogacy and getting married, it's showing that she's finally growing up and putting Luke first. And she's getting married because she no longer is rejecting the life her parents wanted for her - she's lost her dad and she's not rebelling.

*mature people have these conversations b/f they get married
*The character and the actress are nearly 50 years old. WTF "rebelling/finally growing up?" Yeah, let's hope so.

Rory finds herself at a crossroads in her career. It's not turning out how she wanted and she could have taken the teaching job, but it's not what she wanted. I don't think she thought it was beneath her - it just wasn't what she wanted, and she wasn't at a point where she had to give up her dream of being a writer. Though, I would bet if there were a spinoff, she would be a single mom raising her daughter (because you know it would have to be a girl) and working at Chilton. She would likely choose this road now that she's pregnant because she's finally at the point where she has to do what it takes because she's having a baby. It's clear she won't be relying on Logan or her dad, as evidenced by her conversation with Christopher. She's making choices and growing up a bit. (And part of me really wants them to make a spinoff.)

*If there is a God, then there won't be.

I loved what they did with Emily. I saw her as welcoming her maid's family into the house in part because she was lonely and in part because she was used to having someone to take care of. And when she moved and took the job at the museum, it wasn't a rejection of her old life, but choosing something new for herself. She was never going to want to try to have the same life as she had with Richard - it would have been impossible because no one could replace Richard for her and his death changed her.

I liked seeing all of the other characters. I would have liked to see more of them, but, really, we were just supposed to be getting glimpses because they were all bit players and this was supposed to be about the Gilmore Girls.

One last thing - I think Logan and Rory will always love each other, as a parallel to Lorelai and Christopher always loving each other, but not being right for each other. That's why Logan is marrying his fiancée. Because he accepted that Rory turned him down, but moved on with the life he was supposed to lead according to his family. Seeing Rory on the side is his rebelling. But a lot of rich trust fund kids do this - marry and live the life they're supposed to according to their families in order to get all of the trappings promised to them, and then having affairs for themselves. It's a perfect foil to further cement what Lorelai rejected and that Rory rejects the mistress role Logan wants for her also.

*I can't imagine you know a lot of rich, trust fund kids. Rory is a trust fund kid also. Richard's mother left her a mint:
Richard mentions Rory receiving her trust fund in season 6 when she's 25
http://gilmoregirls.wikia.com/wiki/Lorelai_%22Trix%22_Gilmore

So why Rory was couch surfing and crying about being poor is a mystery, and again just show how insipid the reboot was.

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I really disliked the first three episodes, felt very disappointed by how flat and unconvincing the reboot felt (other than Kelly Bishop's wonderful arc). But it started to come to life for me in the 4th episode. Lorelai was great in the last one imo, her phone call to her mom and speech to Luke. The writing was zippy and fun like the old days, too. I liked the Logan/Christopher, Luke/Jess parallel, and the idea of coming full circle. Normally, I'd be clamoring for a spin-off, but Alexis Bledel is such a deadly-dull actress, I couldn't stand it. Stars Hollow as a kind of Mayberry completely out of touch with the hard, complicated world we live in now no longer feels plausible either.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally watched all the episodes.

So first - annoyed that there is speculation that baby could be the wookie. That was 6 months ago - she is tiny and would have known before November 5. It's Logan's - and the conversation with her dad proves it - as well as a quote from ASP the head writer who says "all girls have daddy issues and logan is rory's christopher."

I like the full circle (or "full freakin' circle" as Lorelia shouts to her mom in either the winter or spring episode) that Logan is Rory's Chris and will probably be vaguely involved while Rory raises the kid. I also think she will end up with Jess like Luke and Lorelai - fits and starts while she focuses first on being a mom and her writing and then finally gets together with him later like Lorelai does. I do think Jess and Rory will have a baby and she will get the more traditional start-to-finish raising a family with someone than her mom did.

