If you don't want sex, then shouldn't YOU be the one to leave and divorce?

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Anonymous wrote:Woman here who has little desire after FT work, kids, stress and hormonal issues. My dh grumbles and if he cheated I wouldn’t want to know about it. Marriage is a long haul. I expect there will be times I have more desire and dh has less. Actually now he has ED issues at times. Would I divorce him over that? No way. Marriage is a long term partnership. People posting on here to divorce over this are trashy.


The bolded is trashy too.


Nope. It’s how the world used to work and I’m fine with it as long as it’s very rare and doesn’t interrupt my life. Marriage is not story book. Two people can’t be every single thing to each other for 50+ years. I’m grown up enough to understand that.


Interesting that you are grown up enough to accept what works for you as maturity but not grown enough to realize that what works for others is not trashy just because it does not work for you. Grow up some more.
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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids.

The idea that these women had an obligation to go "fix" their libidos medically (fix how? there is no equivalent for the boner pill for women) is laughable to me. These women are so busy. They are so tired. They have so much on their plate -- kids, work, elder care, the myriad of minor health issues that often come with peri menopause. They don't have much sex drive anymore. The idea that they should *prioritize* their sex drive over all the other stuff they have to take care of so that their spouse, who pretty much never pulls his weight with the kids or the house or other responsibilities, is just laughable to me.

If you want your wife to have a high libido well into middle age, here's my advice: have a lot of money, outsource all the drudgery of housework and childcare, make sure she gets tons of downtime for herself, go on vacation a lot, don't pressure her about having more kids. Make life as carefree and enjoyable as possible. Then, if her libido still disappears, I feel you'd be justified in suggesting she should see a doctor and try to address that.

If you have the standard 40-something-with-kids-and-a-mortgage life, and your wife either works FT or is a SAHM will no additional help, you cannot ask this of her. She has too much to do. You will need to take care of your own boners.

Stop being such a baby. Fulfill your marital obligations like you are fulfilling other responsibilities.


Well, if her spouse fulfilled his marital obligations , she'd be more likely to fulfill hers.


So glad to finally see an admission that is has nothing to do with the libido or hormones and that it's all about this dumb tit for tat.


So glad to see that you are stupid. Women's libido is tied to emotional stress. If she is not feeling understood and cared for, sge is less likely to get wet, dummy.

Her feeling could have nothing to do with reality
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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids.

The idea that these women had an obligation to go "fix" their libidos medically (fix how? there is no equivalent for the boner pill for women) is laughable to me. These women are so busy. They are so tired. They have so much on their plate -- kids, work, elder care, the myriad of minor health issues that often come with peri menopause. They don't have much sex drive anymore. The idea that they should *prioritize* their sex drive over all the other stuff they have to take care of so that their spouse, who pretty much never pulls his weight with the kids or the house or other responsibilities, is just laughable to me.

If you want your wife to have a high libido well into middle age, here's my advice: have a lot of money, outsource all the drudgery of housework and childcare, make sure she gets tons of downtime for herself, go on vacation a lot, don't pressure her about having more kids. Make life as carefree and enjoyable as possible. Then, if her libido still disappears, I feel you'd be justified in suggesting she should see a doctor and try to address that.

If you have the standard 40-something-with-kids-and-a-mortgage life, and your wife either works FT or is a SAHM will no additional help, you cannot ask this of her. She has too much to do. You will need to take care of your own boners.

Stop being such a baby. Fulfill your marital obligations like you are fulfilling other responsibilities.


Well, if her spouse fulfilled his marital obligations , she'd be more likely to fulfill hers.


So glad to finally see an admission that is has nothing to do with the libido or hormones and that it's all about this dumb tit for tat.


So glad to see that you are stupid. Women's libido is tied to emotional stress. If she is not feeling understood and cared for, sge is less likely to get wet, dummy.


