Abigail Spanberger

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


That's some amazing deflection. Can you answer the PP's question?
DP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


+1
Absolute crazy town. I certainly didn't expect this.


I’m SHOCKED I say, SHOCKED. I mean, she’s a “moderate!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrat Abigail Spanberger has been sworn into office as Virginia’s FIRST female governor. Spanberger was sworn in at noon Saturday outside the state Capitol.

Take that, Mags.


So you're on board with House Bill 863 to eliminate minimum sentencing for manslaughter, rape, possession and distribution of child pornography and removing the mandatory five-day minimum sentence for first-time DUI offenders? Because I'm not. I'm also not on board with raising taxes when we have had a surplus for years. And yes I did indeed vote for her but I do not support these actions.

I don't think people know what they want here one minute people are on here complaining about crime and the next minute minute supporting bills like this.



+1,000
The reflexive, knee-jerk defense of this is so telling. No one will state why the bolded is somehow a "good idea" - because they know it's horrible and makes no sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


Explain it to me then. Why do the democrats want to eliminate minimum sentences for these horrible crimes?


Hmmmm
...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


Explain it to me then. Why do the democrats want to eliminate minimum sentences for these horrible crimes?


Hmmmm
...


It is about allowing judicial flexibility and power to sentence based on individual circumstances, reducing the costs and effects of long term incarceration, and revising the power DAs have---a good portion of people never end up getting the minimum sentence because DAs will use that thread to plea criminal out to lesser charges.

SO overall, the idea is that minimum sentencing just hasn't worked as a policy and all the data shows that. All of it.

Agree or disagree, but don't act like people opposed to minimum sentences love criminals and are soft on crime. It is a dishonest take and makes you look unable to actually have a useful policy debate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


Explain it to me then. Why do the democrats want to eliminate minimum sentences for these horrible crimes?


Hmmmm
...


It is about allowing judicial flexibility and power to sentence based on individual circumstances, reducing the costs and effects of long term incarceration, and revising the power DAs have---a good portion of people never end up getting the minimum sentence because DAs will use that thread to plea criminal out to lesser charges.

SO overall, the idea is that minimum sentencing just hasn't worked as a policy and all the data shows that. All of it.

Agree or disagree, but don't act like people opposed to minimum sentences love criminals and are soft on crime. It is a dishonest take and makes you look unable to actually have a useful policy debate.

It might be decent policy but it’s horrible optics. A perfect example of Democrats feeding propaganda opportunities to Fox News. This is the kind of second-priority legislation you do after you’ve done something popular around affordability, jobs, or housing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


Explain it to me then. Why do the democrats want to eliminate minimum sentences for these horrible crimes?


Hmmmm
...


It is about allowing judicial flexibility and power to sentence based on individual circumstances, reducing the costs and effects of long term incarceration, and revising the power DAs have---a good portion of people never end up getting the minimum sentence because DAs will use that thread to plea criminal out to lesser charges.

SO overall, the idea is that minimum sentencing just hasn't worked as a policy and all the data shows that. All of it.

Agree or disagree, but don't act like people opposed to minimum sentences love criminals and are soft on crime. It is a dishonest take and makes you look unable to actually have a useful policy debate.

It might be decent policy but it’s horrible optics. A perfect example of Democrats feeding propaganda opportunities to Fox News. This is the kind of second-priority legislation you do after you’ve done something popular around affordability, jobs, or housing.

That I can agree on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


Explain it to me then. Why do the democrats want to eliminate minimum sentences for these horrible crimes?


Hmmmm
...


It is about allowing judicial flexibility and power to sentence based on individual circumstances, reducing the costs and effects of long term incarceration, and revising the power DAs have---a good portion of people never end up getting the minimum sentence because DAs will use that thread to plea criminal out to lesser charges.

SO overall, the idea is that minimum sentencing just hasn't worked as a policy and all the data shows that. All of it.

Agree or disagree, but don't act like people opposed to minimum sentences love criminals and are soft on crime. It is a dishonest take and makes you look unable to actually have a useful policy debate.

It might be decent policy but it’s horrible optics. A perfect example of Democrats feeding propaganda opportunities to Fox News. This is the kind of second-priority legislation you do after you’ve done something popular around affordability, jobs, or housing.


Why do you think this is the only bill being proposed?

Why are you propagating the propaganda?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the kind of second-priority legislation you do after you’ve done something popular around affordability, jobs, or housing.


Like all the new taxes? That seems like the first priority.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the kind of second-priority legislation you do after you’ve done something popular around affordability, jobs, or housing.


Like all the new taxes? That seems like the first priority.


I think it's necessary to drive the wealthy out of Virginia so the legislature can get around to taxing the middle class.
Anonymous
Why are they proposing all these new taxes? I thought Va had a surplus?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the kind of second-priority legislation you do after you’ve done something popular around affordability, jobs, or housing.


Like all the new taxes? That seems like the first priority.


I think it's necessary to drive the wealthy out of Virginia so the legislature can get around to taxing the middle class.


It will drive out the Republicans who don’t like public services.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there bills to eliminate minimum sentencing for rape, murder and child porn? Why is this first day priorities for VA democrats?


Now do the list of “first day priorities” for state Republicans, too.

Your histrionics are so boring. And they make you sound like you fundamentally don’t understand how government works. I get that you are just trying to be a bad-faith, provocative jerk, but you only manage to come off looking like you just fell off the turnip truck.


Explain it to me then. Why do the democrats want to eliminate minimum sentences for these horrible crimes?


Hmmmm
...


It is about allowing judicial flexibility and power to sentence based on individual circumstances, reducing the costs and effects of long term incarceration, and revising the power DAs have---a good portion of people never end up getting the minimum sentence because DAs will use that thread to plea criminal out to lesser charges.

SO overall, the idea is that minimum sentencing just hasn't worked as a policy and all the data shows that. All of it.

Agree or disagree, but don't act like people opposed to minimum sentences love criminals and are soft on crime. It is a dishonest take and makes you look unable to actually have a useful policy debate.


This is word salad but you know that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why are they proposing all these new taxes? I thought Va had a surplus?


VA does have a surplus.

Make it make sense. My take is she has a lot more freebies she would like to hand out to some people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are they proposing all these new taxes? I thought Va had a surplus?


VA does have a surplus.

Make it make sense. My take is she has a lot more freebies she would like to hand out to some people.


Hopefully she’s planning to put more money into our schools.

VA has notoriously UNDERfunded schools for decades. As a way to rebel against segregation.


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