I think people are being too hard on Rory. I was THRILLED that they had her be a professional, working, mildly successful journalist, and that they didn't pull a One Tree Hill (that show flashed forward five years in its last season and every main character was wildly famous and successful - professional basketball player! famous singer on a world tour turned teacher! best-selling novelist! and CEO of a global fashion empire who dresses all the hollywood celebs! SOOO DUMB).

Totally realistic that Rory joined the millions of us who were very high achieving young women who went to the best colleges, graduated at the top of our class, and went on to careers but didn't become famous or even notable. Had mild successes along the way. And I love that they worked in the millennial entitlement that because she was talented, smart, and worked really hard she would be super successful top-of-her-field. Just not how life works.

I would have been pissed if Rory had ended up pregnant at the end of college. If that is what the creators intended, I think that is weak. I LOVE that she was 32 when it happened - the exact age her mom was when she started the series. Rory got to have more than her mom - the Yale education, the decade long career. And it's pretty clear the book is going to be successful and she can live out her dream of being a writer, at least for a little while longer.

I think it's full circle and I think Rory will be happy being a single mom for years like her mom does until she settles down with Jess down the road as L. did with Luke. Agree that musicals were too much and HATED the entire LDB scene. Love that Emily got to find a different role for herself - she struggled during the original series with being "just a wife" and she got to in a sense break free and put on sneakers and volunteer at the museum. Really loved that.

I agree with a lot of the above. I loved just seeing the characters again and their interactions. Was it perfect, no, but it was enjoyable.

I think it hit many true notes. --*Seriously?

A lot of moms who have kids young consider having kids again late in life, especially if they are married to someone else. And for some of them, their kids end up pregnant and then they opt just to be happy being a grandma instead. That's likely what would happen with Lorelai now that Rory's pregnant.

*You really know zip about teen mothers. GG is completely idealized and in no way represents the experience of most teen moms:
Gilmore Girls is not a documentary - it's a drama. That being said, it's *one* (fictional) story. I don't recall hearing that the creators intended it to be the story of a typical teen mom. In fact, I would bet they'd tell you it was never a typical teen mom story. While I agree most teen mothers don't have wealthy parents against whom they are rebelling and run away to a small town, the story is very plausible. That Lorelai rebelled, figured she could make it on her own, did make it on her own, and then re-connected with her parents when she wanted to help her child, is very plausible.

"Adolescent pregnancy and parenthood are closely associated with a host of social and economic issues that affect teen parents, their children and society. Teenage mothers are less likely to finish high school and are more likely to live in poverty, depend on public assistance, and be in poor health than slightly older mothers. Their children are more likely to suffer health and cognitive disadvantages, come in contact with the child welfare and correctional systems, live in poverty, drop out of high school and become teen parents themselves..."
http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/teen-pregnancy-prevention.aspx

I think the reboot was a great mix of each character growing up a bit/maturing and still being true to the characters we loved. Lorelai working out so she can eat ice cream and fit into her wedding dress? Totally believable - she's never not going to eat ice cream, so she does what it takes to do that and fit in the dress. Just like she did when she left home because she wanted to live her life a certain way and ended up being a single mom living in a shack cleaning rooms. She could have stayed with her parents and lived a much easier life, but it wasn't what she wanted. I also think the reason Luke and Lorelai didn't talk about having kids earlier is because they were just happy to be together - they knew they came close to not being together. And so while Luke wanted kids, he didn't push it because what he wanted most was Lorelai. When Lorelai then pursues surrogacy and getting married, it's showing that she's finally growing up and putting Luke first. And she's getting married because she no longer is rejecting the life her parents wanted for her - she's lost her dad and she's not rebelling.

*mature people have these conversations b/f they get married Right. Exactly my point. Lorelai was not fully mature and had not resolved her issues even though she was as old as she was portrayed to be. You seem to be suggesting that everyone of a certain age or everyone who gets married is automatically mature and making mature, fully-briefed decisions. If so, yours is the viewpoint that isn't ringing true.
*The character and the actress are nearly 50 years old. WTF "rebelling/finally growing up?" Yeah, let's hope so.