Oh honey, I'm a 47 year old woman. I know all too well about hormonal changes and stress. I just don't use them as an excuse to mistreat the person I married.


And I know all too well about pick mes and idiots who lack empathy.


Empathy for what? You already admitted you do it out of spite. Your dumb word salad is not holding up your lies very well.


It's only a word salad because you are obsessed with sex.

So in your disordered brain, a woman with a high libido who likes sex with her husband would somehow decide to spite him by not having sex with him? Go to therapy and cure yourself from your obsession with sex. Then come back and think about it again.
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Anonymous wrote:Marriage is more than just sex.


Of course, marriage is about more than sex. So if your DH said to you, "I love you and want to stay married, but sex is very important to me. Since you decided it's no longer something you want to do, I'm going to find someone to satisfy me sexually outside of our marriage." That would be totally ok with you, right?


If my spouse told me he wanted to have sex with people outside our marriage, I would tell him that wasn't okay with him, but if that's what he really wanted, then we could get divorced.

Look, if you are unhappy with your sex life in your marriage, you have three options:
(1) Divorce
(2) Discuss opening the marriage with your spouse, and do that if you both agree
(3) Accept it

These might fee like inadequate solutions, I get it. But those are really the only ethical options. Some of you seem to think there are additional options, but sorry, these just aren't ethical. These are:

(4) Cheat
(5) Somehow force your partner to have sex with you?? I never understand this.

The rest of us are never going to condone 4-5, sorry. 1-3 are all fine with me, do whatever makes the most sense for you.


Did you even read what I wrote? Asking your spouse to open up the marriage is one of your solutions, yet somehow, you'd divorce over it. Make it make sense.


What you described wasn't asking. It was dictating. If your spouse doesn't agree to it, you have to get divorced or accept the sexless marriage. You can't force your spouse to accept you sleeping with other people. That's not one of the options.


It's true that you can't force a spouse to agree to opening the marriage, but, somehow, cheaters have an entire imaginary conversation in their brains where their spouse rejects the "open the marriage" request - without every actually speaking those words out loud and negotiating with their spouses. That's because cheaters don't want to negotiate, they want to control and manipulate and exert their power (marital power to demand sex, that they imagine they have) and punish (for rejection of their power).

If you want to be ethical, ask the question about opening the marriage explicitly and be willing to renegotiate the terms of the marriage in a written post-nuptial agreement.
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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids.

The idea that these women had an obligation to go "fix" their libidos medically (fix how? there is no equivalent for the boner pill for women) is laughable to me. These women are so busy. They are so tired. They have so much on their plate -- kids, work, elder care, the myriad of minor health issues that often come with peri menopause. They don't have much sex drive anymore. The idea that they should *prioritize* their sex drive over all the other stuff they have to take care of so that their spouse, who pretty much never pulls his weight with the kids or the house or other responsibilities, is just laughable to me.

If you want your wife to have a high libido well into middle age, here's my advice: have a lot of money, outsource all the drudgery of housework and childcare, make sure she gets tons of downtime for herself, go on vacation a lot, don't pressure her about having more kids. Make life as carefree and enjoyable as possible. Then, if her libido still disappears, I feel you'd be justified in suggesting she should see a doctor and try to address that.

If you have the standard 40-something-with-kids-and-a-mortgage life, and your wife either works FT or is a SAHM will no additional help, you cannot ask this of her. She has too much to do. You will need to take care of your own boners.


Stereotypical and wrong. I'm the wife in that life and I'm the one who is sex deprived.


So? Your marriage is not every marriage. The comment you're replying to clearly prefaced it with "I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids." If that's not you, then of course the things in the post won't make sense for your marriage.

However it is more common for women to lose libido at midlife before men do. Partly due to biology and partly because women tend to store less of their identity in their sexuality, especially after having kids. Doesn't mean it never happens the other way, but it's definitely more rare. Sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason.


