Yay - my husband finally left the Catholic Church!

[Anonymous]

I'll be impressed when he adopts the Flying Spaghetti Monster as his personal lord and savior. [eye roll at this thread and everyone in it]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll be impressed when he adopts the Flying Spaghetti Monster as his personal lord and savior. [eye roll at this thread and everyone in it]

Rolling your eyes at yourself - how interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow...people on DCUM are really way out of line. I haven't posted in this thread for a while now - I am the poster from Germany.

I am not an atheist.
I am not a Muslim.
I am not Jewish.
I have not posted in any other threads in the religion forum and have never said anything against Christians.
I am not the poster who replied after my post identifying myself as German.

I can NOT believe how many hateful assumptions are being made here. The only thing I have said is instead of focusing on getting each other out of each others religions and trying to get each other into our own religions - why don't we all focus on being as good of a person as we can be and serve God the best we can? That's all I said. I find all the hate quite amusing...it sure doesn't yell "Good Christian" to me.

And just to clarify: I am German. I am catholic. I firmly believe in God - I do not believe in the Church as an institution. I live my life the way I think God wants me to live it. Not the way some church tells me to. And that's what I wish everyone else would do. Then there wouldn't be so much hate and arguing between all the different churches and we could all go back to just being good Christians.

Nice, but your last sentence indicates that you're limiting your concept of how to live with less hate and arguing to people who believe in a Christian God. Did you mean to exclude non-christians and non-religious people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Well I think any religion with a deep history and specific tenets has this effect. It's just that the Catholic religion overlaps with so many others as they are also Christian. Maybe people don't have the same foundation to criticize Orthodox Judaism or the Muslim religion.

Yes, but if you are a Christian, you are talking about only three: Catholicism, and the Greek and Russian Orthodox churches. The rest are Protestant, and one of the main points of the Protestant Reformation was the Priesthood of All Believers. As far as reasons for protestant faiths, it's a pretty big deal, and it means that things like the detailed catechism we all learned don't exist.

My point was that most believers criticizing Catholics are ironically other Christians and I was theorizing that it's because Catholicism has enough overlap that a fellow Christian can say 'Yeah, I agreed with you all the way up until THIS point and then you lost me.' because they have enough background to understand the basic beliefs of Christianity. Whereas Christians don't regularly criticize, for example, Orthodox Jews or Muslims in part because they don't have as much shared reference to begin with. It's almost like the other religions are so foreign that they cannot begin to mount a fully developed critique.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

And it hasn't happened this time either. There is just this one poster who feels the need to project her point of view on "everyone."

Actually, I'm a second poster who feels bad for OP's husband. I'm not Catholic and I'm not tempted to become Catholic - but OP's spite is pretty sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

And it hasn't happened this time either. There is just this one poster who feels the need to project her point of view on "everyone."

Actually, I'm a second poster who feels bad for OP's husband. I'm not Catholic and I'm not tempted to become Catholic - but OP's spite is pretty sad.

still not "everyone" and possibly not even a second poster, which only the moderator knows, by checking the unique IP address that accompanies each post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow...people on DCUM are really way out of line. I haven't posted in this thread for a while now - I am the poster from Germany.

I am not an atheist.
I am not a Muslim.
I am not Jewish.
I have not posted in any other threads in the religion forum and have never said anything against Christians.
I am not the poster who replied after my post identifying myself as German.

I can NOT believe how many hateful assumptions are being made here. The only thing I have said is instead of focusing on getting each other out of each others religions and trying to get each other into our own religions - why don't we all focus on being as good of a person as we can be and serve God the best we can? That's all I said. I find all the hate quite amusing...it sure doesn't yell "Good Christian" to me.

And just to clarify: I am German. I am catholic. I firmly believe in God - I do not believe in the Church as an institution. I live my life the way I think God wants me to live it. Not the way some church tells me to. And that's what I wish everyone else would do. Then there wouldn't be so much hate and arguing between all the different churches and we could all go back to just being good Christians.

Nope, you've out of line for quite some time. You've been snarky and disrespectful of several religions, even as you preen and pat yourself on the back about your "small c" catholicism. Also, your debating tactics are the pits: you consistently go straight for ad hominems (see your post above!) and you've blatently twisted what other posters said.

I don't have time to go back and collect a full inventory of your out of line snark (and several PPs besides me have agreed you're nasty) and your sleazy debating tactics, but here are a few things that come to mind. Ranting a few days ago about how the proliferation of US churches is "crazy" (your words) even as you boast above about creating your own version of Christianity (nonsensical, but whatever). Arguing that the Episcopal church has nothing more to offer than an annulment to Henry VII, as you ignore the posts about all the contemporary (Henry's time) debates about obeisance to Rome.

I frankly doubt you are who you say you are. Also, I too noticed the rude and snarky (just like you!) poster on the Older Chldren forum, lecturing to the rest of us about how Germany in your day allowed kids aged 16 to drink , just a few hours after you said were German here.

Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

And it hasn't happened this time either. There is just this one poster who feels the need to project her point of view on "everyone."