Rory finds herself at a crossroads in her career. It's not turning out how she wanted and she could have taken the teaching job, but it's not what she wanted. I don't think she thought it was beneath her - it just wasn't what she wanted, and she wasn't at a point where she had to give up her dream of being a writer. Though, I would bet if there were a spinoff, she would be a single mom raising her daughter (because you know it would have to be a girl) and working at Chilton. She would likely choose this road now that she's pregnant because she's finally at the point where she has to do what it takes because she's having a baby. It's clear she won't be relying on Logan or her dad, as evidenced by her conversation with Christopher. She's making choices and growing up a bit. (And part of me really wants them to make a spinoff.)

*If there is a God, then there won't be. Then by all means don't watch it.

I loved what they did with Emily. I saw her as welcoming her maid's family into the house in part because she was lonely and in part because she was used to having someone to take care of. And when she moved and took the job at the museum, it wasn't a rejection of her old life, but choosing something new for herself. She was never going to want to try to have the same life as she had with Richard - it would have been impossible because no one could replace Richard for her and his death changed her.

I liked seeing all of the other characters. I would have liked to see more of them, but, really, we were just supposed to be getting glimpses because they were all bit players and this was supposed to be about the Gilmore Girls.

One last thing - I think Logan and Rory will always love each other, as a parallel to Lorelai and Christopher always loving each other, but not being right for each other. That's why Logan is marrying his fiancée. Because he accepted that Rory turned him down, but moved on with the life he was supposed to lead according to his family. Seeing Rory on the side is his rebelling. But a lot of rich trust fund kids do this - marry and live the life they're supposed to according to their families in order to get all of the trappings promised to them, and then having affairs for themselves. It's a perfect foil to further cement what Lorelai rejected and that Rory rejects the mistress role Logan wants for her also.

*I can't imagine you know a lot of rich, trust fund kids. Rory is a trust fund kid also. Richard's mother left her a mint:
Richard mentions Rory receiving her trust fund in season 6 when she's 25
http://gilmoregirls.wikia.com/wiki/Lorelai_%22Trix%22_Gilmore

So why Rory was couch surfing and crying about being poor is a mystery, and again just show how insipid the reboot was. Yes, of course she had a trust fund, but we have no idea how much it is. I got the distinct impression that it was nowhere near the Huntzberger-type level though. And, for all we know, the reason she wasn't using it was because she either invested it and wasn't touching it (so she had no cash flow from it) or she had a small cash flow from it but needed a job to cover her other expenses. Maybe she was trying to make it on her own.

Comments are in bolded italics above.

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I remember that it wasn't for sure she was going to get the trust fund. Even if it was, if any of this trust fund stuff was relevant, it should have been explicitly stated in AYITL.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally watched all the episodes.

So first - annoyed that there is speculation that baby could be the wookie. That was 6 months ago - she is tiny and would have known before November 5. It's Logan's - and the conversation with her dad proves it - as well as a quote from ASP the head writer who says "all girls have daddy issues and logan is rory's christopher."

I like the full circle (or "full freakin' circle" as Lorelia shouts to her mom in either the winter or spring episode) that Logan is Rory's Chris and will probably be vaguely involved while Rory raises the kid. I also think she will end up with Jess like Luke and Lorelai - fits and starts while she focuses first on being a mom and her writing and then finally gets together with him later like Lorelai does. I do think Jess and Rory will have a baby and she will get the more traditional start-to-finish raising a family with someone than her mom did.

I think people are being too hard on Rory. I was THRILLED that they had her be a professional, working, mildly successful journalist, and that they didn't pull a One Tree Hill (that show flashed forward five years in its last season and every main character was wildly famous and successful - professional basketball player! famous singer on a world tour turned teacher! best-selling novelist! and CEO of a global fashion empire who dresses all the hollywood celebs! SOOO DUMB).