You might be on to something with your comment about identity. I am highy sexual and yeah that's a big part of my identity. My happiest years were when I was dating in my 20s. I love my kids but it's just different. Certainly explains why there are so many unhappily married men whose wives need a full court press to even feel any desire. Pity for both spouses.


Even if sex is not a big part of your identity, it's hard to ignore the lack of it when you are horny 24/7. Perhaps this is why some people with high libido find it harder to get over that resentment.

If the house is dirty, you can escape to a hotel and take a break for a few days. But you cannot cut your nether regions and throw away for a couple of days . So anytime you feel the itch, it reminds you of the spouse who should be scratching the spot 😆



If you are over the age of 45 and you are "horny 24/7" (and it's not a temporary thing maybe due to a hormone imbalance) then sex is a HUGE part of your identity.

I'm 46, DH is 49, and I think about sex maybe once a week. If it coincides with my DH thinking about sex, we have sex. Some weeks we don't have sex and we both seem fine with that. We initiate sex about equally -- he initiates more on weekdays, I initiate more on weekends, and that has to do with slightly different arousal patterns. We have sex maybe twice a month.

If one of us was actually horny 24/7, we'd both be in hell. It just wouldn't work. If he was that horny, I'd have to have a real think about it because I don't want to get divorced (I love him, we have a great life together, our kids are wonderful and we'd both prefer to raise them in a 2-parent household) and I'm uncomfortable with the idea of him having sex with someone else (as much because of the time and energy it would result in him channeling elsewhere as the idea of it being a violation of marital vows -- we are both busy and neither of us needs a new project, much less an affair). I don't know what I'd do. I'm glad I"m not in that situation.

I do think past a certain age, if you are that horny, you can't view your spouse's inability to satisfy you as their problem. It's just not reasonable. If you are young and you both went into the marriage with the expectation of very frequent sex, that's different. But late 40s and up, with kids? I think being that horny makes you an outlier. Maybe I'm just delusional about how other people work or maybe everyone I know is just surpassing their sex drive all the time, but I don't see it. People are tired, busy, stressed about kids and politics. But super, super horny? I don't see it.
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Anonymous wrote:But I’m sure he’s obligated to open his wallet for you, right ladies?


Most women who aren’t having sex can take care of themselves and don’t need the money that’s why they couldn’t care less

Feminism has destroyed civil society


No, it's destroyed mens' ability to keep women trapped in unsatisfactory marriages. Corrected it for ya

Divorce rate has gone up due to women’s unhinged emotions
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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids.

The idea that these women had an obligation to go "fix" their libidos medically (fix how? there is no equivalent for the boner pill for women) is laughable to me. These women are so busy. They are so tired. They have so much on their plate -- kids, work, elder care, the myriad of minor health issues that often come with peri menopause. They don't have much sex drive anymore. The idea that they should *prioritize* their sex drive over all the other stuff they have to take care of so that their spouse, who pretty much never pulls his weight with the kids or the house or other responsibilities, is just laughable to me.

If you want your wife to have a high libido well into middle age, here's my advice: have a lot of money, outsource all the drudgery of housework and childcare, make sure she gets tons of downtime for herself, go on vacation a lot, don't pressure her about having more kids. Make life as carefree and enjoyable as possible. Then, if her libido still disappears, I feel you'd be justified in suggesting she should see a doctor and try to address that.

If you have the standard 40-something-with-kids-and-a-mortgage life, and your wife either works FT or is a SAHM will no additional help, you cannot ask this of her. She has too much to do. You will need to take care of your own boners.

Stop being such a baby. Fulfill your marital obligations like you are fulfilling other responsibilities.


Well, if her spouse fulfilled his marital obligations , she'd be more likely to fulfill hers.


So glad to finally see an admission that is has nothing to do with the libido or hormones and that it's all about this dumb tit for tat.


So glad to see that you are stupid. Women's libido is tied to emotional stress. If she is not feeling understood and cared for, sge is less likely to get wet, dummy.

