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I would say hi. And I would say hi to the three year old. If you time to think of where the person is, developmentally, I think you say hi. Your desire for a quiet breakfast and or privacy does not trump the fact we live in a society. All the kid did was say hi. |
Just because I want to spend time with MY family not engaging with YOUR family of perfect strangers I'm a grump?? Get over yourself. |
Yes, you're a grump. You don't live alone. You are part of community, and when someone walks beside you, you make room for them. |
Yes, but eventually YOUR family will be the one causing the ruckus. If it be an crazy uncle, a 3 year old, etc. And then you can get of your high horse and we can all point at you and say "SHUT YOUR KID UP" - no we'll smile and allow you to rejoin society. For now, we'll just let you live in your glass house. |
Yes and when it is my family causing the ruckus (I have 3 and 5 yo fwiw) I expect society to tell my kids to shut up! You people love to recite "it takes a village" except when it comes to anything negative. Is it a DC thing that so many parents think that the couple was out of line and needed to be reprimanded for making their darling 3 yo cry? It wasn't like they slapped him! Where I grew up (which wasn't here) when my children annoyed someone in a restaurant to a point of shooshing him, I would apologize to the couple and tell my child that he was bothering people and he would have one more chance to behave or we'd leave. |
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Where is all your anger coming from?
Why not provide useful advise, thoughts without the vitriol? |
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OP, it is all relative to the amount of noise in the venue. If the place is quiet (ie: movie) it is reasonable for the paying patrons to expect your child to adhere to social norms. If the place is not so quiet, then act accordingly or more quiet.
I have been next to a squealer before in a medium to high priced restaurant (say $$$-$$$$) and the it was obvious the piercing noise went straight through (in a painful manner) patrons. Of course, the parents thought it was the "cutest" thing. Everyone else, not so much. Majority ruled and the manager came out to talk to the moms at the table who thought it was "cute". They were either extremely self righteous or their culture dictated that the boy child did no wrong. It could have been both. They left shortly afterward, so apparently the manager was as diplomatic to the moms at the table as the moms would have been to the kid. That said, I really think there is a reasonable amount of noise and then there is "over the top, but the moms won't admit it". D.C. is famous for trying to feign ignorance. Not many do it well. I would err on the side of courtesy, even if it is not keeping with the entitled D.C. mindset. |
No, you get over YOURself. Saying "hi" is not spending time on others or "engaging" perfect strangers. It is a greeting. Perhaps a repeated interference would warrant a "shoosh" or a (kind) comment to the child. But, a single loud "hi"? Give me a #$%$# break will you? Sounds like you are the one that needs to retreat to his/her bubble and stay there. Lest your delicate sensitivities be offended by the developmentally appropriate inquiries of a child. For god's sake! What the fuck is wrong with some of you people? |
Just . . . wow . . . |
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"Yes and when it is my family causing the ruckus (I have 3 and 5 yo fwiw) I expect society to tell my kids to shut up!"
I profoundly doubt that you would be OK with me telling your kid to shut up, especially if we disagree over what is an appropriate level of "ruckus" to be tolerated at the place that we're at. And if the point is to teach your kid manners, certainly, I, as a fellow villager, would not lead by example and make a rude comment to your child. |
You lose 1/4 point. Your answer did not contribute to the conversation. And I wasted time reading it. |
| This is OP. Let's put this to bed. This is not going well. I will never convince some of you that my child was not that bad, and you will never convince me that it's appropriate to be mean to a three year old in the circumstances that we were in. Let's hope that without the anonymity of this board, we are all much nicer people than we came off as today (myself included). Good night. |
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I am not elderly or suffering fron "senioritis" but I was taken out to reataurants when a child and I learned how to behave and I taught my children how to behave in public. It is infuriating when someone's kid is screaming, running around, and parents do absolutely nothing to stop them. I don;t want to hear your kids scream in IHOP, McDonalds, or any other place. If you think their screaming is cute and funny let them do it in your car or in your home. You and your ill-behaved children do not have the right to ruin other people's enjoyment of their dinner. "Kid friendly" does not mean screaming, yelling, kicking, teach them some manners. I don't bothr "shoosing" them, I speak diretly to the parents and if thit doesn't work, I speak to a manager. This always works and, unfortunately, it is also embarrasing for many parents. I have seen a few huff and puff and leave and there was one case when all those around them applauded. |
joyful! Simply a delightful lady. If you actually read the thread, at no point did this boy scream and run around without his parents doing anything. But don't let that get in the way of your self righteousness. |