Totally realistic that Rory joined the millions of us who were very high achieving young women who went to the best colleges, graduated at the top of our class, and went on to careers but didn't become famous or even notable. Had mild successes along the way. And I love that they worked in the millennial entitlement that because she was talented, smart, and worked really hard she would be super successful top-of-her-field. Just not how life works.

I would have been pissed if Rory had ended up pregnant at the end of college. If that is what the creators intended, I think that is weak. I LOVE that she was 32 when it happened - the exact age her mom was when she started the series. Rory got to have more than her mom - the Yale education, the decade long career. And it's pretty clear the book is going to be successful and she can live out her dream of being a writer, at least for a little while longer.

I think it's full circle and I think Rory will be happy being a single mom for years like her mom does until she settles down with Jess down the road as L. did with Luke. Agree that musicals were too much and HATED the entire LDB scene. Love that Emily got to find a different role for herself - she struggled during the original series with being "just a wife" and she got to in a sense break free and put on sneakers and volunteer at the museum. Really loved that.

I agree with a lot of the above. I loved just seeing the characters again and their interactions. Was it perfect, no, but it was enjoyable.

I think it hit many true notes. --*Seriously?

A lot of moms who have kids young consider having kids again late in life, especially if they are married to someone else. And for some of them, their kids end up pregnant and then they opt just to be happy being a grandma instead. That's likely what would happen with Lorelai now that Rory's pregnant.

*You really know zip about teen mothers. GG is completely idealized and in no way represents the experience of most teen moms:
Gilmore Girls is not a documentary - it's a drama. That being said, it's *one* (fictional) story. I don't recall hearing that the creators intended it to be the story of a typical teen mom. In fact, I would bet they'd tell you it was never a typical teen mom story. While I agree most teen mothers don't have wealthy parents against whom they are rebelling and run away to a small town, the story is very plausible. That Lorelai rebelled, figured she could make it on her own, did make it on her own, and then re-connected with her parents when she wanted to help her child, is very plausible.

"Adolescent pregnancy and parenthood are closely associated with a host of social and economic issues that affect teen parents, their children and society. Teenage mothers are less likely to finish high school and are more likely to live in poverty, depend on public assistance, and be in poor health than slightly older mothers. Their children are more likely to suffer health and cognitive disadvantages, come in contact with the child welfare and correctional systems, live in poverty, drop out of high school and become teen parents themselves..."
http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/teen-pregnancy-prevention.aspx

I think the reboot was a great mix of each character growing up a bit/maturing and still being true to the characters we loved. Lorelai working out so she can eat ice cream and fit into her wedding dress? Totally believable - she's never not going to eat ice cream, so she does what it takes to do that and fit in the dress. Just like she did when she left home because she wanted to live her life a certain way and ended up being a single mom living in a shack cleaning rooms. She could have stayed with her parents and lived a much easier life, but it wasn't what she wanted. I also think the reason Luke and Lorelai didn't talk about having kids earlier is because they were just happy to be together - they knew they came close to not being together. And so while Luke wanted kids, he didn't push it because what he wanted most was Lorelai. When Lorelai then pursues surrogacy and getting married, it's showing that she's finally growing up and putting Luke first. And she's getting married because she no longer is rejecting the life her parents wanted for her - she's lost her dad and she's not rebelling.

*mature people have these conversations b/f they get married Right. Exactly my point. Lorelai was not fully mature and had not resolved her issues even though she was as old as she was portrayed to be. You seem to be suggesting that everyone of a certain age or everyone who gets married is automatically mature and making mature, fully-briefed decisions. If so, yours is the viewpoint that isn't ringing true.
*The character and the actress are nearly 50 years old. WTF "rebelling/finally growing up?" Yeah, let's hope so.