Her feeling could have nothing to do with reality


True. But such is life. Thank goodness there are other options, such as divorce, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Marriage is more than just sex.


Of course, marriage is about more than sex. So if your DH said to you, "I love you and want to stay married, but sex is very important to me. Since you decided it's no longer something you want to do, I'm going to find someone to satisfy me sexually outside of our marriage." That would be totally ok with you, right?


If my spouse told me he wanted to have sex with people outside our marriage, I would tell him that wasn't okay with him, but if that's what he really wanted, then we could get divorced.

Look, if you are unhappy with your sex life in your marriage, you have three options:
(1) Divorce
(2) Discuss opening the marriage with your spouse, and do that if you both agree
(3) Accept it

These might fee like inadequate solutions, I get it. But those are really the only ethical options. Some of you seem to think there are additional options, but sorry, these just aren't ethical. These are:

(4) Cheat
(5) Somehow force your partner to have sex with you?? I never understand this.

The rest of us are never going to condone 4-5, sorry. 1-3 are all fine with me, do whatever makes the most sense for you.


Did you even read what I wrote? Asking your spouse to open up the marriage is one of your solutions, yet somehow, you'd divorce over it. Make it make sense.


What you described wasn't asking. It was dictating. If your spouse doesn't agree to it, you have to get divorced or accept the sexless marriage. You can't force your spouse to accept you sleeping with other people. That's not one of the options.


It's true that you can't force a spouse to agree to opening the marriage, but, somehow, cheaters have an entire imaginary conversation in their brains where their spouse rejects the "open the marriage" request - without every actually speaking those words out loud and negotiating with their spouses. That's because cheaters don't want to negotiate, they want to control and manipulate and exert their power (marital power to demand sex, that they imagine they have) and punish (for rejection of their power).

If you want to be ethical, ask the question about opening the marriage explicitly and be willing to renegotiate the terms of the marriage in a written post-nuptial agreement.


This is so true. People assume their spouse will say no, get mad in advance for this hypothetical discussion they didn't have, and then decide they "deserve" to cheat.

If you can't have a frank conversation with your spouse about your sexual needs, the problem is your immaturity, not their lack of libido.
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Anonymous wrote:But I’m sure he’s obligated to open his wallet for you, right ladies?


Most women who aren’t having sex can take care of themselves and don’t need the money that’s why they couldn’t care less

Feminism has destroyed civil society


No, it's destroyed mens' ability to keep women trapped in unsatisfactory marriages. Corrected it for ya

Divorce rate has gone up due to women’s unhinged emotions


Ok, sure. Why do you want to be married to one of these women with "unhinged emotions" in the first place? So your dream is to be married to a woman who you think is crazy, but she is not allowed to divorce you, and also you can force her to have sex with you against her will?

Hmmm. Count me in for feminism! That sounds like a bad deal for me, a woman I'm certain you would describe as "unhinged".
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Anonymous wrote:Marriage is more than just sex.


Of course, marriage is about more than sex. So if your DH said to you, "I love you and want to stay married, but sex is very important to me. Since you decided it's no longer something you want to do, I'm going to find someone to satisfy me sexually outside of our marriage." That would be totally ok with you, right?


If my spouse told me he wanted to have sex with people outside our marriage, I would tell him that wasn't okay with him, but if that's what he really wanted, then we could get divorced.

Look, if you are unhappy with your sex life in your marriage, you have three options:
(1) Divorce
(2) Discuss opening the marriage with your spouse, and do that if you both agree
(3) Accept it

These might fee like inadequate solutions, I get it. But those are really the only ethical options. Some of you seem to think there are additional options, but sorry, these just aren't ethical. These are:

(4) Cheat
(5) Somehow force your partner to have sex with you?? I never understand this.

The rest of us are never going to condone 4-5, sorry. 1-3 are all fine with me, do whatever makes the most sense for you.