Actually, I'm a second poster who feels bad for OP's husband. I'm not Catholic and I'm not tempted to become Catholic - but OP's spite is pretty sad.

still not "everyone" and possibly not even a second poster, which only the moderator knows, by checking the unique IP address that accompanies each post.

You've GOT to be kidding. You really believe that only ONE poster finds you offensive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow...people on DCUM are really way out of line. I haven't posted in this thread for a while now - I am the poster from Germany.

I am not an atheist.
I am not a Muslim.
I am not Jewish.
I have not posted in any other threads in the religion forum and have never said anything against Christians.
I am not the poster who replied after my post identifying myself as German.

I can NOT believe how many hateful assumptions are being made here. The only thing I have said is instead of focusing on getting each other out of each others religions and trying to get each other into our own religions - why don't we all focus on being as good of a person as we can be and serve God the best we can? That's all I said. I find all the hate quite amusing...it sure doesn't yell "Good Christian" to me.

And just to clarify: I am German. I am catholic. I firmly believe in God - I do not believe in the Church as an institution. I live my life the way I think God wants me to live it. Not the way some church tells me to. And that's what I wish everyone else would do. Then there wouldn't be so much hate and arguing between all the different churches and we could all go back to just being good Christians.

Nope, you've out of line for quite some time. You've been snarky and disrespectful of several religions, even as you preen and pat yourself on the back about your "small c" catholicism. Also, your debating tactics are the pits: you consistently go straight for ad hominems (see your post above!) and you've blatently twisted what other posters said.

I don't have time to go back and collect a full inventory of your out of line snark (and several PPs besides me have agreed you're nasty) and your sleazy debating tactics, but here are a few things that come to mind. Ranting a few days ago about how the proliferation of US churches is "crazy" (your words) even as you boast above about creating your own version of Christianity (nonsensical, but whatever). Arguing that the Episcopal church has nothing more to offer than an annulment to Henry VII, as you ignore the posts about all the contemporary (Henry's time) debates about obeisance to Rome.

I frankly doubt you are who you say you are. Also, I too noticed the rude and snarky (just like you!) poster on the Older Chldren forum, lecturing to the rest of us about how Germany in your day allowed kids aged 16 to drink , just a few hours after you said were German here.

Grow up.

Thus Sayeth a Loving Christian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow...people on DCUM are really way out of line. I haven't posted in this thread for a while now - I am the poster from Germany.

I am not an atheist.
I am not a Muslim.
I am not Jewish.
I have not posted in any other threads in the religion forum and have never said anything against Christians.
I am not the poster who replied after my post identifying myself as German.

I can NOT believe how many hateful assumptions are being made here. The only thing I have said is instead of focusing on getting each other out of each others religions and trying to get each other into our own religions - why don't we all focus on being as good of a person as we can be and serve God the best we can? That's all I said. I find all the hate quite amusing...it sure doesn't yell "Good Christian" to me.

And just to clarify: I am German. I am catholic. I firmly believe in God - I do not believe in the Church as an institution. I live my life the way I think God wants me to live it. Not the way some church tells me to. And that's what I wish everyone else would do. Then there wouldn't be so much hate and arguing between all the different churches and we could all go back to just being good Christians.

Nope, you've out of line for quite some time. You've been snarky and disrespectful of several religions, even as you preen and pat yourself on the back about your "small c" catholicism. Also, your debating tactics are the pits: you consistently go straight for ad hominems (see your post above!) and you've blatently twisted what other posters said.

I don't have time to go back and collect a full inventory of your out of line snark (and several PPs besides me have agreed you're nasty) and your sleazy debating tactics, but here are a few things that come to mind. Ranting a few days ago about how the proliferation of US churches is "crazy" (your words) even as you boast above about creating your own version of Christianity (nonsensical, but whatever). Arguing that the Episcopal church has nothing more to offer than an annulment to Henry VII, as you ignore the posts about all the contemporary (Henry's time) debates about obeisance to Rome.

I frankly doubt you are who you say you are. Also, I too noticed the rude and snarky (just like you!) poster on the Older Chldren forum, lecturing to the rest of us about how Germany in your day allowed kids aged 16 to drink , just a few hours after you said were German here.

Grow up.

Thus Sayeth a Loving Christian

Meh, Christians are supposed to tell the truth. Telling the truth doesn't conflict with the commandment to turn the other cheek. And there's nothing unloving about collecting that German PP's own posts and holding them up to a mirror, so she can see the truth about how she's behaving.

Whatever that German poster's religion, it obviously doesn't include peace and love. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

And it hasn't happened this time either. There is just this one poster who feels the need to project her point of view on "everyone."

Actually, I'm a second poster who feels bad for OP's husband. I'm not Catholic and I'm not tempted to become Catholic - but OP's spite is pretty sad.

still not "everyone" and possibly not even a second poster, which only the moderator knows, by checking the unique IP address that accompanies each post.

You've GOT to be kidding. You really believe that only ONE poster finds you offensive?