Rory finds herself at a crossroads in her career. It's not turning out how she wanted and she could have taken the teaching job, but it's not what she wanted. I don't think she thought it was beneath her - it just wasn't what she wanted, and she wasn't at a point where she had to give up her dream of being a writer. Though, I would bet if there were a spinoff, she would be a single mom raising her daughter (because you know it would have to be a girl) and working at Chilton. She would likely choose this road now that she's pregnant because she's finally at the point where she has to do what it takes because she's having a baby. It's clear she won't be relying on Logan or her dad, as evidenced by her conversation with Christopher. She's making choices and growing up a bit. (And part of me really wants them to make a spinoff.)

*If there is a God, then there won't be. Then by all means don't watch it.

I loved what they did with Emily. I saw her as welcoming her maid's family into the house in part because she was lonely and in part because she was used to having someone to take care of. And when she moved and took the job at the museum, it wasn't a rejection of her old life, but choosing something new for herself. She was never going to want to try to have the same life as she had with Richard - it would have been impossible because no one could replace Richard for her and his death changed her.

I liked seeing all of the other characters. I would have liked to see more of them, but, really, we were just supposed to be getting glimpses because they were all bit players and this was supposed to be about the Gilmore Girls.

One last thing - I think Logan and Rory will always love each other, as a parallel to Lorelai and Christopher always loving each other, but not being right for each other. That's why Logan is marrying his fiancée. Because he accepted that Rory turned him down, but moved on with the life he was supposed to lead according to his family. Seeing Rory on the side is his rebelling. But a lot of rich trust fund kids do this - marry and live the life they're supposed to according to their families in order to get all of the trappings promised to them, and then having affairs for themselves. It's a perfect foil to further cement what Lorelai rejected and that Rory rejects the mistress role Logan wants for her also.

*I can't imagine you know a lot of rich, trust fund kids. Rory is a trust fund kid also. Richard's mother left her a mint:
Richard mentions Rory receiving her trust fund in season 6 when she's 25
http://gilmoregirls.wikia.com/wiki/Lorelai_%22Trix%22_Gilmore

So why Rory was couch surfing and crying about being poor is a mystery, and again just show how insipid the reboot was. Yes, of course she had a trust fund, but we have no idea how much it is. I got the distinct impression that it was nowhere near the Huntzberger-type level though. And, for all we know, the reason she wasn't using it was because she either invested it and wasn't touching it (so she had no cash flow from it) or she had a small cash flow from it but needed a job to cover her other expenses. Maybe she was trying to make it on her own.

Comments are in bolded italics above.

But she wasn't making it on her own. She snubbed paying jobs for the paper one, which had no salary. It doesn't matter if she was as Rich as the Huntzburgers, it's been obvious that the Gilmores were loaded and she and her mom were to inherit big bucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Rory: Emily Gilmore won this revival!!

That last episode, with her telling off the DAR, moving to the beach, and becoming a museum volunteer describing gruesome history of whaling techniques? That was amazing.

+1
I loved her story arc. I especially loved the scene when Lorelai called her from CA to tell her that memory of her dad. Emily's reaction made my heart burst.

That scene was the best of the entire 4 shows.

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Ok, so I'm a little late here. I've been "saving" the show to watch with my newborn and I just finished it at our 2am feeding last night.

Full disclosure: I didn't watch all of Gilmore Girls. I made it about halfway through before Lorelei became sufferable and I had to quit.

BUT...I actually liked the revival MUCH more than I liked any of the show! I didn't think it was bad at all.

But also, I was watching it in the middle of the night and may have been delusional.

I liked the Rory was unsuccessful. That seemed true to life for me. I hated how Rory got everything. I think successful girls fail all the time.

A few questions for you true fans:
-what was with the musicals?!?
-what with the gay pride parade mention at the town hall? Seemed like SUCH a non sequitur.
-why the Wild story line?