Did you even read what I wrote? Asking your spouse to open up the marriage is one of your solutions, yet somehow, you'd divorce over it. Make it make sense.


What you described wasn't asking. It was dictating. If your spouse doesn't agree to it, you have to get divorced or accept the sexless marriage. You can't force your spouse to accept you sleeping with other people. That's not one of the options.


And what is it called if one spouse unilaterally decides to stop having sex?



Oh my god this has been explained multiple times.

The marriage vows don't include a vow to have sex with each other forever even if one person doesn't want to and it's physically painful or upsetting to them.

Marriage vows do generally include a provision to be faithful to one another.

So the person deciding not to have sex anymore is exercising normal agency over their body, but the person choosing to have sex with people outside the marriage without the consent of their spouse is cheating. Both acts might feel hurtful and might lead to divorce, but only one is unethical and a breach of marriage vows.


There is absolutely nothing unethical about expressing to your spouse, who decided unilaterally that sex is off the table, that sex is important to you and that you are not ok with never having sex again. There is something morally repugnant and very unethical about making that decision for someone else 20 years down the road and expecting them to just comply because sex is not important to you. No one is talking about forcing you to have sex. No normal human being wants to have sex with another person who is not into it. Just like you shouldn't be forced to have sex, a person in a normal, healthy marriage shouldn't be FORCED to be celibate by staying married to you.


FILE FOR DiVORCE. No one is forcing anyone to stay married. How can someone making a de cision not to have sex with you be making the decision for your body? They are making it for theirs. If you don't like it, you have the right to divorce them.


OMG you can't be this stupid. OF COURSE ONE CAN FILE FOR DIVORCE!!! See I can yell too.

The point is your hypocrisy. You said there is more to marriage than sex, but apparently, for you, there isn't if you are quick to divorce over your husband having sex with someone else.


You are arguing with multiple PPs. I think marriage is more than sex. But if someone ever suggested that I was forcing them to not have sex because I did not want to sleep with them, I'd tell them to go eff themselves.


If you expect them to stay married to you and not have sex with anyone else, you are absolutely forcing them. I guess you'd rather be divorced which is fine. Just don't tell me how there is more to marrige than sex, then.


I'm not sure what planet you live on, but on Planet Earth, a one person's expectation of another person does not equate to force. Just because your partner expects you to stay married even though your partner refuses to have sex with you doesn't mean you are being forced to stay married. We live in a no fault divorce world (although some Republicans would like to change that); you can file for divorce and leave a marriage whenever you want for whatever reason or for no reason at all.

No one is holding you hostage in your home, I hope! You could walk out the door any day and end the marriage.
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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids.

The idea that these women had an obligation to go "fix" their libidos medically (fix how? there is no equivalent for the boner pill for women) is laughable to me. These women are so busy. They are so tired. They have so much on their plate -- kids, work, elder care, the myriad of minor health issues that often come with peri menopause. They don't have much sex drive anymore. The idea that they should *prioritize* their sex drive over all the other stuff they have to take care of so that their spouse, who pretty much never pulls his weight with the kids or the house or other responsibilities, is just laughable to me.

If you want your wife to have a high libido well into middle age, here's my advice: have a lot of money, outsource all the drudgery of housework and childcare, make sure she gets tons of downtime for herself, go on vacation a lot, don't pressure her about having more kids. Make life as carefree and enjoyable as possible. Then, if her libido still disappears, I feel you'd be justified in suggesting she should see a doctor and try to address that.

If you have the standard 40-something-with-kids-and-a-mortgage life, and your wife either works FT or is a SAHM will no additional help, you cannot ask this of her. She has too much to do. You will need to take care of your own boners.

Stop being such a baby. Fulfill your marital obligations like you are fulfilling other responsibilities.


Well, if her spouse fulfilled his marital obligations , she'd be more likely to fulfill hers.


So glad to finally see an admission that is has nothing to do with the libido or hormones and that it's all about this dumb tit for tat.