That attitude fits right in on DCUM. Have you seen this? http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/0/5313719.page It was spot on.

Anonymous wrote:While your at it can you look at every post that disagrees with my point of view and confirm that it is the same person? Especially those that have to do with soap and dogs. Thanks!

Too many people here on DCUM have adopted the attitude that 99.9% of educated DC Metro residents (or Americans or humanity) thinks how I do, so if more than one posts disagrees, it must be one person +1ing themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

And it hasn't happened this time either. There is just this one poster who feels the need to project her point of view on "everyone."

Actually, I'm a second poster who feels bad for OP's husband. I'm not Catholic and I'm not tempted to become Catholic - but OP's spite is pretty sad.

still not "everyone" and possibly not even a second poster, which only the moderator knows, by checking the unique IP address that accompanies each post.

You've GOT to be kidding. You really believe that only ONE poster finds you offensive?

That attitude fits right in on DCUM. Have you seen this? http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/0/5313719.page It was spot on.

Anonymous wrote:While your at it can you look at every post that disagrees with my point of view and confirm that it is the same person? Especially those that have to do with soap and dogs. Thanks!

Too many people here on DCUM have adopted the attitude that 99.9% of educated DC Metro residents (or Americans or humanity) thinks how I do, so if more than one posts disagrees, it must be one person +1ing themselves.

Whooosh.....

That's the sound of the irony going right over your head. You obviously believe that it's impossible for more than one person to disagree with you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here again, and what this long thread illustrates is how divisive the Catholic Church and its teachings are. Yes, all churches have this to a degree, but in my church we are encouraged to seek God in our own way. There aren't a list of rules and regs that you MUST follow to be a good church member, so both my husband and I are comfortable being there and exposing our children to this environment.

Actually it seems that you have been able to bring together everyone in agreeing we feel bad for your poor husband.

Good job OP. That doesn't happen much here on DCUM.

And it hasn't happened this time either. There is just this one poster who feels the need to project her point of view on "everyone."

Actually, I'm a second poster who feels bad for OP's husband. I'm not Catholic and I'm not tempted to become Catholic - but OP's spite is pretty sad.

still not "everyone" and possibly not even a second poster, which only the moderator knows, by checking the unique IP address that accompanies each post.

You've GOT to be kidding. You really believe that only ONE poster finds you offensive?

That attitude fits right in on DCUM. Have you seen this? http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/0/5313719.page It was spot on.

Anonymous wrote:While your at it can you look at every post that disagrees with my point of view and confirm that it is the same person? Especially those that have to do with soap and dogs. Thanks!

Too many people here on DCUM have adopted the attitude that 99.9% of educated DC Metro residents (or Americans or humanity) thinks how I do, so if more than one posts disagrees, it must be one person +1ing themselves.

Whooosh.....

That's the sound of the irony going right over your head. You obviously believe that it's impossible for more than one person to disagree with you!

English wasn't your best course in school.

Try re-reading what was written in italics. Maybe aloud.

Also, check out the definition of irony. You don't know how to use the word correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow...people on DCUM are really way out of line. I haven't posted in this thread for a while now - I am the poster from Germany.

I am not an atheist.
I am not a Muslim.
I am not Jewish.
I have not posted in any other threads in the religion forum and have never said anything against Christians.
I am not the poster who replied after my post identifying myself as German.

I can NOT believe how many hateful assumptions are being made here. The only thing I have said is instead of focusing on getting each other out of each others religions and trying to get each other into our own religions - why don't we all focus on being as good of a person as we can be and serve God the best we can? That's all I said. I find all the hate quite amusing...it sure doesn't yell "Good Christian" to me.

And just to clarify: I am German. I am catholic. I firmly believe in God - I do not believe in the Church as an institution. I live my life the way I think God wants me to live it. Not the way some church tells me to. And that's what I wish everyone else would do. Then there wouldn't be so much hate and arguing between all the different churches and we could all go back to just being good Christians.

Nope, you've out of line for quite some time. You've been snarky and disrespectful of several religions, even as you preen and pat yourself on the back about your "small c" catholicism. Also, your debating tactics are the pits: you consistently go straight for ad hominems (see your post above!) and you've blatently twisted what other posters said.

I don't have time to go back and collect a full inventory of your out of line snark (and several PPs besides me have agreed you're nasty) and your sleazy debating tactics, but here are a few things that come to mind. Ranting a few days ago about how the proliferation of US churches is "crazy" (your words) even as you boast above about creating your own version of Christianity (nonsensical, but whatever). Arguing that the Episcopal church has nothing more to offer than an annulment to Henry VII, as you ignore the posts about all the contemporary (Henry's time) debates about obeisance to Rome.

I frankly doubt you are who you say you are. Also, I too noticed the rude and snarky (just like you!) poster on the Older Chldren forum, lecturing to the rest of us about how Germany in your day allowed kids aged 16 to drink , just a few hours after you said were German here.

Grow up.

Thus Sayeth a Loving Christian

not pp. Eh, being Christian doesn't mean we don't struggle to love our fellow man, you know.