So glad to see that you are stupid. Women's libido is tied to emotional stress. If she is not feeling understood and cared for, sge is less likely to get wet, dummy.


Oh honey, I'm a 47 year old woman. I know all too well about hormonal changes and stress. I just don't use them as an excuse to mistreat the person I married.


And I know all too well about pick mes and idiots who lack empathy.


Empathy for what? You already admitted you do it out of spite. Your dumb word salad is not holding up your lies very well.


It's only a word salad because you are obsessed with sex.

So in your disordered brain, a woman with a high libido who likes sex with her husband would somehow decide to spite him by not having sex with him? Go to therapy and cure yourself from your obsession with sex. Then come back and think about it again.


I always know when I've gotten to people like you when they launch into these baseless, made up rants, yet invoke therapy for me. You sound positively miserable.
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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of women who lost libido in their 40s, after kids.

The idea that these women had an obligation to go "fix" their libidos medically (fix how? there is no equivalent for the boner pill for women) is laughable to me. These women are so busy. They are so tired. They have so much on their plate -- kids, work, elder care, the myriad of minor health issues that often come with peri menopause. They don't have much sex drive anymore. The idea that they should *prioritize* their sex drive over all the other stuff they have to take care of so that their spouse, who pretty much never pulls his weight with the kids or the house or other responsibilities, is just laughable to me.

If you want your wife to have a high libido well into middle age, here's my advice: have a lot of money, outsource all the drudgery of housework and childcare, make sure she gets tons of downtime for herself, go on vacation a lot, don't pressure her about having more kids. Make life as carefree and enjoyable as possible. Then, if her libido still disappears, I feel you'd be justified in suggesting she should see a doctor and try to address that.

If you have the standard 40-something-with-kids-and-a-mortgage life, and your wife either works FT or is a SAHM will no additional help, you cannot ask this of her. She has too much to do. You will need to take care of your own boners.

Stop being such a baby. Fulfill your marital obligations like you are fulfilling other responsibilities.


Well, if her spouse fulfilled his marital obligations , she'd be more likely to fulfill hers.


So glad to finally see an admission that is has nothing to do with the libido or hormones and that it's all about this dumb tit for tat.


So glad to see that you are stupid. Women's libido is tied to emotional stress. If she is not feeling understood and cared for, sge is less likely to get wet, dummy.

Her feeling could have nothing to do with reality


True. But such is life. Thank goodness there are other options, such as divorce, right?

Just because you have option to do something doesn’t make it a good thing. Are you thankful that people have options to cheat?
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Anonymous wrote:But I’m sure he’s obligated to open his wallet for you, right ladies?


Most women who aren’t having sex can take care of themselves and don’t need the money that’s why they couldn’t care less

Feminism has destroyed civil society


No, it's destroyed mens' ability to keep women trapped in unsatisfactory marriages. Corrected it for ya

Divorce rate has gone up due to women’s unhinged emotions


Well at least we've solved the mystery of why YOU are not having sex.
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Anonymous wrote:But I’m sure he’s obligated to open his wallet for you, right ladies?


Most women who aren’t having sex can take care of themselves and don’t need the money that’s why they couldn’t care less

Feminism has destroyed civil society


No, it's destroyed mens' ability to keep women trapped in unsatisfactory marriages. Corrected it for ya

Divorce rate has gone up due to women’s
unhinged emotions


The divorce rate is at a 50-year low.
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Anonymous wrote:But I’m sure he’s obligated to open his wallet for you, right ladies?


Most women who aren’t having sex can take care of themselves and don’t need the money that’s why they couldn’t care less

Feminism has destroyed civil society


No, it's destroyed mens' ability to keep women trapped in unsatisfactory marriages. Corrected it for ya

Divorce rate has gone up due to women’s unhinged emotions


Well at least we've solved the mystery of why YOU are not having sex.

Lol, what are u talking about? I pound my wife whenever I want
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